Which artists legacies have improved/worsened during the 2010s?

The Police are a weird one, I never hear anyone really talk about them and you don't hear any of their songs in revival stuff like Stranger Things.

I just watched season 2 Stranger Things finale and "Every Breath You Take" is the last song played

nu metal has def been reassessed, in its cheesiest/commercial forms too not just "respectable" stuff like SOAD/Deftones ... gentrifier cafe was playing Limp Bizkit the other day ... "Butterfly" is a certain classic (maybe not metal-qualifying but visually). but the whole of commercial rock from the early 00s sounds better now than it did initially IMO, heard puddle of mudd in the gym & it jams, Korn are obv good etc

idk man. "butterfly" def qualifies, i'll concede that (even though it approaches rap metal through an rhcp sample... for a song i hate with all of my heart it's v smart)

imo the peak cultural cachet for "butterfly" was its recurring appearance in the movie orange county

Feel like Fleetwood Mac's sacking of Buckingham is already causing a substantial tumble in their standing.

I never see people my age (41) wearing Nirvana shirts, but do see quite a few youngins wearing them.
But after asking a 22 yr old "Oh cool there's still Thrasher magazine and young people read it??" and getting a "huh? oh I just like the design of the shirt" response, I'm not sure if they even listen to Nirvana!

dunno if that's true but it took more than twenty years for people to stop their sexist yapping about Buckingham at the expense of Nicks + McVie.

re: nu-metal, again i guess it depends on whether you think this thread is assessing its critical or popular reputation. chocolate starfish is i assume still p radioactive for most critics (i'd love to write a retrospective piece about it lol) whereas people who grew up with it are... making music now, or at least own gentrifier cafes

The Who are one of those bands where their legacy didn't carry over to the next generation of listeners. Led Zeppelin, the Doors, the Beatles, the Stones, Pink Floyd...they've all picked up new listeners along the way to varying degrees. Not sure why that is but as someone who really grew up listening to classic rock The Who were the one huge band that i distinctly remember not appealing to me and i knew zero kids growing up who listened to them.

The Breeders' rep has improved to the point that i think a lot of ppl consider them superior to the Pixies

So-called 'extreme' metal is seemingly less prized now than it was in the mid to late 00s.

xp I certainly do (and did)

Not sure why that is but as someone who really grew up listening to classic rock The Who were the one huge band that i distinctly remember not appealing to me and i knew zero kids growing up who listened to them.

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i think they're like a crusty uncle band and they're a bit too corny

The Breeders are better than the Pixies btw

I always thought so!

Fleetwood Mac probably only lost some critical standing...I've seen a number of pans or at least mixed reviews of the current tour. But those shows are still selling.

Not sure why that is but as someone who really grew up listening to classic rock The Who were the one huge band that i distinctly remember not appealing to me and i knew zero kids growing up who listened to them.
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same here. I thought of them as that cheesy band that did that dumb song & film about blind pinball kid and whose singer just swirled the mic around by the cord while the obnoxious guitarist jumped around the stage.

im 28 and i was one of two who fans in my high school

between the Breeders and the Pixies it's not a contest for me at this point and throwing in the Amps album seems almost unfair.

not a lot of fans of wes anderson's rushmore itt, i guess

Funny, judging from my friends who teach college students, I've gotten the impression that they don't really know Nirvana, but if you play Teen Spirit they say 'oh yeah, I've heard that song'.

Up: astrology references

The first few times I tried listening to Who's Next, all I could to think to myself was 'they don't deserve this drummer'.

the key to listening to who's next is listening for the first time when you're 12 years old.

I just watched season 2 Stranger Things finale and "Every Breath You Take" is the last song played

ok admittedly I should've watched the last couple episodes before posting that

This song was Number One for six weeks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-fA-gBCkj0

That song sucks, but Uptown Funk will be playing at weddings and other parties for years to come.

jfc

https://www.discogs.com/Mark-Ronson-Feat-Bruno-Mars-Uptown-Funk/release/6624863

(the only official vinyl release)

It was in reference to the Police discussion

Bruno still rocks

The comparisons for Queen's biopic success and current playcount might more like: Hamilton OCR, Greatest Showman OST, Glee, Frozen OST. Musical theater has been a rising thing this decade, and it seems more like musical nerds discovering them rather than kids who pick up Pink Floyd, Nirvana and Joy Division tshirts at the mall.

