the song imago speaks of goes absolutely nowhere
― Thus Spoke Darraghustra (Oor Neechy), Thursday, 4 July 2019 00:52 (four years ago) link
or have i got the songs mixed up? the last song is the one i speak of
― Thus Spoke Darraghustra (Oor Neechy), Thursday, 4 July 2019 01:21 (four years ago) link
5th track. closer is an ambient classical piece
― imago, Thursday, 4 July 2019 05:34 (four years ago) link
My problem with what little I've heard of his music is that it's usually less interesting than that of his avant-garde and classical touchstones, although the cultivated art brut vibe does add something different (and very American) to the equation, bringing to mind someone like Harry Partch. I mentioned Ferneyhough earlier (because he wrote an opera on Walter Benjamin, Shadowtime, and 'Angelus Novus' is a fairly transparent allusion to the 'Theses on the Philosophy of History') and I always wonder why LJ never reps for that kind of notated maximalist stuff.
Anyway, I'm halfway through Birefringence right now and so far it's won me over, including that first track.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 4 July 2019 08:35 (four years ago) link
simple answer: ferneyhough et al rarely recorded a definitive version of their works and released it as an object of art. my idiot consumer brain still can't deal with the notion of notated music. too many interpretations, too much responsibility on the performers. this is my failing obviously
i *can* however deal with live recordings (or live performances i attend) of previously-released material, so maybe the mere existence of a definitive version with a release date and a length is enough to validate subsequent reworkings. i also like it when artists cover other artists' songs
what am i on about, sorry
― imago, Thursday, 4 July 2019 10:15 (four years ago) link
The good news is there are plenty of composer-supervised, even composer-approved recordings of 20th and 21st century works, although in Ferneyhough's case it raises inextricable paradoxes insofar as his music is all about the tension between reading, listening and playing.
I'd also like to point out that your take (which I share to some degree, as I'm still very much attached to the figure of the auteur – or autrice – regardless of art form) is distinctly un-Benjamin-esque: the aura thus no longer clings to a given performance, having shifted towards the endlessly reproducible recording itself.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 4 July 2019 10:38 (four years ago) link
The Brian Ferneyhough of metal.
― pomenitul, Monday, 1 July 2019 bookmarkflaglink
Please don't lol
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 4 July 2019 10:53 (four years ago) link
On account of the Benjamin reference. So I was half-joking.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 4 July 2019 10:55 (four years ago) link
Are you still keeping up with new 'new' music?
Not really, no, a bit sad about it but there's little to no time to invest in it. But I do want to make it to some concerts.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 4 July 2019 10:58 (four years ago) link
That's too bad. I've all but given up on film for similar reasons so I don't blame you.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 4 July 2019 11:01 (four years ago) link
it's interesting that i started the thread on this artist because i absolutely and fundamentally do not understand their music
― treeship., Saturday, 20 February 2021 17:45 (three years ago) link
this is more an observation about myself than jute gyte. i wish i understood some music theory.
― treeship., Saturday, 20 February 2021 17:50 (three years ago) link
I sort of don't fully understand either, but it is awfully pretty
― imago, Saturday, 20 February 2021 17:51 (three years ago) link
yeah, i mean sometimes i like to listen to really evil sounding black metal while thumbing through my copy of dante's inferno. jute gyte has hit this spot before -- i remember ressentiment having a really claustrophobic sound i liked. it reminds me of the time nakh corrected me for misusing the term "ressentiment" in conversation.
― treeship., Saturday, 20 February 2021 17:55 (three years ago) link
His next metal album, which could be out any day now, is going to be his most aggressive yet, which I'm quite excited for.
The aleatoric and serialist methods he uses I understand both from instinct and from our private communications to be as much a means of generating creativity through restriction and formation of process as they are integral to the desired sound
― imago, Saturday, 20 February 2021 18:02 (three years ago) link
That said, both the curiosity value they generate and the mathematical pleasures of hearing for instance polytempi sync up and fall apart are not harmful to my enjoyment
― imago, Saturday, 20 February 2021 18:04 (three years ago) link
Ultimately I do think he just likes writing bangers, at least in his metal guise
― imago, Saturday, 20 February 2021 18:05 (three years ago) link
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https://jutegyte.bandcamp.com/
― dow, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 19:54 (three years ago) link
https://jutegyte.bandcamp.com/album/mitrealit-t
― imago, Friday, 7 May 2021 07:56 (three years ago) link
The first two tracks are downright catchy in their wonkiness. I feel like I'm eventually going to be a massive fan of this dude when I finally come to appreciate 'metal vocals' more broadly, lol.
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 7 May 2021 11:05 (three years ago) link
Well yeah, he's always known a tune. Prometheus Ends In Onan follows (to an extent) a familiar Gytean formula but it's a monster, a monster
― imago, Friday, 7 May 2021 11:34 (three years ago) link
Prometheus Ends In Onan is currently blowing my mind. I think even non avant-garde/Branca loving metal people could get behind this one. I'm only on track 2 but thats my take so far. Love it.
― gman59, Friday, 7 May 2021 20:30 (three years ago) link
https://jutegyte.bandcamp.com/album/unus-mundus-patet
Not a drill! MAYBE SOUNDS A BIT LIKE ONE
― imago, Tuesday, 5 September 2023 15:29 (eight months ago) link
opening track really does sound like slowed down/sped up tape
― Saxophone Of Futility (Michael B), Tuesday, 5 September 2023 16:37 (eight months ago) link
Not a drill! MAYBE SOUNDS A BIT LIKE ONE― imago
― imago
dugga dugga dugga
jute gyte has had nine releases since the last one i listened to, "bierefrigence"? i can't keep up :(
― Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, 5 September 2023 19:16 (eight months ago) link
Only this one and Mitrealitat are metal of those since Birefringence
This one has some quality stuff, mostly the first three tracks and Killing A Sword
― imago, Tuesday, 5 September 2023 19:46 (eight months ago) link
Is there a primer somewhere on this guys discography? I just used up part of a bandcamp voucher on Birefringence and Young Eagle DLs. Quite random. I already owned Ship.. and Perdurance CDs. I'm in the mood to just get it all.
― Duke, Monday, 1 January 2024 01:18 (four months ago) link
I mean, I can advise, but even I haven't heard all the purely electronic stuff (much of which is good). Jute Gyte 2024
― imago, Monday, 1 January 2024 07:30 (four months ago) link
Thanks. Realistically I'll never find the time to digest all of this. I'll dabble.
― Duke, Monday, 1 January 2024 18:49 (four months ago) link