Rosalía (Post-Flamenco Art-Pop From Spain)

New songs are not wowing me

I went back tho& listened to the older stuff and I get The buzz tho. This def feels like retroactive props for stuff that was missed the first time

By the press I mean obv ilx was on it 👁

So far, after the little I’ve heard, I’m surprised by the hype/genius thing. I’m willing to get excited by something new though so I’ll keep listening !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2j3x0VYnehg

Perfect Rosalíaggaeton.

the (extremely wrong) criticisms of "con altura" upthread kind of apply to this for me

it's all right tho

low key but romantic

def a full-throated foray into urbana this time, which isn't really what i look for in rosalia, but the hook has been in my head all day.

and it's way better if you watch the video

love it

I have zero problems with this crass pandering manoeuvre

the little hum at the end of the yo x ti chorus is soooo good

ozuna is a good foil for her on this song too, his voice is so boyish

Rosalía is great at ASMR. I think this should be interesting to watch even if you're not an ASMR devotee as she relates almost all of it to her music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tcXP2Jk5Cw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zwpwbdGNIk

That’s dope

New song “Juro Que” is a return to flamenco:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtym36PG6R8

quite dramatic

The “narrative” didn’t really go where I thought it would go...

there's a trip-hoppy new single, "Dolerme"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuUa9ZQL28w

not sure what I think of it...feels pretty album-track-ish?

Just listened, I like it

tbf very little pop music is working for me right now, will have to revisit TBD

I like the verses and small experimentations but wish there was less autotune on the chorus.

^ i had listened to that song when posted here and liked it. felt like rushed recorded though. then it just came up in some radio station days ago, and brutally kicked in like its an eloquentely accomplished song. it is. i love all of the tough read Dolerme is, and the way she creaks and wavers and punches here. all verses are pure gold

Dolerme still hasn't clicked for me, but I do dig this twitchy new one with Travis Scott, "TKN":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5xIoeG4uVI

^cool song/video

her song with billie eilish is incredible

I was so into her a few years ago, and feel like it all peaked with "Aute Cuture" (still an awesome track). nothing since has really caught my ear. I also watched a longform TV performance, and it was... not very good? (I know you have to take televised concerts with a grain of salt, but...)

(I also acknowledge we're talking about a lot of one-offs and collabs, and maybe her next album will be hot stuff)

i was kinda expecting an album to emerge out of all those singles, and hoping that it might recontextualise some of the lesser post-"aute cuture" singles, but that hasn't happened yet

hopefully when she gets around to a proper next album she'll be back to her peak

her 2019 run was still pretty great even if it wasn't all as strong as "con altura" and "aute cuture", it's only really last year that i started to feel a bit more disappointed

yeah as far as el guincho productions go, at the moment for me it's friendship ended with rosalía, now lous and the yakuza is my best friend

I haven't heard anything by her I like nearly as much as the first two songs posted in this thread.

oh I agree about her last few singles being less fascinatingly good, but her vocal on the duet with Billie Eilish I bumped the thread for is fantastic. she’s good on the “Blinding Lights” remix as well. very much looking forward to her new stuff.

new song w/ dominican dembow artist tokischa is fantastic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmmTz3W-JO0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLoGsDDn4w0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-CEd6xrRQc

alright but weird lead single choice

“ft The Weeknd” has a certain dampening effect on my vibe

When I look at the brilliant work she was doing in 2017/2018, and then I look at everything she's done in the last three years, it's hard to believe it's the same person. Really dispiriting.

her 2019 output was good, just diminishing returns since then though

lmao someone hoovering coke in the first 10 seconds THE WEEKND IS HERE

yeah her run of singles in 2019 was as good or better than a lot of 'el mal qurer' imo, but since then she's really leaned into doing music w/ super famous ppl and it has been pretty bad. tho the song w/ toksicha is pretty great i think. this new song w/ the weeknd isn't bad exactly just kinda boring

querer*

You folks like pop that plays by the rules (whether in English or Spanish) a lot more than I do. Nothing she's done since El Mal Querer has been as weird or deliberately off-putting as that album. It's all been coloring inside the lines, stuff that seems calculatedly aimed at radio. Which is fine, get that money. But the videos that made me start this thread were amazing and her last three years of output have been...not amazing.

I’m hardly pop-averse (spoiler alert), and “Aute Cuture” is one of my favorite songs of the past few years… but I agree she seemed kind of visionary at first, and now not so much.

i think "con altura", "aute culture," "yo x ti, tu x mi" carried on the thread of 'el mal querer' while making broadly more appealing music & music that just overall had a different artistic aim to it. & i don't mean, or think, that she simply made music to get more rich and famous, i think she is a fan of mainstream latin music, stuff that is prob club/party music in her world, and she wanted to make that kind of music. i thought those songs brought her sound out from under the shadow of flamenco (prob inevitable if not necessary) while still being percussive & frenetic in the same way as "malamente" etc were. the thread connected to me. it was clear she was trying to become a global pop star but the songs felt true to the overall project that is her art, imo. i think she's lost that thread since then in ways that are pretty obvious.

also i don't think 'el mal querer' is that weird. it's unique & singular, but weird? i can't get there. it always felt like pop music to me -- the videos telegraph this openly, and it was hugely popular music in spain -- just a very fresh take on it

That video with The Weeknd is really bad

j0rdan otm

I loved "Con Altura" but generally agree with the comments. In a way her arc reminds me of...The Weeknd's...

The Weeknd can die and I don't really like the song, but her vocals and the idea of a Bachata pop song are very fine with me. I am keeping my hopes up for a solid release. She should have remembered James Blake, or Billie Eilish, or Bad Bunny. Someone who actually speaks Spanish for example.