Van der Graaf Generator / Peter Hammill S& D, C or D?

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with VdGG I'd say say Still Life first, followed by Pawn Hearts, but they represent two different versions of the band and every fan has their own favourite era. And then there's Hammill's solo stuff which is glorious in whole different ways...

― I Supersize Disaster (noodle vague), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 00:52 (nineteen years ago)

does that ho'mail address work, mister?

― I Supersize Disaster (noodle vague), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 00:53 (nineteen years ago)

it does indeed, sah!

― Obvious Ninja (Haberdager), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 00:55 (nineteen years ago)

i still need to get Fool's Mate.... any word on remastering his other solo albums? there are so many of them and I only have them all as mp3s...

― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 01:04 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.sofasound.com/

is usually the best place to check for news.

LJ i am drunkenly flailing at emails. eventually one might get thru.

― I Supersize Disaster (noodle vague), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 01:07 (nineteen years ago)

did you not copy-and-paste my handle? ;-)

― Obvious Ninja (Haberdager), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 01:11 (nineteen years ago)

The fault is my end and my sausage fingers and sausagemeat brain. Anyway, check yr mail in about an hour *emotiwink*

― I Supersize Disaster (noodle vague), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 01:12 (nineteen years ago)

Like about now.

― I Supersize Disaster (noodle vague), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 02:16 (nineteen years ago)

Jeez, the whole album? Wow, cheers! Your generosity shall not be forgotten...

― Obvious Ninja (Haberdager), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 02:27 (nineteen years ago)

Johnny Rotten liked this band?

*promises to listen to NMTBHTSP after VdGG*

― Obvious Ninja (Haberdager), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 02:40 (nineteen years ago)

I dunno the extent to which Lydon followed VdGG. If I'm remembering my history right, he bigged up Hammill as opposed to the band. Hammill released Nadir's Big Chance in 75, it's often described as his punk album. (It's no more or less Punk than the next couple of solo albums he released. I feel plenty of lyrical/vocal similarities with Lydon.)

― I Supersize Disaster (noodle vague), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 02:49 (nineteen years ago)

someone here mentioned Hammill's "Over" lp? One of the greatest break-up albums ever. and yes, "vision" is so good.

― Marco Damiani (Marco D.), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 06:34 (nineteen years ago)

I've only ever listened to the 1st VDGG album, which I liked, it's more psych than prog though (which is probably why I liked it).

Nadir's Big Chance is great - if his other solo albums are similar it's about time I gave them a try as well. *mental note to get on SoulSeek tonight...

― Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 06:53 (nineteen years ago)

Nadir's Big Chance is great - if his other solo albums are similar it's about time I gave them a try as well

They aren't

― dud Hab 'C' dEva (Dada), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 08:14 (nineteen years ago)

The Future Now and pH7 aren't wildly dissimilar. You might wanna check those next, Colonel. Or go straight to Jaxon's Saxes of Doom with ver Van der Graaf.

― I Supersize Disaster (noodle vague), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 08:44 (nineteen years ago)

Chance discovery - VdGG's "A Place to Survive" = Laurie Anderson's "From the Air".

― I Supersize Disaster (noodle vague), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 09:16 (nineteen years ago)

any word on remastering his other solo albums? there are so many of them and I only have them all as mp3s...

The three albums after Fool's Mate were due for a re-issue and then yanked from schedule for some reason - I'm quite sure I saw them advertised in a mag along with one batch of VDGG re-issues, but then nothing. I have seen promo copies of the remasters with bonus tracks on eBay, minus the finished artwork.

― LC (Damian), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 11:30 (nineteen years ago)

The other day somebody told me my guitar playing reminded him of Peter Hammill's solo stuff. That came out of left field for me.

Anybody care to rank his solo stuff?

― Edward III (edward iii), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 12:06 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not good with ranking. My favourite five are probly: Fool's Mate, The Future Now, Nadir's Last Chance, A Black Box, Enter K.

― I Supersize Disaster (noodle vague), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 12:12 (nineteen years ago)

as reported on nuILX, the first batch of Hammill remasters are out sept. 28 in the UK (through Nadir's). The next four are out later this year.

― kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 2 September 2006 17:08 (nineteen years ago)

six months pass...

I need to go to FOPP and see if the remasters are £5 yet.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 23 March 2007 01:33 (nineteen years ago)

ilx be goin' prog CRAZY tonight! :-D

― unfished business, Friday, 23 March 2007 01:44 (nineteen years ago)

or a couple of people are.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 23 March 2007 01:59 (nineteen years ago)

or were

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 23 March 2007 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

still crazy after all these hours

― unfished business, Friday, 23 March 2007 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

I've got the remasters of the early period. Are the new versions of Godbluff/Still Life/World Record worth getting, in terms of sound quality or bonus tracks? (I'll probably end up buying them someday anyway.)

― todd, Friday, 23 March 2007 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

Does anyone else think "Afterwards" is a very underrated song?

