lol @ having this fight *again*
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 11 July 2019 21:56 (four years ago) link
I like the song w ne yo but the albums are pretty mediocre after pretty Tony imo & it’s obvious they’re his most “critically adored” bc ppl were jumping on the bandwagon late. Lol @ you acting like “critically adored” and “white hipsters liked them” not being the same phenomenon
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Thursday, 11 July 2019 22:17 (four years ago) link
Also blatantly untrue ... supreme clientele is obv his most praised album ...
That's why I said "one of"
― space invaders are smokin penises!!!! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 11 July 2019 22:21 (four years ago) link
or "Two of"
― space invaders are smokin penises!!!! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 11 July 2019 22:22 (four years ago) link
I mean, the bandwagon theory would make sense if Bulletproof Wallets and Iron Flag didn't happen and also if the Fish/Fish/Doe run sounded anything like Ironman/Clientele
― space invaders are smokin penises!!!! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 11 July 2019 22:24 (four years ago) link
worsened: beach boys
― flopson, Thursday, 11 July 2019 22:24 (four years ago) link
As far as underrated ghost albums the two hidden darts tapes are better than fishscale era stuff too me
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Thursday, 11 July 2019 22:25 (four years ago) link
The fish era sounds like pandering to online rap nerds that’s why the cohesion of pretty Tony singing along to oldies radio steez was replaced soul records, dilla records and Pete rock beats it’s way more scattershot & broke him w the mass of Av club rap nerds but it’s def not the first thing I’m gonna pull out to listen to
The ne yo song does sound like it should have been the single for “pretty tony” which is why I like it but the whip me w. A strap stuff I just never want to listen to
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Thursday, 11 July 2019 22:28 (four years ago) link
i've always felt deej underrated fishscale contrarianistically to some degree, but it's also extremely funny how mad it makes whiney
― flopson, Thursday, 11 July 2019 22:31 (four years ago) link
at this point I expect them to be having this fight over cold bowls of mush at the old folks' home 20 years from now
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 11 July 2019 22:32 (four years ago) link
if deej had just said the last 12 years he'd be in the clear
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Thursday, 11 July 2019 22:34 (four years ago) link
You absolute fucking dork
lol this fucking guy
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 11 July 2019 23:02 (four years ago) link
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I mean cmon lolol
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 11 July 2019 23:04 (four years ago) link
cuet
― space invaders are smokin penises!!!! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 11 July 2019 23:11 (four years ago) link
i know emo was mentioned upthread but it is legitimately surprising to me that a decent amount of young people listen to the 20 year old american football album i liked when i was 16
― bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 11 July 2019 23:13 (four years ago) link
Listened to it this morning and the emo revival has mostly passed me by. Sometimes you just wanna bathe in chiming guitars, y’know?
― mott the hoopleheads (voodoo chili), Thursday, 11 July 2019 23:15 (four years ago) link
It's Complicated: Weezer
― MarkoP, Friday, 12 July 2019 00:44 (four years ago) link
Elephant 6 stocks continue to plummet. Even ITAOTS is seeming more like a punchline than a universally beloved classic.
― triggercut, Friday, 12 July 2019 03:13 (four years ago) link
I still think In the Aeroplane Over the Sea is an absolute classic for all time
― Dan S, Friday, 12 July 2019 03:25 (four years ago) link
also will love forever Olivia Tremor Control's 'Dusk at Cubist Castle' and 'Black Foliage'
― Dan S, Friday, 12 July 2019 03:40 (four years ago) link
idk NMH had a very well received reunion tour five years ago
― ufo, Friday, 12 July 2019 03:43 (four years ago) link
NMH evergreen
― flappy bird, Friday, 12 July 2019 04:48 (four years ago) link
I already said this but SONIC YOUTH!
― flappy bird, Friday, 12 July 2019 04:49 (four years ago) link
has gone way down
― ufo, Thursday, July 11, 2019 11:43 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
was it that recent? I saw them probably 10 years ago now
― k3vin k., Friday, 12 July 2019 04:51 (four years ago) link
the full band reunion was 2013/14, with the Mangum solo shows before that from 2011-13
― ufo, Friday, 12 July 2019 04:58 (four years ago) link
obviously they're nowhere near as a big of an influence on modern indie these days and the reunion probably helped to dissipate the sort of mystique that had built up around them but i don't think their legacy has really gone down much idk and if so only because ITAOTS was held up to a sort of ridiculous degree
― ufo, Friday, 12 July 2019 05:03 (four years ago) link
ITAOTS is a crucial & still common beginners' guitar album
― flappy bird, Friday, 12 July 2019 05:05 (four years ago) link
Liz Phair’s profile has risen from where it was in the 2000s, thanks to young artists like Snail Mail & Soccer Mommy, the Guyville anniversary / reissue, etc.
