Morrissey is a racist

and also that his stance against non-vegetarians is subject to negotiations: Dave Bowie got a black look, TommyYargMcSweeney gets a mild shake of head.

milkshake on the head surely?

doesn't sound like Morrissey, no.

a milkshake on the head
well, a nation turns its back and gags

I don't know if anyone else saw this, but there was a BBC Four documentary on recently which was examining fandom/tribalism etc. in music since rock'n'roll began. Eventually the subject turned to The Smiths and how they touched those who felt like outsiders or marginalised, and two incredibly devoted Smiths/Morrissey fans were interviewed and showed off their collection of memorabilia. One was a black woman who found inspiration in The Smiths and moved to Manchester and decided to aspire to university even though she initially didn't feel capable of it. Another guy was of Asian descent and showed off his setlists/pictures of him with Morrissey/autographs etc.

I'm guessing that this was filmed quite some time back, so the issue of Morrissey's racism wasn't touched upon, but I wouldn't be surprised if these fans felt more than a little crushed or even betrayed by Morrissey's post-2004 actions.

Or maybe they'd find some way to justify it.

We Hate It When Our Friends Become Successful

You're the One for Me, Fatty

Everyone Ultimately Prefers Their Own Race

— Limmy (@DaftLimmy) June 26, 2019

Asked by Rayner why he has not sued The Guardian, who were among the titles to publish critical articles about him in the aftermath, Morrissey said: “As a so-called entertainer, I have no human rights… apparently… because you put yourself ‘out there’. If I were a postman I would have won a Harassment Case against The Guardian and been awarded 10 million pounds in damages by now.”

Later, he added: “The Guardian have pestered and relentlessly harassed musicians in my life urging them not to work with me again[…] In these days of casual knife crime and hurling of acid, you’d expect The Guardian to maintain a certain careful morality. But no. If I suffered physical harm as a direct result of the Guardian’s tyranny, you can imagine cheers and champagne exploding through their offices… it chills the blood. The Guardian fully believes it is a political party.”

Just because you're paranoid...

“As a so-called entertainer, I have no human rights… apparently… because you put yourself ‘out there’. If I were a postman I would have won a Harassment Case against The Guardian and been awarded 10 million pounds in damages by now.”

a so-called entertainer

otm

"as an entertainer, I have no human rights"

*lawyer whispers urgently in his ear*

"as a SO-CALLED entertainer, i have" etc

sing this inna Morrissey Smiths stylee and it actually works

If I were a postman
I would have won a Harassment Case against The Guardian
And been awarded 10 million pounds in damages by now

and if a champagne bottle
exploded in the offices of the guardian
to die by your side
....

(To the intro of Speedway)

And when you SLAM down the champagne...can you hear the Guardian cheer?
All human rights keeping me protected - they don’t apply, don’t apply
To so-called enterTAINers

racism can stop you from doing all the things in life you'd like to

on the nose I know, but..

I am glad you started there rather than at "racism is nice but"

moz has sided with the bomb

Interpol’s Paul Banks on Touring With Morrissey: “A Good Show for Our Band”

No, Paul. No.

“That’s how I’m looking at it. I don’t get too much into the other stuff.”

https://pitchfork.com/news/interpol-paul-banks-on-touring-with-morrissey-a-good-show-for-our-band/

Morrissey is a racist and this Interpol guy is a fucking dimwit.

no one tell wcc

re: moz ,,,,,, that joke isn't funny anymore

that jerk isn't funny anymore

Looked up the old "should Morrissey have Pj Harvey supporting him?" controversy and found some guy being racist on the thread
https://www.morrissey-solo.com/threads/p-j-harvey-fox-hunting-bitch.37392/

well my day is worse for reading that

Read bits of this too, I'm too lazy to read the whole thing
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/jan/02/today-thoughts-for-the-day-pj-harvey-bbc-assange-pilger

Billy Bragg is on your side
But you lose
Cause Interpol is on mine

https://i.imgur.com/gvT2KBv.jpg

Stolen from facebook. Not a real single (or quote)

chapeau to whoever knocked that together

Morrissey hasn't let himself go yet

https://www.theredhandfiles.com/views-on-morrissey/

When I listen to a beloved song – Neil Young’s ‘On the Beach’, for instance – I feel, at my very core, that that song is speaking to me and to me alone, that I have taken possession of that song exclusively

Haha no kidding - you rereleased it as Higgs Boson Blues...

