billie eilish

i think the lorde thing was less a direct sonic comparison and more of a cultural/contextual thing? i could be wrong tho

i prob posted this upthread but i thought what is cool about this album is how despite her narrative as a gen z groundbreaker or w/e it fits into a sort of cross genre continuum of bold female driven pop

A good RS comparison was to PJ Harvey's To Bring You My Love timeframe.

I've cooled on the album since April. About half the album is too quiet or her melodies aren't strong enough to compensate for the deliberately malnourished arrangements. The only one of the slow ones I like is the mandolin track that reminds me of Portishead's "Deep Water."

the "bad guy" memes that were floating around twitter for a bit recently were v cute/funny

in case you don't listen to the radio (wouldn't blame you), that song is now officially Blowing Up there, her first proper cross-metric hit

I realized there is an entire continuum of people who are younger than I am, missed a lot of the late 90s reference points we've cycled through (and might not be up on contemporary peers) who have tween children listening to Billie Eilish

lol

I listened to this in full and thought it was Bad™. But also, it’s Not Meant for Me®.

I don't understand this "intentionality" nonsense. I guess I shouldn't watch movies, read novels, or listen to music since 98 percent of their products weren't written for or by gay Latino men.

If you don't like the music, say so. But don't pull the this-music-is-for-adolescent-girls garbage.

I think ultimately shattering the doors to other genres of music that have traditionally been closed off by listeners themselves (let alone the media by implicit or explicit bias in coverage and attitude) is an immeasurable positive for society (let alone for one’s own personal taste). Which is not a judgment call on those who dislike certain albums or artists but it’s an encouragement to free the mind.

bad guy is really a cool song

as is "when the party's over." the artistry is undeniable. the mood of anhedonia is still something i think needs unpacking by some kind of really good music critic though. it's the thing about this album that makes it sound new.

The turn that "listen before I go" takes toward the end is magnificent.

But don't pull the this-music-is-for-adolescent-girls garbage.

You're totally missing (or intentionally) misrepresenting what I meant by that comment, Alfred. And if you think this board needs MORE of ppl's chest-puffing takes on music that doesn't fit their taste profile... well, you're not gonna get it from me.

(Also, and obviously, "adolescent girls" aren't any more a uniform taste bloc than dudes in their 40s; why would you assume I'm painting with such a broad brush?)

LOVED her Radio 1 Big Weekend performance, and the reaction it got from her fans. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p078s4n8

my sister and niece are going to see her at Radio City Music Hall this week

I've heard one song on WFMU

Her music seriously suffers from diminishing returns, she’s huge this year but I feel like once removed from the hype these collection of songs will quickly fade away from the collective consciousness. But then, I reckon the use once and throw away fits what her main audience look for in music consumption.

Her public image is more carefully constructed than the album itself which throws different things to see what sticks but without a discerning personality behind it. I assume a follow-up is in the works and it’ll be more interesting to see where she goes from here imho.

My daughters adore her and are not into "dispose thoughtfully after use" as a cultural aesthetic, thanks.

album's only grown on me, the way the second half gradually tightens into dissipation feels carefully constructed, idk

I don't get the diminishing returns, maybe she will fade away but I like her more after listening for a few months

according to the eight year old daughter of some friends, Taylor Swift is "old" and also "bad" and Billie Eilish is both cool and good.

― omar little, Thursday, June 13, 2019

lol

Eight year old daughter of some friends otm.

I reckon the use once and throw away fits what her main audience look for in music consumption.

Except that the majority of her clearly rapt Radio 1 Big Weekend audience knew every word of every song, and sang back so loudly that she almost became their backing vocalist. It was extraordinary.

her personality comes through clearly and coherently on this record even though there’s a lot of a stylistic variation, that is part of why it’s so good

The fact that you can hear them goofing off between songs is a big part of the appeal of the album...

the album is pretty uneven imo but overall p fantastic. the production palette is so refreshing. and of course the songwriting is killer

Hard not to rlly like an album that feels like it draws equally from Fiona Apple and Claude von Stroke.

The Lex described her as Fiona Trapple the other day and now I can never unhear that.

Lol that’s great

Ofcourse there's already a dj out there with that exact name

I really didn't think she would have staying power but the more and more I listen, the more I like the songs. Her entire aesthetic for right now is so great too.

But then, I reckon the use once and throw away fits what her main audience look for in music consumption.

― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 18 June 2019 02:29 (yesterday) Permalink

Not to pile on, lol, but this is exactly the opposite of true, like perfectly 180 degrees wrong

Probably been said elsewhere, but "Bad Guy" is such a total AMSR trip.

I've always liked the idea of music that has real tactile quality, and she certainly does that here, although I think her bag of tricks is a bit limited.

I gave this album another try last week and only made it halfway through. I believe that I may never get it.

haha u r old

It's probably bad that every time I watch a video one of my first five thoughts are "keep mf'ing marilyn manson away from her."

I’ve finally realized what “bad guy” and ilomilo kept reminding me of.

She can hang out with Yolandi though.

although i guess Yolandi has her own set of issues.

I love Billie Eilish, and I find it kind of fascinating she is the big thing in 2019. Really great debut album.

Geir, do you like Lorde?

fuck yes

Geir!

I think I speak for Geir when I say, flopson does indeed like Lorde.

Uh oh I hope this doesn’t cause Geir to change his mind

New version of Bad Guy w/@justinbieber! @billieeilish https://t.co/bPIcipNO1i

— I Heart Moosiq (@iheartmoosiq) July 11, 2019

undo it

Geir, do you like Lorde?

I particularly liked her last album quite a bit, but Billie Eilish is still a bit more creative, has more of that Kate Bush/Björk edge.