Oasis - Classic or Dud?

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yes me too it touched me in ways my step dad couldn't......i have no idea what your talking about by the way

Dude (The Yellow Dart), Saturday, 24 January 2004 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

hooray!

doomies, Saturday, 24 January 2004 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Definition of DUD.

Jim Reckling (Jim Reckling), Saturday, 24 January 2004 01:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Tico Tico, was it you or Alex who in Frank's APA said that in the future people would hate "Definitely Maybe" the same way we know hate Pink Floyd's "The Wall"? Can you explain what was meant by these comments?

DV (dirtyvicar), Sunday, 25 January 2004 18:52 (twenty-two years ago)

i rather liked the Britpop thing UNTIL i saw Oasis live at Knebworth (between Morning Glory and Be Here Now). seeing them live, supported by Ocean Colour Scene and the Manic Street Preaches killed guitar music for me, for about 5 years.

nuff said.

searchanddelete, Sunday, 25 January 2004 19:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Tico Tico, was it you or Alex who in Frank's APA said that in the future people would hate "Definitely Maybe" the same way we know hate Pink Floyd's "The Wall"? Can you explain what was meant by these comments?

It wasn't me. I love The Wall.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 25 January 2004 19:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Who the fuck hates The Wall? That's, like, the best-produced album ever!!

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Sunday, 25 January 2004 19:41 (twenty-two years ago)

the U2 of indie.

RJG (RJG), Sunday, 25 January 2004 19:48 (twenty-two years ago)

it would have been Embra Alex - Alex in NYC was never in Frank's APA.

DV (dirtyvicar), Sunday, 25 January 2004 21:55 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't even know what Frank's APA is.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 26 January 2004 00:28 (twenty-two years ago)

'Who the fuck hates The Wall?'

Me. Bag of Shite.

pete s, Monday, 26 January 2004 00:40 (twenty-two years ago)

And it doesn't surprise me in the least that it's one of Noel's favourite albums. As the Ned-meister would say, 'So much is suddenly clear'.

pete s, Monday, 26 January 2004 00:42 (twenty-two years ago)

*bows*

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 26 January 2004 00:46 (twenty-two years ago)

"Definitely Maybe" is a great little rock album, tight and focused.
"Whats the Story Morning Glory" is full of filler and overproduced.

Best thing they ever did : "Some Might Say" (UK cd single) - the title track, "Acquiesce", "Talk Tonight" (Noel's best acoustic thingy) and "Headshrinker". Perfect.

Everything after Morning Glory is poo, frankly...

David Nolan (David N.), Monday, 26 January 2004 01:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Best thing they ever did : "Some Might Say" (UK cd single)

I agree hands down. Not one step misplaced on that one.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 26 January 2004 01:26 (twenty-two years ago)

It might have been both of us DV. If it was Definitely Maybe then I'm not sure what we meant. If it was What's The Story then it was probably just a really crapulent album that everybody at the time was buying.

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Monday, 26 January 2004 10:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, the second album would have been better if they didn't have to pull the Stevie Wonder rip off track a week before release, stuck on the other 3 Some Might Say cd single tracks and left off a couple of the crap ones like She's Electric. It would have been ideal for them then to have broken up in 96.

David Gunnip (David Gunnip), Monday, 26 January 2004 12:30 (twenty-two years ago)

The thing is, looking back on 1996 in particular, it seems amazing now to think of quite how HUGE they were. I mean, they dominated everything like no other UK band has done since - they were on the front pages of the tabloids pretty much once a week (alternating with Di and Gazza, obviously) - now I find myself forgetting they're even still around.

Definitely Maybe had some good songs on it, but I'm still coming down on the side of dud. Never saw what was supposed to be so great about Liam's voice.

Classic if only for the interviews, mind.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 26 January 2004 12:38 (twenty-two years ago)

does anyone else think 'Songbird' is ALRIGHT?

stevem (blueski), Monday, 26 January 2004 12:49 (twenty-two years ago)

I could probably fill one side of a C60 with Oasis songs I liked. Their offensiveness as a band was completely disproportionately small compared to the stuff they inspired. Since 2000 I've found ignoring them to be far easier than people are making out; I can't imagine *any* of my friends saying, "Ooh, I wonder what the new Oasis album is going to sound like."

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Monday, 26 January 2004 12:56 (twenty-two years ago)

a friend of mine bought a post Be Here Now Wasis album because someone on ILX said it was good. He blames me for this mistake.

DV (dirtyvicar), Monday, 26 January 2004 13:18 (twenty-two years ago)

can't decide if 'Little By Little' is worse than 'Sunday Morning Call' or not - definitely their two worst singles and by some distance

stevem (blueski), Monday, 26 January 2004 13:30 (twenty-two years ago)

One of the first bands I got into, so can't really claim to hate them, though I bought none of their stuff after 'Morning Glory,' which I never liked.

The image (if you care about that sort've thing) - Utterly boring

This is missing the point, which was that Oasis were like the crowd up on stage. Plus it wasn't that boring, they had an air of menace -- in the UK.
They weren't 'indie' but they came out of indie 'culture' (ie NME readers, Evening Session listeners). Croation wasn't a 'real' indie by that point, but it was more indie than Columbia, shall we say.

