Was, is, and ever shall be
― shhh / let peaceful like things (wins), Thursday, 30 May 2019 16:50 (seven years ago)
The past is a different country, but Morrissey is still racist there.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 30 May 2019 16:53 (seven years ago)
I just feel bad for all the people who named their cats Steven Meowrissey
― mick signals, Thursday, 30 May 2019 17:43 (seven years ago)
He has tweeted someone's blog post in defense of himself. It's all about veganism and shaking things up, you idiots:
In his open support for the party For Britain , (which seems to have caused the most controversy in recent years) Morrissey has explained his admiration for the party leader's (Anne Marie Water) vegan lifestyle and huge dedication to animal protection. He has long expressed how he is tired of the same two political groups running the game again and again, he wants to see a shake up in politics, as many of us do. Much of the criticism levelled at Morrissey's endorsement of For Britain stems from accusations that the party are either “racist” or “anti-Islam” (a meaningless claim when you consider that even some ex-Muslims openly support the party, and they have members of all backgrounds).
It goes on.
https://www.tremr.com/Fiona-Dodwell/the-guardian-and-the-morrissey-vendetta
― Sam Weller, Monday, 3 June 2019 09:28 (seven years ago)
“racist” or “anti-Islam” (a meaningless claim when you consider that even some ex-Muslims openly support the party, and they have members of all backgrounds)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nazis_of_non-Germanic_descent
― pomenitul, Monday, 3 June 2019 09:30 (seven years ago)
Any actual Muslims support this non-racist, non-Islamophoboc party?
― The Guts of Duran Duran (Tom D.), Monday, 3 June 2019 09:42 (seven years ago)
so wait, morrissey's argument here is literally "hitler was a vegetarian"?
what's his backup argument, "hitler was a sensitive man"?
― Flood-Resistant Mirror-Drilling Machine (rushomancy), Monday, 3 June 2019 09:45 (seven years ago)
Hitler was a lesbian.
― The Guts of Duran Duran (Tom D.), Monday, 3 June 2019 09:47 (seven years ago)
Some guy named 4chan said Hitler did nothing wrong.
― pomenitul, Monday, 3 June 2019 09:54 (seven years ago)
Also, can we start a new thread titled 'Morrissey is a fascist'?
― pomenitul, Monday, 3 June 2019 09:55 (seven years ago)
He could say Hitler was right to kill the Jews and legions of his fans would defend him and claim he's misunderstood.
― The Guts of Duran Duran (Tom D.), Monday, 3 June 2019 09:59 (seven years ago)
... and that's no joke btw.
ol' Moz bringin' out the Godwin's law on ilx, gotta love it
― Paul Ponzi, Monday, 3 June 2019 10:05 (seven years ago)
Charming man
― Sam Weller, Monday, 3 June 2019 10:08 (seven years ago)
TS: Steven Patrick Morrissey vs Mikko Aspa
― pomenitul, Monday, 3 June 2019 10:09 (seven years ago)
Godwin himself approves a common sense exception to invoking his law when ppl are discussing actual confirmed white supremacists tbfttl
By all means, compare these shitheads to Nazis. Again and again. I'm with you.— Mike Godwin (@sfmnemonic) August 14, 2017
― shhh / let peaceful like things (wins), Monday, 3 June 2019 10:12 (seven years ago)
so pleased to finally meet you Mike...I've invoked your name countless times on message borads over the decades....
― calzino, Monday, 3 June 2019 10:16 (seven years ago)
Who asked you?
― The Guts of Duran Duran (Tom D.), Monday, 3 June 2019 10:32 (seven years ago)
https://images.eil.com/large_image/THE_SMITHS_ASK%2B-%2BUNIQUE%2BGREEN%2BTINTED%2BSLEEVE-448777b.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 3 June 2019 11:36 (seven years ago)
Much of the criticism levelled at Morrissey's endorsement of For Britain stems from accusations that the party are either “racist” or “anti-Islam” (a meaningless claim when you consider that even some ex-Muslims openly support the party
this might be the dumbest sentence I've ever seen
― Screamin' Jay Gould (The Yellow Kid), Monday, 3 June 2019 11:45 (seven years ago)
Much of the criticism levelled at Morrissey's endorsement of Darth Vader stems from accusations that he is either “a sith" or “anti-jedi” (a meaningless claim when you consider that even some ex-jedis openly support his reign of terror)
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 3 June 2019 13:25 (seven years ago)
Defensive Morrissey Fans Take Gold In Mental Gymnastics
“Morrissey supporters are passionate enough to weather anything he says — they will make a quick Facebook post denouncing him, but still excitedly buy a ticket to see him live just minutes later,” said panel member Lorena Bosko. “I mean, less than two years ago, he victim-blamed Kevin Spacey’s accusers, criticized multiculturalism, and voiced his support of Brexit, all in the same interview… and his last album still charted!”...At press time, the ICPF announced that the mental gymnastics silver medal was awarded to fans of Chris Brown for the third year in a row, while the fans of Jake Paul were disqualified for all being under 16 and therefore too young for consideration.
