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For those who are interested, check the bolded albums in the top 25 or so of my ballot above for some missed classics.
- octobeard
Hey someone voted for one of my noms, fist bump. I've randomly selected your Fennesz pick as one to check out, anything else in particular you'd recommend for one drawn more to the "trancebient" or industrial-lite extremes of the ambient plane rather than endless Eno?
― viborg, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 01:41 (six years ago)
...And another thing. Last post I swear, but speaking of trance:
I would absolutely take a playlist/recommendation list for the more beat driven/trance stuff of the early-mid 90s as I'm largely ignorant of it - partly down to aesthetics (which I'm working on) but like I say, mostly it's a case of not knowing where to start.
― Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski),
Disc 3 of Sasha & Digweed's first Renaissance Mix is a good starting point, although likely widely reviled here. There's also that legendary Oakenfold Goa set but the only version I've found has a persistent buzz in the right channel.
― viborg, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 02:06 (six years ago)
For fun, I made a top 100 list based on the poll results... this is the top 100 *artists* by total points. Any collaborations were scored by giving each artist involved the same amount of points the album received, and I combined solo artists performing under different names (Namlook, Tetsu Inoue, Dirk Serries/Vidna Obmana, Vangelis, etc). I might have missed a few but I'm pretty sure it won't affect the top 100:
1. Brian Eno 72022. Gas 18443. Stars of the Lid 17794. Harold Budd 17465. Aphex Twin 17456. Daniel Lanois 15417. Biosphere 13608. Steve Roach 12239. Global Communication 103610. Tangerine Dream 94711. Laraaji 82012. Stuart Dempster 77913. Tim Hecker 74414. Orb, The 73115. Robert Fripp 71716. Roger Eno 71117. Autechre 69218. William Basinski 68819. Vangelis 66920. Fennesz 66621. Oneohtrix Point Never 65722. Windy & Carl 65323. KLF, The 61424. Hiroshi Yoshimura 61125. Colleen 60626. Zoviet France 57627. Loscil 56428. Ryuichi Sakamoto 54329. Manuel Göttsching 53230. Pauline Oliveros 51531. Lustmord 51432. Caretaker, The 49933. Alio Die 49634. Eluvium 47835. Arthur Russell 45936. Laurie Spiegel 45637. Éliane Radigue 43838. Tetsu Inoue 41539. Jon Hassell 41140. Future Sound Of London 40641. Keith Fullerton Whitman 40042. Bohren and Der Club of Gore 39543. Thomas Köner 39144. Vladislav Delay 38845. David Hykes & Harmonic Choir 38646. Earth 37847. Gigi Masin 36948. Susumu Yokota 36249. Labradford 36150. Harmonia 36051. Miles Davis 34352. La Monte Young 34053. Marian Zazeela 34054. Raison d'être 34055. Andrew Chalk 33956. Robert Rich 33757. Slowdive 33258. Winged Victory for the Sullen 32759. Dead Texan, The 32660. Iasos 29461. n/a 29362. Nurse with Wound 28763. DeepChord 28664. Chapterhouse 28565. Max Richter 28366. Michael Stearns 28167. Alva Noto 27568. Oval 27369. Boris 26770. Hammock 26671. David Sylvia 26572. Holger Czukay 26573. Constance Demby 25074. Oren Ambarchi 24875. Popol Vuh 24776. Syntonic Research Inc. 24777. Mountains 24178. Kyle Bobby Dunn 24079. Meg Bowles 23880. Deathprod 23681. Terekke 23682. Pete Namlook 23583. Raymond Scott 23484. Charlemagne Palestine 23385. Spacemen 3 23186. Ian William Craig 23087. Marsen Jules 23088. David Behrman 22389. Woob 21990. Henry Flynt 21891. Justin Bieber 21792. Sunn O))) 21793. Michael Brook 21494. Robert Turman 21195. DJ Olive 20796. Tod Dockstader 20797. Richard Skelton 20598. 2814 20299. Ekkehard Ehlers 201100. Kaitlyn Aurelia Smith 201
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 02:44 (six years ago)
Various Artists - Pop Ambient 2002 - brimsteadHaha this is apparently the only one of the Pop Ambient comps I don't have. Recent years have seen the quality slipping imo. Or just treading water really.
― brimstead, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 02:51 (six years ago)
Tuomas, thanks so much for running this poll. This was awesome and you are awesome.
I had a split ballot.
