thread to dis hyped releases that you don't get/don't like/wanna complain about

by "certain other cultures" do you mean the entirety of the internet

I mean longstanding cultures where that happens irl as well.

Btw, what's so awful about power electronics?

Aside from the fact that it's awful in the archaic sense.

This thread is fairly polite considering how much totally shit music gets an easy ride on ILX these days.

This is a safe space for haterz, so let it flow.

Me, every time I see that D0ja C4t thread pop up:

[insert appropriate meme]

sorry, i was just making a joke. i think it's great that this thread exists and that anyone is free to hate The National. it's statements like "all 'indie' is an affront to humanity" that annoy me, and there's been lots of that in here the past few days.

but, as Brad said, i can also stay away.

all 'indie' is an affront to humanity

Obvious troll is obvious and shouldn't be fed, etc.

i think that my bias is really more against bands like the National and Vampire Weekend, etc., and certain other groups producing inoffensive pap. i like plenty of independent punk and metal, and continue to be obsessed with certain electronic music, so it's mostly that what is heavily marketed and lauded as "indie" just sounds like garbage to me. like fourth-rate David Byrne sans any interesting lyrics.

inoffensive pap

certainly seems to offend some...

I guess it could be argued “indie” as a genre in terms of marketing has been co-opted by this “Morning Becomes Eclectic” NPR type of very basic competent morning commute dadrock.

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ilm likes shit indie now, currently and retrospectively. the same need to feel clever hasn't gone away so that's the board.

i didn't say "to humanity", garbage indie is an affront TO ME. eat a fuckin steak some of you

tbh some of the shit people like now isn't even indie, not that defending the word is worth any effort. just shit commercial rock of the kind that the entire board would have laughed at when people who actually follow pop and alternative music, of many kinds, were the dominant voices.

"fourth-rate David Byrne sans any interesting lyrics" seems like a solid take imo

"“Morning Becomes Eclectic” NPR type of very basic competent morning commute dadrock" also OTM

I have never knowingly heard The Strokes, Interpol, The Arcade Fire, The National, The 1975, or Vampire Weekend, and I plan to keep it that way

There's some good music in there, but the overall mellowing of rock music has been a disaster overall.

Feel free to mentally drop one "overall"

i'd say The Strokes are worth a listen

inoffensive pap

certainly seems to offend some...

― Jeff the grown man (voodoo chili), Friday, May 31, 2019 9:40 AM (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it offends me insomuch as it takes no risks. it isn't sexy, it isn't surprising, it isn't riotous, it isn't weird, it isn't catchy. it's just competent, as others have said above. that should be offensive.

i'd say The Strokes are worth a listen

the same need to feel clever hasn't gone away so that's the board.

^^ real life lol

widescreen big emotions rock music for grinning fans holding their arms aloft eyes closed for the perfect instagram pic is a genre i'm generally not down with, which is hypocritical because i like U2.

it offends me insomuch as it takes no risks. it isn't sexy, it isn't surprising, it isn't riotous, it isn't weird, it isn't catchy. it's just competent, as others have said above. that should be offensive.

― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Friday, May 31, 2019 5:45 PM (fifty-five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The hugeness of “indie” as a genre/marketing category/whatever inherently make broad generalizations like this silly.

Like idk what commonalities you can find between something like Liars or Deerhoof and something like Vampire Weekend but if you’re a hater then you’re a hater

lol brimstead, I'm on your side man

xp I don’t think the “indie” haters are taking about “indie rock”

I'm an edge Lorde.

some xposts to voodoo chili: i'm not talking about Liars, Old Time Relijun, or whatever other bands like that. post 2004 or so, there became a huge divide in terms of what can be described as "indie" and what the industry peddled as "indie."

i like The Mountain Goats, Oneida, and a bunch of other shit from that time. hell, i still listen to GGD, and blast Excepter on the regular.

but every band i mentioned is a far cry from the NPR and commercial ready stuff that is regularly called "indie" these days.

(i am aware that when i say, "shit from that time," i am dating myself and acting as if some of those groups didn't keep producing music. i know they have, i just stopped paying attention).

Btw, what's so awful about power electronics?

― pomenitul

the exact same things that are awful about edgelords, imo

" Once again, lyrics are nearly meaningless to me, so that might explain why." what?

My argument is that vw doesn’t honor the fire

Can't honor the fire if you don't have the fire

I think current economic conditions in the US make it difficult to be in a band if you aren't independently wealthy. You get a bunch of bands full of people who have led very comfortable lives who make comfortable music with little edge.

ILM has shown me that there's still lots of good rock coming out of Australia. Don't know if anyone on here can comment on whether it's more feasible for people to have bands over there.

I think current economic conditions in the US make it difficult to be in a band if you aren't independently wealthy. You get a bunch of bands full of people who have led very comfortable lives who make comfortable music with little edge.

― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, May 31, 2019 10:26 PM (twenty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm

don’t indie bands just have day jobs, like always? Quit shit job to go on tour, get another shit job when you get back?

Maybe so, but I suspect even that option is more limited than it once was. The possibility to have a band and be sustained by a record label is basically gone.

^
I blame myself

Revisiting this discussion is worse than, er, “indie”.:.

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" Once again, lyrics are nearly meaningless to me, so that might explain why." what?

Well said

I don't think that coming from a comfortable or even privileged background necessarily means that someone has to make comfortable music with no edge, fwiw, cf. Stravinsky, Boulez, Stockhausen, Miles Davis, Henry Kaiser, ...

(Admittedly, some of those lived through a world war.)

ymmv but as far as i'm concerned being born black in america in 1926 disqualifies one from being "comfortable" or "privileged" no matter how much money your family has

Cecil Percival T was another avant-garde powerhouse from a quite comfortable m/c background iirc.

I should have probably just said "wealthy".

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