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At press time, the ICPF announced that the mental gymnastics silver medal was awarded to fans of Chris Brown for the third year in a row, while the fans of Jake Paul were disqualified for all being under 16 and therefore too young for consideration.
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 14:06 (seven years ago)
Eh, I don't see any real contradiction in denouncing someone's actions or comments and still appreciating their artistic work.
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 14:17 (seven years ago)
Yes, worse to defend his comments and actions - which plenty of them do.
― John Harris is a Guardian columnist (Tom D.), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 14:40 (seven years ago)
This should put any accusations to rest. https://youtu.be/tuEwsB_7Nm0
― Una Palooka Dronka (hardcore dilettante), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 15:00 (seven years ago)
I still think this thread should be renamed "Morrissey's a racist, Morrissey's a racist, la la la la, la la la la.."
― Mark G, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 15:08 (seven years ago)
omg that dude's channel is ridiculous
― Arugula Raccoon (DJP), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 15:56 (seven years ago)
long live buff correl
― boobie, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 19:50 (seven years ago)
Confirmed:
Morrissey rethinks the personal and political power of pop music on California Son. https://t.co/QJSneKudaC #Morrissey #BobDylan #BryanFerry— armond white (@3xchair) June 5, 2019
― zama roma ding dong (Eric H.), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 12:59 (seven years ago)
oh armondpaws
― can’t stop thinking about amy adams as crash bandicoot (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 13:03 (seven years ago)
"Defending the recent controversy roused by performing his covers while wearing a pro-Brexit “For Britain” badge, political artist Morrissey recently insisted that"
It is not a "pro-Brexit" badge, it's a "pro-racism" badge. Nice try though Armand.
― Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 13:07 (seven years ago)
describing 'national front disco' as 'uniquely stirring' is some god-tier trolling
― can’t stop thinking about amy adams as crash bandicoot (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 13:08 (seven years ago)
In his open support for the party For Britain , (which seems to have caused the most controversy in recent years) Morrissey has explained his admiration for the party leader's (Anne Marie Water) vegan lifestyle and huge dedication to animal protection.
want to vote for a party with a vegetarian leader? at the last uk general election, you had jeremy corbyn, tim farron and jonathan bartley to choose from and the last of whom is i think now vegan. the green party had explicit animal welfare policies in their manifesto. the labour party have a vegan mp (kerry mccarthy). pretending that amw is a lone voice for animals in uk politics is total bollocks
― Br. Des Shadows (NickB), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 14:31 (seven years ago)
There was some Animal Welfare party dropping leaflets 'round my area and they were explicitly anti-Brexit because they believe animal rights legislation will suffer w/o EU restrictions.
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 14:33 (seven years ago)
yes, that too
― Br. Des Shadows (NickB), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 14:46 (seven years ago)
i dunno guys, i get this horrible nagging feeling that morrissey might actually be a little bit racist
― Br. Des Shadows (NickB), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 14:47 (seven years ago)
and also that his stance against non-vegetarians is subject to negotiations: Dave Bowie got a black look, TommyYargMcSweeney gets a mild shake of head.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 14:53 (seven years ago)
milkshake on the head surely?
― John Harris is a Guardian columnist (Tom D.), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 14:57 (seven years ago)
doesn't sound like Morrissey, no.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 14:57 (seven years ago)
a milkshake on the headwell, a nation turns its back and gags
― Arugula Raccoon (DJP), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 14:59 (seven years ago)
I don't know if anyone else saw this, but there was a BBC Four documentary on recently which was examining fandom/tribalism etc. in music since rock'n'roll began. Eventually the subject turned to The Smiths and how they touched those who felt like outsiders or marginalised, and two incredibly devoted Smiths/Morrissey fans were interviewed and showed off their collection of memorabilia. One was a black woman who found inspiration in The Smiths and moved to Manchester and decided to aspire to university even though she initially didn't feel capable of it. Another guy was of Asian descent and showed off his setlists/pictures of him with Morrissey/autographs etc.
I'm guessing that this was filmed quite some time back, so the issue of Morrissey's racism wasn't touched upon, but I wouldn't be surprised if these fans felt more than a little crushed or even betrayed by Morrissey's post-2004 actions.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 15:02 (seven years ago)
Or maybe they'd find some way to justify it.
