i think the '50s fading has been pretty natural, it seemed like the peak nostalgia for that era was the '80s, and now thirty-plus years later the peak nostalgia is for the '80s. Stranger Things is like the new Stand By Me etc.
― omar little, Thursday, 11 July 2019 16:40 (four years ago) link
G-Eazy and Logic still embrace that turn-of-the-50s Rat Pack aesthetic tho
― space invaders are smokin penises!!!! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 11 July 2019 16:41 (four years ago) link
Should I pitch this as a Slate essay?
― space invaders are smokin penises!!!! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 11 July 2019 16:42 (four years ago) link
jazz d-bags are really the only ones keeping the 50s going at this point imo
― the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 11 July 2019 16:43 (four years ago) link
Probably helped along by 50s music largely disappearing from oldies stations. I remember tuning into Nick at Nite as a kid and the bumpers were that 50s aesthetic, lots of I Love Lucy etc. Now I see it broadcasts Friends and Full House!
― blatherskite, Thursday, 11 July 2019 16:44 (four years ago) link
Also, like, there is a lot more representation in media and I can’t imagine a lot of non-white Americans have the fondest memories of anything that happened before 1964
― space invaders are smokin penises!!!! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 11 July 2019 16:44 (four years ago) link
xxp speaking of which, Sun Ra's profile seems higher than ever, tons of great new remasters/reissues coming out all the time
― sleeve, Thursday, 11 July 2019 16:44 (four years ago) link
XP Rockabilly D-Bags still keepin' the '50s alive too.
― frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 11 July 2019 16:45 (four years ago) link
― omar little, Thursday, July 11, 2019 11:40 AM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
looking forward to the next remake of stephen king's it in 2043, with timelines in the 2040s and the nostalgic 2010s
― mott the hoopleheads (voodoo chili), Thursday, 11 July 2019 16:55 (four years ago) link
feel like my kids are gonna think That 70s Show was actually filmed in the 70s, same way I thought Happy Days was actually from the 50s
― frogbs, Thursday, 11 July 2019 16:56 (four years ago) link
I figure 50s kitsch was also big in the 80s/90s because you could still find stuff from that era in thrift stores
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 11 July 2019 16:58 (four years ago) link
They should do a remake of “Back to the Future” where a kid goes back to the 80s, and everything is pretty much the same, except he can’t get his iPhone to work.
― stan by me (morrisp), Thursday, 11 July 2019 17:09 (four years ago) link
"Huey! Huey, it's Billy. Your cousin, Billy Lewis? You know that new sound you're looking for? Well, listen to this!"
― omar little, Thursday, 11 July 2019 17:12 (four years ago) link
Tell me, Future Boy, who's President of the United States in 2019?
― Siegbran, Thursday, 11 July 2019 17:15 (four years ago) link
oh man
― stan by me (morrisp), Thursday, 11 July 2019 17:20 (four years ago) link
― stan by me (morrisp), Thursday, July 11, 2019 10:09 AM (thirteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
this is a subplot of the movie detention (the character travels back in time to 1993)
― american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 11 July 2019 17:24 (four years ago) link
there's a thread about which song a 2015 Marty would play in 1985 to blow the kids' minds
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 11 July 2019 17:24 (four years ago) link
Gangnam Style?
― Siegbran, Thursday, 11 July 2019 17:25 (four years ago) link
guess it was 2006 Marty: If Marty McFly went back in time thirty years ago today, what song does he play at the dance to blow everyone's mind?
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 11 July 2019 17:25 (four years ago) link
which song would Marty blast into his dad's ears to torture him and which future villain would he dress up as?
― omar little, Thursday, 11 July 2019 17:26 (four years ago) link
Sun Ra's profile seems higher than ever, tons of great new remasters/reissues coming out all the time
Nah, the Sun Ra wave (and subsequent total distortion of jazz discourse among rock critics who heard Ra and almost nothing else, and thus had no way of placing his work into historical context) crested in the late '90s and early '00s.
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Thursday, 11 July 2019 17:53 (four years ago) link
― omar little, Thursday, July 11, 2019 5:26 PM (twenty-eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
6ix9ine
― ☮ (peace, man), Thursday, 11 July 2019 17:57 (four years ago) link
I would disagree strongly. The arkestra is touring more than ever, he's being referenced in non-music specific artmaking contexts constantly, and there is a deluge of new product in record stores - mostly live material but still steadily coming out.
xpost
― the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 11 July 2019 17:59 (four years ago) link
xp 6ix9ine works for both aspects of the question
― mott the hoopleheads (voodoo chili), Thursday, 11 July 2019 17:59 (four years ago) link
I wonder what "vintage" 2010s stuff will exist for the future revival (assuming they aren't living in a Mad Max hellscape by then). It's hard to imagine American Apparel clothes or IKEA furniture lasting 50 years the way Sixties or Seventies vintage did... Cutesy enamel pins?
― blatherskite, Thursday, 11 July 2019 18:02 (four years ago) link
He'd stick the "AirPods" in his dad's ears, one of them would fall right out -- "Sorry, wait a sec" -- nothing would happen while the Bluetooth is pairing -- "Just a sec, I'm trying to pull up Spotify... nuts..."