Also, it seems like Bohemian Rhapsody, the song, was already a self-sustaining meme like Don't Stop Believin' or Africa, but those bands don't have a compelling story line behind them. Now I wanna brainstorm angles for making a Toto meme-sploitation screenplay!

I'm calling Homeland Security.

<i>Now I wanna brainstorm angles for making a Toto meme-sploitation screenplay!</i>

Well there is the episode of Yacht Rock about the making of Rosanna.

Serious musical theatre heads know that "Greatest Showman" is bullshit

also anyone who has endured the movie for a any length of time

Now I wanna brainstorm angles for making a Toto meme-sploitation screenplay!

It's all there! "Thriller," drummer who dies in a bizarre gardening accident, that story in the doc about Steve Lukather writing that song for George Benson because the bassist was in the bathroom. The movie writes itself. They could call it "En Toto."

Actually, they would just call it "Hold the Line" or something. And it would be bookended by a performance at the state fair. Any state fair.

Toto Recall

I feel that The Who have always been neglected since the 90s

I thought “turn your love around” was written while ON the crapper

The Who are one of those bands where their legacy didn't carry over to the next generation of listeners. Led Zeppelin, the Doors, the Beatles, the Stones, Pink Floyd...they've all picked up new listeners along the way to varying degrees.

They're a weird band with an inconsistent and somehow sparse back catalogue and were collectively pretty unloveable. Also musically a difficult band to emulate - not technically difficult, but if you tried you'd just sound like, er, The Who.

Like I remember when Suede's first album reached its 20y anniversary release and thinking it had been as long as say when Sgt Pepper got its CD 20y anniversary in the 80s.
Yet it didn't feel that long ago to me regarding Suede whereas between 67 and 87 it seemed like totally different eras.
It might be totally subjective, though and the musical landscape IS totally different now so I don't know...

Hm, I'm interested in this idea, which I hear a lot. Around what year/s do you feel like things started to slow down? What are the qualities that, say, make the #1s from 1987 closer to those from 2007 than those from 1967?

re: nu-metal, again i guess it depends on whether you think this thread is assessing its critical or popular reputation. chocolate starfish is i assume still p radioactive for most critics (i'd love to write a retrospective piece about it lol) whereas people who grew up with it are... making music now, or at least own gentrifier cafes

― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, July 10, 2019 11:09 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

i feel like the gentrifier cafes are critics tho its just that were old ... i mean this stuff isn't just nostalgia-popular its actively Cool for zoomers & young millennials

this song off chocolate starfish is so good lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dn8vzTsnPps

a funny thing looking at the DJ I'm reminded of is that nu metal dudes' interactions w/ hip hop were very Run DMC influenced, I've said this elsewhere before but like the only ppl wearing shell toe adidas in the late 90s / early 00s were nu metal fans/artists .. it explains the dated sounding raps from this era

Funny, judging from my friends who teach college students, I've gotten the impression that they don't really know Nirvana, but if you play Teen Spirit they say 'oh yeah, I've heard that song'.

Interesting. I had two different 13yo students in the past year who badly wanted to learn that song as one of their major goals.

i mean they're scratching Rakim saying "check out my melody" lol badass xp

Commercially, Jennifer Lopez, Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera have all lost it thoughout the 10s. A bit uncertain how critically acclaimed they ever were though.

i think out of the three only Britney has had considerable staying power and she'll probably get a major and favorable reassessment at some point (though she's viewed pretty favorably already). J-Lo and C-Ag are just famous ppl at this point.

a funny thing looking at the DJ I'm reminded of is that nu metal dudes' interactions w/ hip hop were very Run DMC influenced, I've said this elsewhere before but like the only ppl wearing shell toe adidas in the late 90s / early 00s were nu metal fans/artists .. it explains the dated sounding raps from this era

― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Wednesday, July 10, 2019 10:28 AM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

i've never considered this before but it's... v otm

which, the era coincided with this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown_Royal_(album)

britney's rap is very solid, aguilera is kind of a blind spot for me as far as how ppl consider her although I do see ppl give "genie in a bottle" the props it deserves, JLo's stock has fallen bc of the stories about how execs would take songs from like Brandy & gift them to JLo or w/e