Sleater-Kinney breaks up

I just rewatched the Fallon thing again with someone and he was like, why is Carrie singing so much and he had so forgotten how much lead Carrie had sang before. But yeah I don't like the preprogrammed performance gestures.

They didn't even have a camera on Janet for any sort of close up.

Forgot about Juana Molina!! This is reminding me how little I like comedy.

I'm not super familiar w/S-K (it's been ages since I saw them live), but I just watched that Fallon perf., and it does very much feel like "band awkwardly shoehorned into a new look/sound." I can also see why a freewheeling drummer may not be psyched at the prospect of an entire tour playing that beat.

I feel like Rollins is a weird example, his whole persona was everything, the music, the books, the spoken word

... acting, the record label

That Fallon performance is some real

https://youtu.be/Q2VqAH90h6s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2VqAH90h6s&feature=youtu.be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2VqAH90h6s

"I can also see why a freewheeling drummer may not be psyched at the prospect of an entire tour playing that beat."

Janet is an exceptionally great drummer but I don't know that I ever thought of her as 'freewheeling'. She always struck me as rather precise and deliberate.

The beat in the verse is more tricky and unorthodox and strange than these posts are giving her credit for, but yeah, I can't imagine its especially fun to play

We’ll have to buy Carrie’s second book to learn the real story

xxxp i would even say uptight

It's a cool linear, programmed-esque beat, yeah. It's exactly the sort of thing I find fun to play, way more fun than fast rock n' roll with lots of fills. But maybe she doesn't.

Whiney clearly studying SK drum patterns closely. Worth an audition at least, surely?

Wasn't Letterman a drummer too?

He never lost his fascination with drums & who they belong to:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M65Dx0STe2M

Also ... drummer week!

lmao this letterman video, fuck

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im assuming that pulsing dot is their new drummer

ROLAND Returns!

How long til they start photoshopping Janet out of band photos

Surprised how few likes that post got, I had the impression they were huuuge

I think it's too obscure to get much of a response.

einsturzende-kinney

Maybe they're scrapping the album to rework it as an industrial project.

Just got email announcing Quasi is going on a quick tour in October.

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/jul/28/sleater-kinney-the-center-wont-hold-interview

Bravo.

Brave.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTZXBmRaQtw

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/31/arts/music/sleater-kinney-st-vincent.html

Hmm. There are some curious red flags in that story. Citing the presence of a Gucci bag, the group crediting a band "designer," Brownstein deciding to put more energy toward the band only after her Hulu pilot didn't get picked up, Clark being really involved with lyrics and writing and arrangements (which is sort of ultimately the biggest complaint someone like Albini has with the concept of a "producer"). I don't know if we'll ever get a straight answer, but I assume one day it will at least be more clear why Weiss left. lol at Brownstein saying they should have called the album "Let's Stay Together."

"They wanted the album to sound “really gross,” Tucker, in contrasting lacy white, said, as her collaborators mmm-hmmmed in affirmation. “Like, disgusting, dirty, gross, dusty.” She went to a Depeche Mode show and got absorbed by synths; Clark and Brownstein saw Nine Inch Nails, and heard industrial."

They succeeded - all the songs so far do sound "really gross"

reading between the lines i'm starting to think they wanted to style the shit out of this tour and janet wasn't into it.

feels like the real story is still under wraps

”She went to a Depeche Mode show and got absorbed by synths; Clark and Brownstein saw Nine Inch Nails, and heard industrial.”

it's wild how Sleater-Kinney sold out by being in the presence of a Gucci bag owned by someone not in the band.

Like, for the first time in their lives? No way could that be the case.

It’s totally possible: the article isn’t saying they’d never heard either band before.

(yes it’s weird framing & might not be at all precise, but eg I actively love hours of music by each band, and have seen a grand total of four minutes combined concerts by both)

Sorry to be unclear; I’m just talking about the phrase “heard industrial.”

Reads pretty clear - that's what they 'heard' in their heads as they headed to the studio.

The new single sounds like they heard "We Are Young" instead of NIN though.

I would love to hear Sleater-Kinney make their Second Annual Report

slimy goth rock, though - it's not right is it

yeah, milo otm

I just re-listened to the album "No Cities To Love", and all that time I've wished for a sequel to Rush's "Grace Under Pressure", the damn thing was right there the whole time. There are obvious commonalities, like the guitars in the intro and post-chorus to "Price Tag" echoing the same sections of "The Body Electric"; the occasional controlled-wailing Geddyisms a la "Red Sector A" ("No-ohh!") in the vocals; the abrasive guitars but better because it's like 2 Lifesons (and the descending riff that opens "Surface Envy" reminds me of Alex's similarly-descending riff in the bridge of "Distant Early Warning"); post-punk/disco rhythms that pop in and out - is Janet Weiss the Neil Peart of our generation?; Anthem Records vs "No Anthems", etc.

But a lot of it, at least to my ears, is a similar essence that I can't quite explain, it's just *there*.

Now I know what I want to listen to right now (hint: not the S-K album).

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/janet-weiss-sleater-kinney-interview-podcast-915033/

“I said, ‘Am I just the drummer now?’ They said yes. And I said, ‘Can you tell me if I am still a creative equal in the band?’ And they said no. So, I left.”

Weiss also expressed reluctance to perform songs from The Center Won’t Hold — an album that lacked the drummer’s usual contributions — on a tour in support of the St. Vincent-produced LP; following Weiss’ exit, Angie Boylan has stepped in as Sleater-Kinney’s drummer on tour.

“The new record was made sort of without me and it would have been challenging to get up there on stage and deliver those songs like they were mine, when they weren’t mine at all. It just got real lonely for me,” Weiss said.

This confirms a takeaway I had from the new live show, wherein they're playing the whole album (plus a new A-Side single) making for both 1/3 of the set and something she wouldn't have enjoyed doing night after night.

i skipped out on the show this weekend. I like the album, don't love it, it takes up most of the setlist, and this all left a slightly bad taste in my mouth. saw a youtube vid of an earlier show and it was fine, but , eh.

I love the new record, but skipped the tour. From the clips I've seen, Angie Boylan plays more behind-the-beat than Janet. Songs don't lift off the ground like they used to. There's no agitation anymore. There doesn't have to be, but that was part of why I loved S-K.

This tour's getting a pretty positive reception, overall; so did the Who's first tour without Keith Moon.

A lot of the older songs were very thrashy, very Punk w/Boylan.