Pavement:Classic or Dud

it was listed on the setlist as "punk song".

There’s nothing like that early Pavement sound.

The best. Slanted and Enchanted remains my favorite record I ever bought the year it came out.

https://i.imgur.com/i0pU1FC.png

My dream is for one day my office phone to ring with a local investment broker on the other end. "Holy shit," she'll say before hanging up.

Arkansas Business: for when you need this corporation attitude

Anyone know Marty's connection to the band? Is he just a fan? (Talk about lolrandom...)

Dude looks like a 'head: https://www.arkansasbusiness.com/staff/marty-cook

man i wanna drive to Prairie Grove and high-five Marty in person

Someone send him an email

Please don't. :-)

Marty is very busy. I'll give him all your love at the next staff meeting.

I'll take the bait...

A fan of Social Dist...ortion

Perhaps my favorite song. The girls know it is against Cook Law to speak during Social Distortion

— Marty Cook (@TheCajunSloth) March 15, 2020

Like Malkmus, he has daughters who are into Billie "The Saint" Eillish, compare:

Thanks to my 12yo daughter I not only know who she is, I hear her songs approximately 500 times a day

— Marty Cook (@TheCajunSloth) December 3, 2019

(Kids redacted) pic.twitter.com/wRF6TSLrBn

— Stephen malkmus (@dronecoma) December 11, 2018

That's all I got, I leave further explorations to the more skilled internet detectives.

I WORK WITH THE GUY SO I CAN FIND OUT WHATEVER YOU WANT, PM ME.

Marty, not Malkmus.

Sorry to dox yr coworker, pplains...

That Billie pic reminds me of when Malk said in an interview that Lorde owes him a favor (in return for something unspecified).

Feel like I'm gonna owe Marty a favor.

Marty graduated Mizzou '93? Bet he was at that Big Star tent show.

He wasn't.

(I know this because I WaS ThErE ~!)

Can’t say I’ve seen much Pavement fan art, but hard to imagine it getting much worse than this: https://www.etsy.com/listing/783996565/pavement-inspired-illustration

https://www.etsy.com/listing/778280777/radiohead-inspired-watercolour-paintings?ref=shop_home_active_11&frs=1

Weeshed otm

pavement really does sound like that though

the other ones are pretty funny but I can't tell how much of it is intentional

the bob marley one, ohhhh

Thought this thread revival would be about Scott reviving the band's IG for quarantine-nostalgia:

https://www.instagram.com/pavementband/

sweet account. those 7"s look great

Hey, has anyone ever heard the song “David’s Gone,” which was on a cassette comp called Nostalgic Glimpse of a Victorian Country Childhood?

Around 20 years ago, I was in an eBay bidding war for the tape, and was kind of relieved to lose out at the last second (as the $$ had gotten pretty high). The winner was really cool – he mailed me a CD-R with the track burned as some kind of audio file, but I was never able to get it to play.

...guess not(?) Bueller?

Anyhoo - I never realized there was a diff btw. "Summer Babe" and "Summer Babe (Winter Version)" - or at least I figured the differences were too subtle to notice (and that this was kind of "the joke") - tho I'm listening to them back-to-back now (Drag City comp vs. S&E), and the vocal is definitely flatter on the LP mix. What's the story behind the different mixes, anyway (...and is this something I could figure out for myself if I got off my @ss & flipped back thru the Luxe & Reduxe booklet or the Jovanovic book)?

Hey, I never noticed the keyboard(?) deep in the mix under the "From now on..." section of "Loretta's Scars."(??)

I cannot get over how good this album still sounds.

"David's Gone" was passed around in the very early days of either alt.music.pavement or the pavement.listserv but yeah that's an almost 30yo relic that's essentially a silver jews rarity (dime map quality just less DCB). I can't remember a single thing about the song tbqh.

Thanks for the intel (I wondered if DCB was the titular David).

I've espoused many times about the "lo-fi" tag being misaligned to Slanted & Enchanted, such as here:

C or D : Guided By Voices.

One thing that kind of bothers me about Pavement's "lo-fi" distinction is that they recorded everything up to Crooked Rain at Gary Young's original studio that had a 24-track MCI console which if you are familiar with is approximately the size (132"x41"x38") of ~200 Tascam 424s (18"x14"x4") such as the ones actually used by GBV, Sebadoh, Silver Jews, et.al. Slanted & Enchanted is extremely hi-fi compared to Alistair Galbraith or The Grifters music from the same period.

maybe pix would be better:

https://www.google.com/search?q=mci+jh-636&tbm=isch

vs.

https://www.google.com/search?q=tascam+424&tbm=isch

lo fi by preference vs lo fi by necessity?

Listening to S&Eon headphones last night, I reflected how it’s an album like Murmur — as great as the songs are, the production (sometimes slighted as “murky, lo-fi,” etc.) is a very deliberate & key creative aspect of what makes it the album it is. The same songs, recorded differently, wouldn’t have the same impact or mystique... you can hear how the other mix of “Summer Babe” doesn’t quite have that feel.

I’m writing crappily this morning (and I guess it’s not a revelation that the production is key for any great album), but you probably get me...

aw I wanna hear this "David Gone's" song

I would listen to it in two weeks on the one-year anniversary of his being gone.

I've definitely never thought of S&E as lo-fi in sound like Eric's Trip or someone - is it seen that way? It's a fairly big, dynamic, clear-sounding rock album. Slackerish in terms of playing and singing, yes.

its range of frequencies of relatively limited, but there's a lot going on within that narrow range

Well it doesn’t have any low end ...

not true! spiral's guitar is run through a guitar amp & a bass cab on loretta's scars:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHIw74zVmaA

speaking of...

Hey, I never noticed the keyboard(?) deep in the mix under the "From now on..." section of "Loretta's Scars."(??)

― Your dream has symbolic content (morrisp), Monday, July 20, 2020 10:11 PM (yesterday)

Oberheim OB-8

Yeah, it's not a Bob Rock production or anything. I just don't think it sounds like what actual lo-fi gear would have delivered in the early 90s.

xp thx, Al!

I think Spiral found the low end when he boosted the heck out of it for Luxe & Reduxe.

One thing that kind of bothers me about Pavement's "lo-fi" distinction is that they recorded everything up to Crooked Rain at Gary Young's original studio that had a 24-track MCI console which if you are familiar with is approximately the size (132"x41"x38") of ~200 Tascam 424s (18"x14"x4") such as the ones actually used by GBV, Sebadoh, Silver Jews, et.al. Slanted & Enchanted is extremely hi-fi compared to Alistair Galbraith or The Grifters music from the same period.

I have a horse in this race, but imo 90-ish % of the bands under the "lo-fi" banner were only lo-fi under the absolute broadest sense of the term ("not working at Ocean Way")

right, so you end up with this absurd descriptor that covers this vast swath spanning the "direct to boombox/answering machine" bedroom crowd all the way up to... ???

...not spending a month in the ibiza/barbados?

... home studio not up to Tom Scholz standards?