Killing Joke - Classic Or Dud, Search And Destroy

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Don't worry my KJ Brothers and Sisters- after reading this Dr C's posts I have unleashed a 7 year curse his way. Sometimes you gotta learn the hard way. Don't cross the Joke

Adam Helfer, Sunday, 25 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I'm shitting myself.

Dr. C, Monday, 26 March 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Poor Dr. C, cursed not to have to listen to bombastic 80's crap like Jaz Coleman's ranting.

I pity him so.

Nicole, Monday, 26 March 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Oh Nicole, when will you learn to HONOUR THE FIRE for there is NONE MIGHTIER. You may mock, but in time you will learn the hard way that the Joke are not to be crossed lightly.

I'm getting into this..

Nick Dastoor, Monday, 26 March 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

A few years ago, during a period when I spent far too much time wandering about doing nothing much, I invented a game, a sort of street AICON, in which I'd attempt to guess which band T-shirt the person walking towards me would be wearing. I rapidly came to the conclusion that there were only three sets of fans I could recognise with any certainty: Chumbawamba, New Model Army and Killing Joke. Never having heard the latter, I've just done as Nick F suggested and went to the Last Laugh website (noting that my mouse trail suddenly said "confirm your worst fears") and downloaded a couple of the videos. I wouldn't associate KJ with the (dread) word twee, but ...Fire Dances features a couple of girls with white knee socks and Mary Janes! As for the music... really, really, really not my thing. Sorry, dud.

Madchen, Monday, 26 March 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Hmmm, if it's not your "sort of thing", why feel compelled to pass judgement on something you have little interest in. Bizarre. If you can dismiss a bands worthiness on the face of a couple of promo videos, it's your very much your loss. You are the weakest link, goodbye.

The Jester, Monday, 26 March 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Does this mean Ann Robinson HONOURS THE FIRE?

Nicole, Monday, 26 March 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

In the true spirit of fair play and the utilization of the freedom of information, it should be noted that Nicole (she above who is taking great pleasure in lambasting the Joke) is, by her very own admission (seek ye the "Introduce Yourselves" board) a fan of Destiny's Child. With the utmost respect to all parties involved, I personally would imagine that this absolves her of the burden of credibility in the musical taste department. This is not a personal slight (as I've never met the woman), but merely an obsevation for the benefit of those whose opinions of Killing Joke might be swayed by that which they read here. To her credit, she also likes the estimable Nick Cave and Talk Talk (but how she reconciles them with childish pabulum Destiny's Child I'll never know). Killing Joke is a classic. Destiny's Child is a dud. Honor the Fire! - AlexinNYC

Alex in NYC, Monday, 26 March 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Destiny's Child: classic. Killing Joke: dud. Honor the bugaboo!

Sterling Clover, Monday, 26 March 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Having been to the 'Last Laugh' website, I'm surprised you KJ fans recommend it, as there's a small library of press articles which might as well be entitled 'Why Not To Like Killing Joke, Specifically Because That Coleman Fellow Is An Utter Prat'. Heh heh heh..

DG, Monday, 26 March 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

even i have to agree with that.

The Last Laugh, Friday, 30 March 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

but a talented prat none the less.

, Wednesday, 4 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Alex: I'm not gonna dis you on the internet, because my momma taught me better than that. But the Joke is another kettle of fish.

Nicole, Wednesday, 4 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Who the fuck are Killing Joke ?

Geordie Racer, Thursday, 5 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Who the fuck is Geordie Racer?

Alex in NYC, Sunday, 8 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

two months pass...
I like muesli.

Trubshaw, Wednesday, 20 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

seven months pass...
"http://thepolywog.com/copshootcop/posters/images/livedemo-01.jpg"

Alex in NYC, Thursday, 7 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

You mean this, right?

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 7 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Hiya Ned, sorry...inspired by that thread about how to post pictures (which I don't know how to do), I'm practicing here on a thread that seemed long since abandoned. Pardonez-moi. If you know how, I'd love to learn!

Trying again:

http://thepolywog.com/copshootcop/posters/images/livedemo-01.jpg

Alex in NYC, Thursday, 7 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

If anyone gets this far down here, I just wanna say "What's THIS For.." is quite an amazing record, as are moments on "Killing Joke", "Revelations", and "Fire Dance". There are also some good rarities on various compilations... like "Me or You", which completely invented The VSS, and other new wave/gothed out pretty hardcore bands today.

Martyn Atkins has some interesting things to say about Jaz....