― stan by me (morrisp), Friday, 12 July 2019 05:37 (four years ago) link
xp
fuck that, it is so much more
― Dan S, Friday, 12 July 2019 05:41 (four years ago) link
also, don't know about 'legacy', but Exile in Guyville is one of the great albums of all time
― Dan S, Friday, 12 July 2019 05:54 (four years ago) link
Liz Phair was in a BAD WAY as far as her legacy in the '00s.
― space invaders are smokin penises!!!! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 12 July 2019 06:00 (four years ago) link
Pitchfork:0.0 (2003)2.0 (2005)2.6 (2010, for good measure)
― stan by me (morrisp), Friday, 12 July 2019 06:16 (four years ago) link
yeah seeing liz phair bounce back has been pretty heartening. i don't even think the 2003 album that everyone hated was that bad, but it definitely had a huge effect on her legacy.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 12 July 2019 06:24 (four years ago) link
Staind I kinda like the singles, compared w/ like Korn they are def not album artists though ... "Outside" and "Its Been Awhile" are strong IMO, I'd be curious if anyone has any Staind deep cut they think is on that level but I tried to dig in & couldn't make it too far― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Wednesday, July 10, 2019 11:43 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Wednesday, July 10, 2019 11:43 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
not a deep cut but always had a soft spot for Epiphany.
― big city slam (Spottie), Friday, 12 July 2019 06:54 (four years ago) link
Up: Rob Hubbard, Martin Galway and Ben Daglish.
More of an early 10s thing than now maybe, but C-64 chip music was an ovbious influence on the likes of Aviici and Skrillex.
― The GeirBot (Geir Hongro), Friday, 12 July 2019 09:21 (four years ago) link
From before that really, from Crystal Castles etc in 2006-07 as well. (Now there's a band whose reputation collapsed this decade).
In general videogame soundtracks are a part of pop DNA these days and the reputation of videogame music is up this decade. Just this week Pitchfork published a Classic Album thing about the Ocarina of Time soundtrack, by a proper electronic music writer.
― Matt DC, Friday, 12 July 2019 09:27 (four years ago) link
The big C64 revival was around 2001-2004-ish.
― Siegbran, Friday, 12 July 2019 09:29 (four years ago) link
Don't think anyone has said Crystal Castles yet, that is quite a plummet
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 12 July 2019 09:36 (four years ago) link
Obviously there was also stuff like 50 Cent's "Ayo Technology" in the 00s (And even earlier stuff from Orbital) but I feel the C-64 influence was even stronger on some early EDM.
― The GeirBot (Geir Hongro), Friday, 12 July 2019 09:39 (four years ago) link
Ten years ago I was pretty reluctant to admit liking Slowdive, now the cool kids love em
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Friday, 12 July 2019 09:42 (four years ago) link
The single songwriter writing everything all alone is definitely down although this might have happened in the 00s already
― The GeirBot (Geir Hongro), Friday, 12 July 2019 10:34 (four years ago) link
Feel like every move from this band gets them more cultural spotlight and more ridicule, like a continuous New Jersey
― Vinnie, Friday, 12 July 2019 11:25 (four years ago) link
^I thought on first reading that you meant the state (but I guess not)
― stan by me (morrisp), Friday, 12 July 2019 11:42 (four years ago) link
Ed Banger and the whole pre-EDM saturated electro house sound is way down on where it was a decade ago imo
― help yourself to another slice of apple ... crumble (Willl), Friday, 12 July 2019 11:44 (four years ago) link
“a faddish style is no longer current” /= a specific artist’s legacy
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Friday, 12 July 2019 12:03 (four years ago) link
I stand corrected.
Sebastian, Justice, Uffie and the like have taken a nosedive in recent times.
― help yourself to another slice of apple ... crumble (Willl), Friday, 12 July 2019 13:13 (four years ago) link
I already said this but SONIC YOUTH!― flappy bird, Thursday, 11 July 2019 23:49 (seven hours ago) bookmarkflaglinkhas gone way down― flappy bird, Thursday, 11 July 2019 23:49 (seven hours
― flappy bird, Thursday, 11 July 2019 23:49 (seven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
― flappy bird, Thursday, 11 July 2019 23:49 (seven hours
They definitely don't get the same amount of critical praise that they got in the late 80s/early 90s, and it would be hard to, but I don't think their stock is lower in 2019 than it was in 2009, and certainly not worse than in 2011? Does anyone still rate NYC G&F as a 0.0 album, for example?
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Friday, 12 July 2019 13:23 (four years ago) link
If their stock is lower, it's cuz they ain't releasing new albums we discuss
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 July 2019 13:24 (four years ago) link