Enrique (Enrique), Monday, 26 January 2004 13:45 (twenty-two years ago)

sorry stevem 'Go Let It Out' is, and and always will be their worst single. It was also the moment, when I saw the vid on smtv, at which i gave up on them for good.
(i like Sunday Morning Call tho)

pete s, Monday, 26 January 2004 14:01 (twenty-two years ago)

All Around The World is their worst!

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Monday, 26 January 2004 14:04 (twenty-two years ago)

No All Around the World is flatulent and cliched and overlong and decadent, but its not rubbish. I know this makes no sense.

pete s, Monday, 26 January 2004 14:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Tico OTM. The key change. The Richard Ashcroft backing vocals. PH34R.

Enrique (Enrique), Monday, 26 January 2004 14:09 (twenty-two years ago)

OH GOD THE KEY CHANGE

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Monday, 26 January 2004 14:10 (twenty-two years ago)

"air of menace" haha if you know the true story behind the newcastle riverside "riot"

Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 26 January 2004 14:11 (twenty-two years ago)

two months pass...
All Around The World is worst if only cos of the video.

I'm reading John Harris' not-very-good Last Party right now which prompted me to revive this thread.

Venga, Wednesday, 21 April 2004 17:53 (twenty-two years ago)

"The Last Party" is a really good book and Oasis (for first two albums, B-sides, "Whatever" EP, "Don't go Away"/ "Who Feels Love"/ "Hindu Times"/ "Stop Crying" are CLASSIC.

CRW (CRW), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 18:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Damn. Sorry folks.

Venga, Wednesday, 21 April 2004 18:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Watching a bit of some crappy documentary about '10 years of Oasis' on telly last night, I was reminded of something that always puzzled me a bit about them. They had some footage of Liam facing up to a photographer or someone, in a kind of OTT, eyeball-to-eyeball, poking fingers kind of way. This kind of performance always struck me as a completely ridiculous pose, somehow even more ridiculous than someone like Brett Anderson waving his arse around and pretending to be a bohemian bisexual. I've come to terms a bit with glammy poseurs, but the loutish aggressive pose still sticks in my craw a bit, esp. that anyone would fall for it. Am I wrong to think it was all a pose? Was it real somehow? Was he angry? What about? That question isn't necessarily answered by whether or not he would have acted in the same way down the pub had he not been famous.

N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 18:24 (twenty-two years ago)

I bet Liam would nut you for that. I reckon he's a tough son of a gun!

CRW (CRW), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 18:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Dud, Dud, Dud, Dud, Dud!
Apart from 'She's Electric'.

Jamie Fake (the pirate king), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 19:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Search
Acquiesce
Talk Tonight
It's Better People
Roll With It
Supersonic
Listen Up

57 7th (calstars), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 20:07 (twenty-two years ago)

two years pass...
Regardless of what you think about Oasis, can someone please watch this , specifically at the 3:50 and 5:02 marks, and tell me what the hell happened?

Zachary Scott (Zach S), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 17:46 (nineteen years ago)

it sounds like Liam is doing the 'muh-nuh muh-nuh' bit of the Muppets song

2 american 4 u (blueski), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 17:53 (nineteen years ago)

i lost respect for Noel long ago but still enjoy his level of candidness in interviews, even if/when he is wrong

2 american 4 u (blueski), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 17:56 (nineteen years ago)

All Around The World is worst if only cos of the video.

Haha, my best mate's dad directed it!

chap who would dare to welcome our new stingray masters (chap), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 17:57 (nineteen years ago)

(The animated parts at least. Apparently his brief was simply 'make it as much like Yellow Submarine as possible'.)

chap who would dare to welcome our new stingray masters (chap), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 17:59 (nineteen years ago)

it sounds like Liam is doing the 'muh-nuh muh-nuh' bit of the Muppets song


dying over here

wordy rappinghood (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 18:10 (nineteen years ago)

I really can't stop watching it. I'm not shocked that Liam sings badly live, but really. Really? REALLY?!

wordy rappinghood (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 18:23 (nineteen years ago)

Back in the sad, sad, days, I owned their live album, Familiar to Millions. From 2000 or 2001 I think. He didn't sound anything like he does now. Maybe Noel secretly punched him in the neck or something. He sounds like he's impersonating someone else impersonating him, drunkly.

Zachary Scott (Zach S), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 18:55 (nineteen years ago)

I'm making it our homepage.

wordy rappinghood (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 19:04 (nineteen years ago)

I'm making it our homepage.

The whole thing, or just the singing bits?

Zachary Scott (Zach S), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 19:07 (nineteen years ago)

the whole thing.

"never forget"

wordy rappinghood (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 19:14 (nineteen years ago)

Has coke fucked up his nose that much he now sings like that? Christ. WTF has happened?

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 19:22 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe he can't hear himself?

wordy rappinghood (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 19:26 (nineteen years ago)

why does it say "oasis yeti" at the beginning?

wordy rappinghood (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 19:27 (nineteen years ago)


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