WEIGHTED
Aphex Twin - Selected Ambient Works Volume IIPauline Oliveros / Stuart Dempster / Panaiotis - Deep ListeningBrian Eno - Ambient 4: On LandDavid Hykes & The Harmonic Choir - Hearing Solar WindsHarold Budd - The White ArcadesSteve Roach - Quiet Music: The Original 3-Hour CollectionMichael Stearns - Encounter (A Journey in the Key of Space)Brian Eno with Daniel Lanois & Roger Eno - Apollo: Atmospheres & SoundtracksPulse Emitter - Xenharmonic PassagesBrian Eno - Ambient 1: Music For AirportsSteve Roach - Structures From SilenceDon Slepian - Sea of BlissHarold Budd / Brian Eno - Ambient 2: The Plateaux of MirrorChubby Wolf - OrnitheologyDavid Casper with Scott Cossu, Jami Sieber & T'ao Chu-Shen - Crystal WavesIasos - Inter-Dimensional MusicVangelis - Invisible ConnectionsTangerine Dream - ZeitLustmørd - HeresyIngram Marshall - Fog Tropes / Gradual RequiemAntrilon - Mind EraseSarah Davachi - Qualities of Bodies Permanent
UNWEIGHTED
Les Halles - TransientNorman Westberg - 13X.Y.R. - ReflectionsLeandro Fresco & Rafael Anton Irissari - La EquidistanciaChristopher Willits - HorizonLoscil - Sea IslandStar Turbine - The Sleeping LandHead Phone Over Tone - Solar SailsSleepResearchFacility - Deep FriezeMarsen Jules - BeautyfearBrian Eno / Peter Chilvers - ReflectionJeremy Bible - Music for Black HolesTod Dockstader - Aerial #1Tom Heasley - Where the Earth Meets the SkyBiosphere - ShenzhouSeconds in Formaldehyde - Suchness #3Windy & Carl - Antarctica (The Bliss Out, Vol. 2)Jonas Munk - Absorb/Fabric/CascadeThom Brennan - MountainsGlobal Communication - 76:14Harold Budd - Lovely ThunderM. Geddes Gengras - Hawaiki TapesKyle Bobby Dunn - Bring Me the Head of Kyle Bobby DunnPulse Emitter - Planetary Scale Synth HypnosisGreg Davis - Mutually ArisingWarmth - EssayDeep Magic / Pine Smoke Lodge - SplitThomas Köner - Permafrost
― Vape Store (crüt), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 04:09 (six years ago)
12 - Don Slepian - Sea of Bliss
right on
― Milton Parker, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 04:14 (six years ago)
can anyone tell me what 5,4,3 were? page won't load for me - too many youtubes.
― massaman gai (front tea for two), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 04:23 (six years ago)
#5 Gas - Pop, 13 votes, 1 #1 votes, 771 points#4 Stars of the Lid - The Tired Sounds of Stars of the Lid, 12 votes, 1 #1 votes, 795 points#3 Brian Eno - Ambient 1: Music for Airports, 18 votes, 1 #1 votes, 1119 points
― but everybody calls me, (lukas), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 04:25 (six years ago)
I wish I loved Gas as much as everyone else does. On paper it should be the ideal thing for me, it just ends up feeling like treading water. I'm going to keep listening though, in hopes of a gradual breakthrough.
― but everybody calls me, (lukas), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 04:26 (six years ago)
XP thanks lukas!
― massaman gai (front tea for two), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 05:20 (six years ago)
Thanks for organising! My weighted ballot is...
Arthur Russell - World of EchoKraftwerk - AutobahnManuel Göttsching - E2–E4Jon Hassell / Brian Eno - Fourth World Vol. 1: Possible MusicsMiles Davis - In a Silent WayBrian Eno - Ambient 4: On LandColleen - Captain of NoneVarious Artists - Mono No AwareJon Keliehor - The Beginning of TimeIona Fortune - Tao of IHarmonia & Eno '76 - Tracks and Traces Hiroshi Yoshimura - GreenPendant - Make Me Know You SweetHiroshi Yoshimura - Music for Nine Post CardsHappy Meals - Full Ashram Devotional Ceremony (Volumes IV - VI)Cucina Povera - HiljaX.Y.R. - El DoradoPenelope Trappes - Penelope OneVarious Artists - BblisssColleen - A Flame My Love, a FrequencyCucina Povera - ZoomHuerco S. - Untitled
― paolo, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 06:53 (six years ago)
page won't load for me - too many youtubes.― massaman gai (front tea for two), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 05:23
― massaman gai (front tea for two), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 05:23
pro tip for this kind of thread: go into Preferences and untick the "show images" box for a bit
― Rory end to the lowenbrow (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 07:49 (six years ago)
As it appears I was the only one to vote for it, can I heartily recommend last year's The Fifty Eleven Project by Kasper Bjorke Quartet
https://www.theransomnote.com/music/track-by-track/track-by-track-kasper-bjrke-quartet-the-fifty-eleven-project/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XO7Ui7cZMVs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0soJe31PdQ
― groovypanda, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 09:21 (six years ago)
So much good music to explore. I've tried the Hykes Solar Winds album a number of times over the years but it's never really 'caught'. A bit of context works wonders for me and reading about the cistern chapel suddenly opened everything up. Wow.