― stan by me (morrisp), Thursday, 11 July 2019 18:02 (four years ago) link
sadly pfunk isnt as strong as it was in the 90s.
― Thus Spoke Darraghustra (Oor Neechy), Thursday, 11 July 2019 18:06 (four years ago) link
I think all funk music has trended way downward as 70's/80's R&B's stock has risen
― space invaders are smokin penises!!!! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 11 July 2019 18:08 (four years ago) link
Such a great thread.
Up: Grateful Dead
Down: Sonic Youth
― flappy bird, Thursday, 11 July 2019 18:10 (four years ago) link
Everyone is Xanned and CBD'd out of their gourds and would rather listen to Teddy Pendergrass than Kool & the Gang. You hate to see it.
― space invaders are smokin penises!!!! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 11 July 2019 18:12 (four years ago) link
"Sorry, BMG has restricted this content in your country era."
― blatherskite, Thursday, 11 July 2019 18:16 (four years ago) link
when called to "get down with the boogie," the youth of the 2010s said "no thank you."
― mott the hoopleheads (voodoo chili), Thursday, 11 July 2019 18:31 (four years ago) link
Trap hip-hop has a higher stock now obv? I mean the trap sound is currently all over the place in mainstream pop, from Ariana Grande to Billie Eilish.
― The GeirBot (Geir Hongro), Thursday, 11 July 2019 18:49 (four years ago) link
kinda hard to figure out a critical legacy for something so current as trap music.
― mott the hoopleheads (voodoo chili), Thursday, 11 July 2019 18:57 (four years ago) link
trap hasn't really gone away since "Don't Like"
― flappy bird, Thursday, 11 July 2019 19:06 (four years ago) link
Elvis has had two massive Xmas released albums in recent years, i.e. the ones where they strap his vocals onto new orchestral arrangements.so, yeah, he is still a big thing commerically.
― mark e, Thursday, 11 July 2019 19:10 (four years ago) link
the trap sound is currently all over the place in mainstream pop
these things are related - the primacy of funk rhythms has receded as trap rhythms have come to the fore, so the currency of acts like P-Funk has declined (along with my interest in rap and R&B)
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 11 July 2019 19:12 (four years ago) link
I actually think there's something to be explored there about how generations get keyed into certain rhythms early on and then as that generation's impact on music declines those rhythms start to vanish as well, to the point where you get people on either end of the spectrum (young or old) totally baffled about things like "how do you dance to that" because their bodies just don't respond to the rhythms
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 11 July 2019 19:15 (four years ago) link
also just think it's interesting to chart the ascent and decline of rhythmic templates over the course of pop music - from swing to the blues shuffle to rock's straight 4/4 to funk to disco to house etc
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 11 July 2019 19:22 (four years ago) link
That's interesting—reminds me whenever I read that anecdote about Dylan saying, "Wow, you can dance to that!" in response to the Byrds' "Mr Tambourine Man", I think, "How?.
― blatherskite, Thursday, 11 July 2019 19:37 (four years ago) link
Yeah it's interesting how 80 - 100 bpm beats just do not exist in rap now (not counting things like dancehall, bounce, etc), unless it's half-time. Or self-consciously throwback. They had a good 20+ year run though.
― change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 11 July 2019 19:41 (four years ago) link
there's obviously a lot of variety in the cracks and at the margins but it is interesting to me how broader musical culture often coalesces around specific rhythms/bpms and just kind of all agree that "whelp, this is what people are dancing to now". afaict pop music these days basically rotates through either trap beats and 4/4 house-type beats - rock and jazz rhythms are completely gone.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 11 July 2019 19:51 (four years ago) link
"The critical legacy for the artist "trap music" is higher in the 2010s than the 1980s" is the insight Geir fans have been clamouring to have return to the boards
It's hard to imagine American Apparel clothes or IKEA furniture lasting 50 years
IKEA furniture is holding up at 40 years already, it'll probably go another ten without crumbling to dust
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Thursday, 11 July 2019 19:53 (four years ago) link
I feel like I don't see as much interest these days in outsider/weird artists like Daniel Johnston. Maybe shifts in culture about mental illness.
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 11 July 2019 20:13 (four years ago) link
there is no outside, everybody is online
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 11 July 2019 20:15 (four years ago) link
I.e. there is only the outside.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 11 July 2019 20:22 (four years ago) link
I feel like I don't see as much interest these days in outsider/weird artists like Daniel Johnston.
I had a dream last night where Tonetta showed up at a nightclub, and was playing ripping guitar solos over the DJ
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Thursday, 11 July 2019 20:27 (four years ago) link
haha that is awesome
Tonetta's Bandcamp page is :0 btw
― sleeve, Thursday, 11 July 2019 20:30 (four years ago) link
You still have acts such as The Weeknd and DJ Khalid who have a more traditional R&B/funk vibe, although perhaps more 80s R&B/funk than 70s R&B/funk.
― The GeirBot (Geir Hongro), Thursday, 11 July 2019 21:08 (four years ago) link
Cappadonna’s more respected now than he was ten years ago. Ghostface probably less so but he’s still a legend so w/e. But the revelation that doom was listening to a lot of capadonna when he recorded doomsday is v eye opening
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Thursday, 11 July 2019 21:09 (four years ago) link