Brian MacDonald, Thursday, 7 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

My own thoughts on ...what's THIS for... here. And quite positive thoughts they are too. ;-)

To Alex -- okay, looks like what you're trying to do is put a picture here rather than create a link, correct? You've got the address, but you're not putting in the right HTML tags to make it work. Do this instead:

http://thepolywog.com/copshootcop/posters/images/livedemo- 01.jpg

Now, I've added extra spaces here so you can see the code -- when you try it, remove the space before IMG, both spaces on either side of the equal sign, and the final space between the end quote mark and the end caret. That should result in presenting the image as a post.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

If anything, Killing Joke are/were a gothed out stomping glam rock band. The drums owe so much to Cozy Powell, Sweet, and other early 70s Chinn/Chapman rock.

Brian MacDonald, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

IMG SRC= http://www.maliciousdamage.com/gallery/jaz/jaz86.htm

alex in nyc, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

IMG SRC="http://www.maliciousdamage.com/gallery/jaz/jaz86.htm"

Trying again, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

http://www.maliciousdamage.com/gallery/jaz/jaz86.htm

Last attempt., Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

gotta put brackets around the source of the JPG, Alex ... like so (peak the code!)

http://www.maliciousdamage.com/gallery/jaz/jaz86.htm

Tadeusz Suchodolski, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

AAAGH!!! Don't listen to me then! :-0

Tadeusz Suchodolski, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

http://www.maliciousdamage.com/gallery/band/band83lag.GIF

Alex in NYC, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Oh MAN! IT WORKS!

Alex in NYC, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

http://www.maliciousdamage.com/gallery/jaz/jaz80mike.JPG

Alex in NYC, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Hurrah for Alex! ONE OF US.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Thanks, Ned!!!! Coulda done it without you. May the rest of ILM tremble......

Alex in NYC, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Whoops, that shoulda read: COULDN'T have done..etc.etc.

Alex in NYC, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Jaz Coleman looks like some diabolical cross between Lou Reed and Syd Barrett in those pix. And I mean that as a compliment, of course!

Tadeusz Suchodolski, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

yeah, i love that pic.

Alex in NYC, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

AAAAGGGH! There is none mightier! Don't cross The Joke!

Only joking, Alex ;)

Dr. C, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

This thread is historic for two reasons:

1) It's basically a proto-type for Jay-Z-Nas-Throwdown, innit? Except all the nutters are on the same side.

2) I'm not sure, but this may be the first recorded case of Alex in NYC using the word "pabulum" on ILM.

I wuv this board so.

Tim, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

And a sensible answer from FatNick! Under his proper name, no less.

DG, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I'm gonna be a geek and revert to discussion topic--apparently when Jaz was a wee lad studying at the Royal Conservatory, someone proclaimed him the next Mahler. That and Youth's production on Crowded House's last album was truly beeautiful.

Mickey Black Eyes, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

One of them there Killing Joke folks is responsible for a smattering of truly horrendous "symphonic interpretations of rock band's greatest hits" CDs, yes? (There's that interpreted Led Zeppelin CD sitting in the Circuit City racks, collecting all sorts of dust...)

Not that this means I loathe / love the Joke, mind you. The one clip I heard @ Amazon this morning (whilst shopping) didn't do much for me, except make me giggle a bit. (I'm on antibiotics, though, so don't mind me if I laugh @ inappropriate times.)

David Raposa, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Mr Raposa, I gotta say that that was a piss-poor job you did of HONOURING the fire, there.

John Darnielle, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

...and, moreover, that what seemed a rather funny remark while typing now looks flatter than a pancake. Sorry.

John Darnielle, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Yeah, John. You almost made me cry, you meanie.

For the record, information on the offending symphonic records (aided & abetted by a Mr. Jaz "Not Pazz" Coleman) can be found here. And here. AND here. AAAAAAAAAAND ... oh, just check his list of credits. (Working for Disney - how's that for HONOURING THE FIRE!?!)

David Raposa, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Mr Raposa, may I commend you for your exemplary work above at the all-important task of HONOURING THE FIRE. Bravo.

Anybody up for forming a band with me called the Fire Honourers? I'll play drums.

John Darnielle, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I'll play kazoo AND triangle.

David Raposa, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

ooh, ooh...i wanna play washtub bass!

(ain't no hole in the washtub, jess.)

this thread took 25 minutes of my life and i want it baaaaack.

jess, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

You cheeky bastards will all get yours, just you wait! ;)

http://www.maliciousdamage.com/gallery/jaz/jaz83.JPG

Alex in NYC, Saturday, 9 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

So can we put you down for the kazoo, then?

John Darnielle, Saturday, 9 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

seven months pass...
http://www.an-irrational-domain.net/images/yotd3.jpg

I'm just reviving this thread, because I think the time for the return of the Joke is close at hand! Discuss.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 30 September 2002 15:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

surely jaz is gazing on a vast white statue of michael jackson and saying "we're not worthy we're not worthy"?

mark s (mark s), Monday, 30 September 2002 15:40 (twenty-one years ago) link


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