Wild that Nick did Cosmic Dancer live recently. I would love to have been there to hear that.

What a pompous narcissist he sounds in that blog entry.

The weirdest/funniest thing about this Morrissey thing is how he keeps saying worse and worse things, in contexts where he has more and more control (i.e. getting interview for his own site by his own bloody nephew), and then he just denies/seems oblivious to what he's said. How can someone say something like "Everyone prefers their own race" - as basic as racist statements get - and then come out harrumphing and threatening to sue when he's called out on it?

I think Morrissey's views do change his songs of the past, now that we know they were written from the point of view of a racist.

How Soon Is Now, for example, is about a guy not able to pull cos he's a racist. An incel anthem, if you think about it. https://t.co/TKp7h5aIex

— Limmy (@DaftLimmy) June 29, 2019

Now when I think of Please, Please, Please Let Me Get What I Want, I realise now it's written from the point of view of a teary eyed racist incel, bubbling cos he's not racist but.

— Limmy (@DaftLimmy) June 29, 2019

What a twist. I've said it before, but it's like The Sixth Sense. I want to listen to the songs all over again from this fresh perspective.

— Limmy (@DaftLimmy) June 29, 2019

Whatever inanities he may postulate

🙄

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My takeaway from that is that Nick Cave blog post is that he's encouraging people to pirate Morrissey's music.

Xpost mark s that is a really great piece

thx dude :)

yeah that's really good

Those songs were always expressing the pov of an isolated misanthrope, who knows he turns people off. That their author is a racist, which was clear enough to me since I first bought an album titled Viva Hate and heard the song titled "Bengali in Platforms", doesn't change their meaning that much for me.

I read it some time ago and want to join the chorus of praise for Mark's piece.

Like, this would probably make "Girlfriend in a Coma" more innocent:

Girlfriend in a comma is totally about cutting funds to the nhs too when you think about it

— McGarvey (@McGarvito) June 29, 2019

https://www.facebook.com/billybraggofficial/posts/10156047846402471

posting here for posterity, also Bragg makes some great points:

"Last Sunday, while much of the British media were lauding Stormzy’s Glastonbury headline show as epoch defining, Morrissey posted a white supremacist video on his website, accompanied by the comment ‘Nothing But Blue Skies for Stormzy...The Gallows for Morrissey’. The nine minute clip lifted footage from the grime star’s Pyramid Stage performance while arguing that the British establishment are using him to promote multiculturalism at the expense of white culture.

The YouTube channel of the video’s author contains other clips expressing , among other things, homophobia, racism and misogyny - left wing women of colour are a favourite target for his ire. There are also clips expounding the Great Replacement Theory, a far right conspiracy trope which holds that there is a plot of obliterate the white populations of Europe and North America through mass immigration and cultural warfare.

My first thought was to wonder what kind of websites Morrissey must be trawling in order to be able to find and repost this clip on the same day that it appeared online? I came home from Glastonbury expecting to see some angry responses to his endorsement of white supremacism. Instead, the NME published an interview with Brandon Flowers in which the Killers lead singer proclaimed that Morrissey was still “a king”, despite being in what Flowers recognised was “hot water” over his bigoted comments.

As the week progressed, I kept waiting for some reaction to the white supremacist video, yet none was forthcoming. Every time I googled Morrissey, up would pop another article from a music website echoing the NME’s original headline: ‘The Killers Brandon Flowers on Morrissey: ‘He’s Still A King’. I’m well aware from personal experience how easy it is for an artist to find something you’ve said in the context of a longer discourse turned into an inflammatory headline that doesn’t reflect your genuine views on the subject at hand, but I have to wonder if Flowers really understands the ramifications of Morrissey’s expressions of support for the far right For Britain Party?

