Morrissey is a racist

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Some guy named 4chan said Hitler did nothing wrong.

pomenitul, Monday, 3 June 2019 09:54 (seven years ago)

Also, can we start a new thread titled 'Morrissey is a fascist'?

pomenitul, Monday, 3 June 2019 09:55 (seven years ago)

He could say Hitler was right to kill the Jews and legions of his fans would defend him and claim he's misunderstood.

The Guts of Duran Duran (Tom D.), Monday, 3 June 2019 09:59 (seven years ago)

... and that's no joke btw.

The Guts of Duran Duran (Tom D.), Monday, 3 June 2019 09:59 (seven years ago)

ol' Moz bringin' out the Godwin's law on ilx, gotta love it

Paul Ponzi, Monday, 3 June 2019 10:05 (seven years ago)

what's his backup argument, "hitler was a sensitive man"?

Charming man

Sam Weller, Monday, 3 June 2019 10:08 (seven years ago)

TS: Steven Patrick Morrissey vs Mikko Aspa

pomenitul, Monday, 3 June 2019 10:09 (seven years ago)

Godwin himself approves a common sense exception to invoking his law when ppl are discussing actual confirmed white supremacists tbfttl

By all means, compare these shitheads to Nazis. Again and again. I'm with you.

— Mike Godwin (@sfmnemonic) August 14, 2017

shhh / let peaceful like things (wins), Monday, 3 June 2019 10:12 (seven years ago)

so pleased to finally meet you Mike...I've invoked your name countless times on message borads over the decades....

calzino, Monday, 3 June 2019 10:16 (seven years ago)

ol' Moz bringin' out the Godwin's law on ilx, gotta love it

Who asked you?

The Guts of Duran Duran (Tom D.), Monday, 3 June 2019 10:32 (seven years ago)

Much of the criticism levelled at Morrissey's endorsement of For Britain stems from accusations that the party are either “racist” or “anti-Islam” (a meaningless claim when you consider that even some ex-Muslims openly support the party

this might be the dumbest sentence I've ever seen

Screamin' Jay Gould (The Yellow Kid), Monday, 3 June 2019 11:45 (seven years ago)

Much of the criticism levelled at Morrissey's endorsement of Darth Vader stems from accusations that he is either “a sith" or “anti-jedi” (a meaningless claim when you consider that even some ex-jedis openly support his reign of terror)

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 3 June 2019 13:25 (seven years ago)

Defensive Morrissey Fans Take Gold In Mental Gymnastics

“Morrissey supporters are passionate enough to weather anything he says — they will make a quick Facebook post denouncing him, but still excitedly buy a ticket to see him live just minutes later,” said panel member Lorena Bosko. “I mean, less than two years ago, he victim-blamed Kevin Spacey’s accusers, criticized multiculturalism, and voiced his support of Brexit, all in the same interview… and his last album still charted!”

...

At press time, the ICPF announced that the mental gymnastics silver medal was awarded to fans of Chris Brown for the third year in a row, while the fans of Jake Paul were disqualified for all being under 16 and therefore too young for consideration.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 14:06 (seven years ago)

Eh, I don't see any real contradiction in denouncing someone's actions or comments and still appreciating their artistic work.

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 14:17 (seven years ago)

Yes, worse to defend his comments and actions - which plenty of them do.

John Harris is a Guardian columnist (Tom D.), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 14:40 (seven years ago)

This should put any accusations to rest. https://youtu.be/tuEwsB_7Nm0

Una Palooka Dronka (hardcore dilettante), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 15:00 (seven years ago)

I still think this thread should be renamed "Morrissey's a racist, Morrissey's a racist, la la la la, la la la la.."

Mark G, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 15:08 (seven years ago)

omg that dude's channel is ridiculous

Arugula Raccoon (DJP), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 15:56 (seven years ago)

long live buff correl

boobie, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 19:50 (seven years ago)

Confirmed:

Morrissey rethinks the personal and political power of pop music on California Son. https://t.co/QJSneKudaC #Morrissey #BobDylan #BryanFerry

— armond white (@3xchair) June 5, 2019

zama roma ding dong (Eric H.), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 12:59 (seven years ago)

oh armondpaws

can’t stop thinking about amy adams as crash bandicoot (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 13:03 (seven years ago)

"Defending the recent controversy roused by performing his covers while wearing a pro-Brexit “For Britain” badge, political artist Morrissey recently insisted that"

It is not a "pro-Brexit" badge, it's a "pro-racism" badge. Nice try though Armand.