Thanks again for the poll, Tuomas.
And cheers for the trance recommendations, viborg!
― Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 16:18 (six years ago)
The Ian William Craig record is really gorgeous and is making me weep tbh, thanks to those who placed it on their ballots.
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― Milton Parker, Thursday, 4 July 2019 00:28 (six years ago)
One thing I've taken from this poll is a newfound appreciation for Music For Airports. I've enjoyed Eno's other ambient albums but MFA always just sounded a bit dull to me. With this type of music there is of course a fine line between something being deep/immersive and just plain boring and I felt that it was on the wrong side of that. I gave it another chance after the poll results and for some reason now I get it, so that's good
― paolo, Thursday, 4 July 2019 08:41 (six years ago)
It seems like ambient's become quite a lot more popular over the last few years. I'm wondering if that's because people are more stressed than they used to be or is it just the way that trends in music work (or a bit of both). I certainly use it for self-care when I'm not feeling great.
― paolo, Thursday, 4 July 2019 08:44 (six years ago)
I'd say it's the opposite? People work less and less, more time for relaxation, slower lifestyles etc. Spas, wellness, yoga, all booming. Ambient is the soundtrack to that.
― Siegbran, Thursday, 4 July 2019 10:16 (six years ago)
People work less and less
uh this is patently false in most of the world
― sleeve, Thursday, 4 July 2019 14:58 (six years ago)
if there's any driver here it's "stress" about the end of the world actually happening in front of our eyes
― sleeve, Thursday, 4 July 2019 14:59 (six years ago)
https://ourworldindata.org/working-hours#the-decline-of-working-hours-per-year-after-the-industrial-revolution(and this is just for workers, add to that aging populations with more and more retirees)
― Siegbran, Thursday, 4 July 2019 15:21 (six years ago)
n 1980, the average worker clocked in 38.1 hours per week, which isn't that much below today's weekly average. However, back then, the typical worker only put in 43 weeks of work over the course of a year for an annual total of 1,638.3 hours. In other words, we're now spending roughly an extra 173 hours per year at our jobs in one way, shape, or form.
And that number doesn't even tell the whole story. Because an estimated 40% of U.S. employees regularly work more than 50 hours per week, and 20% work more than 60 hours per week, there are plenty of folks out there who might easily come close to hitting the 3,000-hour mark year after year (keeping in mind that these are the same people who are likely to forgo vacation time to meet deadlines and stay ahead of work-related obligations). And that could spell trouble not just for their physical health, but their productivity.
https://www.fool.com/careers/2017/12/17/heres-how-many-hours-the-average-american-works-pe.aspx
― sleeve, Thursday, 4 July 2019 15:23 (six years ago)
Siegbran and his Refinement of the Decline (of Working Hours)
― Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 4 July 2019 15:23 (six years ago)
Stuck In Traffic? You're Not Alone. New Data Show American Commute Times Are Longer
― sleeve, Thursday, 4 July 2019 15:25 (six years ago)
I don't know, but the combination of (more free time to enjoy long-form art) + (rise of relaxation/mindfulness/yoga) + (more old people who like slower music) looks like a perfect storm for ambient music to me.
― Siegbran, Thursday, 4 July 2019 15:26 (six years ago)
oh I totally agree! I just think your perspective is a bit Euro-centric here and doesn't seem to match the actual data
also, stress :)
― sleeve, Thursday, 4 July 2019 15:27 (six years ago)
it’s cause people don’t listen to music anymore, they just put it on
― brimstead, Thursday, 4 July 2019 18:01 (six years ago)
just kidding
hence all the “is this ambient” talk. maybe it doesn’t matter if it’s all ambient now anyway
― brimstead, Thursday, 4 July 2019 18:04 (six years ago)
Personally I'd say that ambient music has more in common with self-care tools like ASMR or guided mindfulness exercises than other types of music in terms of how I use it to relax and/or deal with stress. It's mainly functional music for me.