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Monday, 26 March 2007 14:46 (nineteen years ago)

It's nice. I like that early pop-psych phase. Kind of like the first couple of Yes albums. Easily the best song on that album, tho.

― Noodle Vague, Monday, 26 March 2007 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, Easily. But there's another couple of really good songs on the album though.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Monday, 26 March 2007 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

The version of "Darkness" on the BBC bootleg is fabulous. There's a bit where Hugh holds down this organ chord for a year. And then later on Jaxon blows some mentalist solo.

― Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 28 March 2007 11:08 (nineteen years ago)

four months pass...

I love MAIDA VALE. It's BBC sessions. Can't recommend it enough.

― chaki, Friday, 3 August 2007 19:34 (eighteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

Saturday Morning = BLASTING VdGG

― Noodle Vague, Saturday, 18 August 2007 11:50 (eighteen years ago)

Peter Hammill interview in the Terrorizer prog special, jim.

― Herman G. Neuname, Saturday, 18 August 2007 11:56 (eighteen years ago)

Sweet. Thanx Herman.

― Noodle Vague, Saturday, 18 August 2007 11:58 (eighteen years ago)

Thread about it here Anyone got Terrorizer Prog Rock Special (part 1)? actually.

― Herman G. Neuname, Saturday, 18 August 2007 12:02 (eighteen years ago)

Tony Iommi's looking well.

― Noodle Vague, Saturday, 18 August 2007 12:02 (eighteen years ago)

one month passes...

"La Rossa" is the most demented trawl thru un- or barely-requited love that anybody ever wrote. I'm listening to some bootleg versions that end with the band carpet-bombing every fragile emotion you ever thought you might've had.

― Noodle Vague, Saturday, 22 September 2007 12:34 (eighteen years ago)

I mean, for alleged prog musicians, these boys were only interested in rocking the fuck out and bringing the terror back in the 70s.

― Noodle Vague, Saturday, 22 September 2007 12:36 (eighteen years ago)

I need to find lots of cheap VdGG real soon. The 'Killer' riff popped into my head earlier today, under no provocation whatsoever.

― Just got offed, Saturday, 22 September 2007 12:42 (eighteen years ago)

Damn straight. The boots I've acquired thru t0rrentz are rilly interesting because the band play so rough. I kinda thought that Hammill's emphasis on the noize element when they reformed for Present was a bit revisionist but he was totally right: they played really loose and ferocious and flat-out noise.

― Noodle Vague, Saturday, 22 September 2007 12:45 (eighteen years ago)

Cool! I'll get my download-savvy brother on the case...

― Just got offed, Saturday, 22 September 2007 12:51 (eighteen years ago)

Really liked "Pawn Hearts". That's all I've heard so far.

― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 22 September 2007 12:52 (eighteen years ago)

Also according to Hammill's website there's a new 3-piece Van der Graaf album on the way. I've said before I'm disappointed they won't be working with Jaxon but I'm really looking forward to hearing this.

― Noodle Vague, Saturday, 22 September 2007 12:57 (eighteen years ago)

six months pass...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/30/Trisector.jpg

has anyone heard this yet?

― chaki, Thursday, 27 March 2008 21:57 (eighteen years ago)

two months pass...

No, but I want to.

Noodle Vague's online atm so now's a good time to say that while I was absent, Still Life became one of my favourite albums.

― Just got offed, Sunday, 1 June 2008 11:29 (eighteen years ago)

Still Life is still my fave, mate. Kind of sums up everything they went after, although perhaps, just perhaps, it's more Hammillcentric than the other rekkids. For a long time I wanted "Childlike Faith" played at my funeral, but now I recognise that people are essentially shallow fuckers so I've plumped for "Agadoo".

― Noodle Vague, Sunday, 1 June 2008 11:32 (eighteen years ago)

Hahaha! I think lyrically and conceptually it sums up a lot of thoughts I'm having at the moment. La Rossa and Childlike Faith especially. The former is a sort of "look at yourself, this is you" song, and I can't pay it a higher compliment than to say it actually affected the way I thought about myself. The latter has the most epic moment in 70's rock (barring maybe "Eclipse" from Yes' And You And I), namely the bit when Hammill sings "naked to the galaxies": at that moment my jaw drops and all is lucid

― Just got offed, Sunday, 1 June 2008 11:37 (eighteen years ago)

Alongside Will Oldham Hammill is the lyricist that speaks to me most closely about what goes on in my head. Early on that kind of overshadowed VdGG for me and I think it's easy to forget what a dope band they are and how much they bring to the table that you just don't get on PH's solo output.

Also I've just realised I haven't heard the new one yet, and whilst I alway mourn when Jaxon's not there, I think I need to put that right quick sharp.

― Noodle Vague, Sunday, 1 June 2008 11:39 (eighteen years ago)

Okay I put it right. This is some good shit. I wish Chaks was still here.

― Noodle Vague, Sunday, 1 June 2008 13:09 (eighteen years ago)

This is BANGIN'

― Noodle Vague, Sunday, 1 June 2008 13:11 (eighteen years ago)

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