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 13:07 (seven years ago)

describing 'national front disco' as 'uniquely stirring' is some god-tier trolling

can’t stop thinking about amy adams as crash bandicoot (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 13:08 (seven years ago)

In his open support for the party For Britain , (which seems to have caused the most controversy in recent years) Morrissey has explained his admiration for the party leader's (Anne Marie Water) vegan lifestyle and huge dedication to animal protection.

want to vote for a party with a vegetarian leader? at the last uk general election, you had jeremy corbyn, tim farron and jonathan bartley to choose from and the last of whom is i think now vegan. the green party had explicit animal welfare policies in their manifesto. the labour party have a vegan mp (kerry mccarthy). pretending that amw is a lone voice for animals in uk politics is total bollocks

Br. Des Shadows (NickB), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 14:31 (seven years ago)

There was some Animal Welfare party dropping leaflets 'round my area and they were explicitly anti-Brexit because they believe animal rights legislation will suffer w/o EU restrictions.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 14:33 (seven years ago)

yes, that too

Br. Des Shadows (NickB), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 14:46 (seven years ago)

i dunno guys, i get this horrible nagging feeling that morrissey might actually be a little bit racist

Br. Des Shadows (NickB), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 14:47 (seven years ago)

and also that his stance against non-vegetarians is subject to negotiations: Dave Bowie got a black look, TommyYargMcSweeney gets a mild shake of head.

Mark G, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 14:53 (seven years ago)

milkshake on the head surely?

John Harris is a Guardian columnist (Tom D.), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 14:57 (seven years ago)

doesn't sound like Morrissey, no.

Mark G, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 14:57 (seven years ago)

a milkshake on the head
well, a nation turns its back and gags

Arugula Raccoon (DJP), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 14:59 (seven years ago)

I don't know if anyone else saw this, but there was a BBC Four documentary on recently which was examining fandom/tribalism etc. in music since rock'n'roll began. Eventually the subject turned to The Smiths and how they touched those who felt like outsiders or marginalised, and two incredibly devoted Smiths/Morrissey fans were interviewed and showed off their collection of memorabilia. One was a black woman who found inspiration in The Smiths and moved to Manchester and decided to aspire to university even though she initially didn't feel capable of it. Another guy was of Asian descent and showed off his setlists/pictures of him with Morrissey/autographs etc.

I'm guessing that this was filmed quite some time back, so the issue of Morrissey's racism wasn't touched upon, but I wouldn't be surprised if these fans felt more than a little crushed or even betrayed by Morrissey's post-2004 actions.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 15:02 (seven years ago)

Or maybe they'd find some way to justify it.

DT, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 19:45 (seven years ago)

three weeks pass...

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You're the One for Me, Fatty

Everyone Ultimately Prefers Their Own Race

— Limmy (@DaftLimmy) June 26, 2019

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 26 June 2019 15:59 (six years ago)

Asked by Rayner why he has not sued The Guardian, who were among the titles to publish critical articles about him in the aftermath, Morrissey said: “As a so-called entertainer, I have no human rights… apparently… because you put yourself ‘out there’. If I were a postman I would have won a Harassment Case against The Guardian and been awarded 10 million pounds in damages by now.”


This is one guy who deserves a milkshaking
Later, he added: “The Guardian have pestered and relentlessly harassed musicians in my life urging them not to work with me again[…] In these days of casual knife crime and hurling of acid, you’d expect The Guardian to maintain a certain careful morality. But no. If I suffered physical harm as a direct result of the Guardian’s tyranny, you can imagine cheers and champagne exploding through their offices… it chills the blood. The Guardian fully believes it is a political party.”


Lol

govussy blues (gyac), Wednesday, 26 June 2019 16:24 (six years ago)

Just because you're paranoid...

Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Wednesday, 26 June 2019 17:19 (six years ago)

“As a so-called entertainer, I have no human rights… apparently… because you put yourself ‘out there’. If I were a postman I would have won a Harassment Case against The Guardian and been awarded 10 million pounds in damages by now.”
reading this as "even his British libel lawyers are telling him it's not worth suing as he doesn't have a case."

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 26 June 2019 17:22 (six years ago)

a so-called entertainer

otm

omar little, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 17:25 (six years ago)

"as an entertainer, I have no human rights"

*lawyer whispers urgently in his ear*

"as a SO-CALLED entertainer, i have" etc

mark s, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 17:28 (six years ago)

sing this inna Morrissey Smiths stylee and it actually works

If I were a postman
I would have won a Harassment Case against The Guardian
And been awarded 10 million pounds in damages by now

omar little, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 17:30 (six years ago)

and if a champagne bottle
exploded in the offices of the guardian
to die by your side
....

maffew12, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 17:37 (six years ago)

(To the intro of Speedway)

And when you SLAM down the champagne...can you hear the Guardian cheer?
All human rights keeping me protected - they don’t apply, don’t apply
To so-called enterTAINers

govussy blues (gyac), Wednesday, 26 June 2019 17:47 (six years ago)

racism can stop you from doing all the things in life you'd like to

maffew12, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 17:54 (six years ago)

on the nose I know, but..

maffew12, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 17:55 (six years ago)

I am glad you started there rather than at "racism is nice but"

brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 26 June 2019 17:57 (six years ago)

moz has sided with the bomb

maffew12, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 18:00 (six years ago)

Interpol’s Paul Banks on Touring With Morrissey: “A Good Show for Our Band”

No, Paul. No.

“That’s how I’m looking at it. I don’t get too much into the other stuff.”

https://pitchfork.com/news/interpol-paul-banks-on-touring-with-morrissey-a-good-show-for-our-band/

Position Position, Thursday, 27 June 2019 20:54 (six years ago)

Morrissey is a racist and this Interpol guy is a fucking dimwit.

Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Thursday, 27 June 2019 20:59 (six years ago)

no one tell wcc

mookieproof, Thursday, 27 June 2019 21:00 (six years ago)

Right now, it's kids throwing firecrackers, loud explosions through the night and 30' bonfires all throughout the city
ngl, I would enjoy this

Francis Fuck Coprolalia (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 15 March 2026 14:21 (three months ago)

he should have just said the show was cancelled because of woke

― symsymsym, Thursday, March 12, 2026 7:11 PM (three days ago)

hahahaha

WmC, Sunday, 15 March 2026 14:22 (three months ago)

Reuters took into account Banksy’s privacy claims – and the fact that many of his fans wish for him to remain anonymous. Yet we concluded that the public has a deep interest in understanding the identity and career of a figure with his profound and enduring influence on culture, the art industry and international political discourse. In so doing, we applied the same principle Reuters uses everywhere. The people and institutions who seek to shape social and political discourse are subject to scrutiny, accountability, and, sometimes, unmasking. Banksy’s anonymity – a deliberate, public-facing, and profitable feature of his work – has enabled him to operate without such transparency.

"we just did what we wanted to do and we have a bunch of nonsense reasons to say 'we get to do this'"

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Sunday, 15 March 2026 16:40 (three months ago)

this is the wrong thread unless you've just dropped a major revelation

podcast Diderot (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 15 March 2026 16:41 (three months ago)

wrong thread indeed!

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Sunday, 15 March 2026 16:42 (three months ago)

slightly disappointed

podcast Diderot (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 15 March 2026 16:44 (three months ago)

Still I’d rather be banksy that righteous or holy
Any day any day any day

138,683 Serious, Earnest Americans Emphasize Demand for Prepar (President Keyes), Sunday, 15 March 2026 17:18 (three months ago)

Than

138,683 Serious, Earnest Americans Emphasize Demand for Prepar (President Keyes), Sunday, 15 March 2026 17:19 (three months ago)

The Strange Case of Dr. Bansky and Mr. Morrissey

Come On, (Eazy), Sunday, 15 March 2026 17:28 (three months ago)


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