I went to see O Yuki Conjugate and Zoviet France recently and it was like some kind of group relaxation session. It made me feel more like I was listening to ASMR than on a night out.
― paolo, Thursday, 4 July 2019 18:47 (six years ago)
wow that's an amazing double bill!
― sleeve, Thursday, 4 July 2019 18:57 (six years ago)
I reckon it's more that the web just facilitates bringing affinity groups together. I certainly don't see any day to day evidence of more people listening to ambient music, but my internet interactions might lead me to think that way. Dunno.
I remember first getting into Richard Skelton back in 2010 and buying one of the 200-limited runs he produced (with pine cones and little bits of moor detritus included) and realising I legitimately knew in real life 10 people who owned one and internet-knew another 25. I could have been forgiven for thinking everyone was listening to Skelbo.
― Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Thursday, 4 July 2019 19:58 (six years ago)
Loving that Caretaker album. Not sure how I'd not come across it before.
Reminds me a lot of playing Bioshock
― groovypanda, Friday, 5 July 2019 09:21 (six years ago)
I was always underwhelmed by anything Aphex Twin
― ilm jive mind (FlopsyDuck), Friday, 5 July 2019 13:18 (six years ago)
One for the musical controp thread.
― pomenitul, Friday, 5 July 2019 13:22 (six years ago)
For maximum impact, that is.
SAWs I and II, and Polygon Window are nice... the rest, meh. Not my thing. SAW I though, so pretty. SAW II is just weird, it's like a book of ambient paint swatches. Good weird though, I like it a lot too.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 5 July 2019 14:01 (six years ago)
i do think the resurgence of ambient/new age has something to do with changing lifestyles, but at least in the US, it doesn't have to do with working fewer hours. if you click that link siegbran posted above with the weekly work hours data and then manually add the united states, we here in the greatest country on earth are going in the opposite direction of europe, with more and more weekly work hours since the 1960s.
however, i do think work has something to do with it. at work, i listen to almost exclusively instrumental music, much of it "ambient". when i'm on the bus or train to and from work and i'm able to get a seat, i listen to ambient while i read. ambient is my work and reading music, and it's easier than ever these days to do make that happen via streaming. maybe more and more people are catching on to that? beats me.
but obviously there's more going on to the resurgence than just work. part of it is probably just the cyclical nature of taste
― i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Friday, 5 July 2019 16:33 (six years ago)
Ambient is great for office work, it rewards inattention, the hours accommodate listening to long-form works, and bonus: sometimes people come to your office and don't realize there's music playing but get disturbed by the "weird noises" and leave you alone.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 5 July 2019 16:41 (six years ago)
interesting how it ends up being a class thing
― budo jeru, Friday, 5 July 2019 16:49 (six years ago)
working retail I just had to hear Coldplay and the National over and over
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 5 July 2019 17:12 (six years ago)
you guys, it's the "self care" epidemic amongst people who have time to even pencil in a yoga class between hustles. or is the "sound bath" an older phenomenon than I'm aware of?
― maffew12, Friday, 5 July 2019 17:16 (six years ago)
new age as a genre has had the self-care element since the 70s, although they didn't call it that then
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 5 July 2019 17:17 (six years ago)
xp it's really a shame how thoughtless the sound design is in most public / commercial spaces
― budo jeru, Friday, 5 July 2019 17:20 (six years ago)
true.in all seriousness though, yoga with no music is the best yoga.
― maffew12, Friday, 5 July 2019 17:20 (six years ago)
i completely agree. the urbanized world sounds like shit
― i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Friday, 5 July 2019 17:22 (six years ago)
i feel really fortunate that i get to pick my own music at work. it's one of the only reasons that keeps me at this otherwise nauseating job. unfortunately, though, putting on ambient would mean i wouldn't hear 98% of what was playing (kitchens are loud) and it would also be sort of unacceptable / not super morale boosting. i think that partly explains why i have a lot more to say here about the stooges and ac/dc and not so much harold budd
― budo jeru, Friday, 5 July 2019 17:23 (six years ago)
consider open headphones or ear clips?similar situation here. A delicate balance.
― maffew12, Friday, 5 July 2019 17:25 (six years ago)
i mean you just cannot be a line cook and wear headphones
― budo jeru, Friday, 5 July 2019 17:28 (six years ago)