As the writer of the powerful Killers song ‘Land of the Free’, does he know that For Britain wants to build the kind of barriers to immigration that Flowers condemns in that lyric?
Party leader Anne Marie Walters maintains ties with Generation Identity, the group who both inspired and received funds from the gunman who murdered 50 worshippers at a Christchurch mosque. How does that sit with the condemnation of mass murder by lone gunman in ‘Land of the Free’?

As an explicitly anti-Muslim party, For Britain opposes the religious slaughter of animals without the use of a stun gun, a policy that has given Morrissey a fig leaf of respectability, allowing him to claim he supports them on animal welfare grounds. Yet if that is his primary concern, why does he not support the UK’s Animal Welfare Party, which stood candidates in the recent European elections?

Among their policies, the AWF also aim to prohibit non-stun slaughter. If his only interest was to end this practice, he could have achieved this without the taint of Islamophobia by endorsing them. They are a tiny party, but Morrissey’s vocal support would have given the animal rights movement a huge boost of publicity ahead of the polls.

Instead, he expresses support for anti-Muslim provocateurs, posts white supremacist videos and, when challenged, clutches his pearls and cries “Infamy, infamy, they’ve all got it in for me”. His recent claim that “as a so-called entertainer, I have no rights” is a ridiculous position made all the more troubling by the fact that it is a common trope among right-wing reactionaries.

The notion that certain individuals are not allowed to say certain things is spurious, not least because it is most often invoked after they’ve made their offensive comments. Look closely at their claims and you’ll find that what they are actually complaining about is the fact that they have been challenged.

The concept of freedom pushed by the new generation of free speech warriors maintains that the individual has the right to say whatever they want, whenever they want, to whoever they want, with no comeback. If that is the definition of freedom, then one need look no further than Donald Trump’s Twitter feed as our generation’s beacon of liberty. Perhaps Lady Liberty should be replaced in New York Harbour with a colossal sculpture of the Donald, wearing a toga, holding a gaslight.

Worryingly, Morrissey’s reaction to being challenged over his support of For Britain, his willingness to double down rather than apologise for any offence caused, suggests a commitment to a bigotry that tarnishes his persona as the champion of the outsider. Where once he offered solace to the victims of a cruel and unjust world, he now seems to have joined the bullies waiting outside the school gates.

As an activist, I’m appalled by this transformation, but as a Smiths fan, I’m heartbroken.

It was Johnny Marr’s amazing guitar that drew me to the band, but I grasped that Morrissey was an exceptional lyricist when I heard ‘Reel Around the Fountain’. Ironically, it was a line that he had stolen that won my affections. “I dreamt about you last night and I fell out of bed twice” is spoken by Jimmy, the black sailor, to his white teenage lover, Jo, in Sheila Delaney’s play ‘A Taste of Honey’.

The 1961 movie, starring Rita Tushingham was an early example of a post-war British society that would embrace multi-racial relationships (and homosexuality too). By pilfering that particular line for the song, Morrissey was placing the Smiths in the great tradition of northern working class culture that may have been in the gutter, but was looking at the stars. Yet, by posting a white supremacist video in which he is quoted as saying “Everyone prefers their own race”, Morrissey undermines that line, erasing Jo and Jimmy and all those misfit lovers to whom the Smiths once gave so much encouragement.

A week has passed since the video appeared on Morrissey’s website and nothing has been written in the media to challenge his position. Today it was reported that research by the Institute for Strategic Dialogue, a UK based anti-extremist organisation, reveals that the Great Replacement Theory is being promoted so effectively by the far right that it is entering mainstream political discourse.

That Morrissey is helping to spread this idea - which inspired the Christchurch mosque murderer - is beyond doubt. Those who claim that this has no relevance to his stature as an artist should ask themselves if, by demanding that we separate the singer from the song, they too are helping to propagate this racist creed."

https://i.redd.it/xt8zs1vzapc21.jpg

Jesus ppl yeah Moz DEFINITELY the only one of that lot who's ever trafficked in suspect politics

I'm a little sad they didn't use a picture of Siouxsie rocking a swastika