― DT, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 19:45 (seven years ago)
We Hate It When Our Friends Become SuccessfulYou're the One for Me, FattyEveryone Ultimately Prefers Their Own Race— Limmy (@DaftLimmy) June 26, 2019
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 26 June 2019 15:59 (six years ago)
Asked by Rayner why he has not sued The Guardian, who were among the titles to publish critical articles about him in the aftermath, Morrissey said: “As a so-called entertainer, I have no human rights… apparently… because you put yourself ‘out there’. If I were a postman I would have won a Harassment Case against The Guardian and been awarded 10 million pounds in damages by now.”
Later, he added: “The Guardian have pestered and relentlessly harassed musicians in my life urging them not to work with me again[…] In these days of casual knife crime and hurling of acid, you’d expect The Guardian to maintain a certain careful morality. But no. If I suffered physical harm as a direct result of the Guardian’s tyranny, you can imagine cheers and champagne exploding through their offices… it chills the blood. The Guardian fully believes it is a political party.”
― govussy blues (gyac), Wednesday, 26 June 2019 16:24 (six years ago)
Just because you're paranoid...
― Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Wednesday, 26 June 2019 17:19 (six years ago)
“As a so-called entertainer, I have no human rights… apparently… because you put yourself ‘out there’. If I were a postman I would have won a Harassment Case against The Guardian and been awarded 10 million pounds in damages by now.”
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 26 June 2019 17:22 (six years ago)
a so-called entertainer
otm
― omar little, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 17:25 (six years ago)
"as an entertainer, I have no human rights"
*lawyer whispers urgently in his ear*
"as a SO-CALLED entertainer, i have" etc
― mark s, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 17:28 (six years ago)
sing this inna Morrissey Smiths stylee and it actually works
If I were a postman I would have won a Harassment Case against The Guardian And been awarded 10 million pounds in damages by now
― omar little, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 17:30 (six years ago)
and if a champagne bottleexploded in the offices of the guardianto die by your side....
― maffew12, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 17:37 (six years ago)
Bingo
― podcast Diderot (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 15 March 2026 07:56 (three months ago)
I wouldn’t hold anyone to a translation of a quote that was probably a condensation in the original, but in the English presentation he clearly agrees with you.
― uploading this content requires perseveration (sic), Sunday, 15 March 2026 09:39 (three months ago)
I have a good friend in Valencia, and naturally I asked him about this. Here is what he said, no doubt copied and pasted from his replies to various other friends also sending him silly Moz memes and inquiring about this:
It's the Fallas festival here. No one is getting any sleep. Terrible tour booking. I literally can't get into the city until a week Sunday when the roads open back up. Right now, it's kids throwing firecrackers, loud explosions through the night and 30' bonfires all throughout the city. [mutual friend] insisted on visiting at this time last year, against all advice, and had a thoroughly miserable time. We barely got to hang out.
― Paul Ponzi, Sunday, 15 March 2026 11:29 (three months ago)
Heaven knows I'm thoroughly miserable now.
― Schlub 7 (Tom D.), Sunday, 15 March 2026 11:52 (three months ago)
teenagers with bonfires clearly hired by The Guardian to mock the great man's unreleased masterpiece Bonfire Of Teenagers :-(
― . (jamiesummerz), Sunday, 15 March 2026 13:33 (three months ago)
Fallas festival, the city’s world-famous festival of art, fire, food and music.
Wait ... festival of fire? So ... fire fest? Suddenly this train wreck is making sense.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 15 March 2026 13:40 (three months ago)
yeah, that word caught my attention too!
― Paul Ponzi, Sunday, 15 March 2026 14:12 (three months ago)
On the final night of Falles, around midnight on 19 March,[20] these falles are burnt as huge bonfires. This is known as La Cremà (the Burning), the climax of the whole event,[21] and the reason why the constructions are called falles ("torches"). Traditionally, the falla in the Plaça de l'Ajuntament is burned last.
― 138,683 Serious, Earnest Americans Emphasize Demand for Prepar (President Keyes), Sunday, 15 March 2026 14:19 (three months ago)
Right now, it's kids throwing firecrackers, loud explosions through the night and 30' bonfires all throughout the city
― Francis Fuck Coprolalia (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 15 March 2026 14:21 (three months ago)
he should have just said the show was cancelled because of woke
― symsymsym, Thursday, March 12, 2026 7:11 PM (three days ago)
hahahaha
― WmC, Sunday, 15 March 2026 14:22 (three months ago)
Reuters took into account Banksy’s privacy claims – and the fact that many of his fans wish for him to remain anonymous. Yet we concluded that the public has a deep interest in understanding the identity and career of a figure with his profound and enduring influence on culture, the art industry and international political discourse. In so doing, we applied the same principle Reuters uses everywhere. The people and institutions who seek to shape social and political discourse are subject to scrutiny, accountability, and, sometimes, unmasking. Banksy’s anonymity – a deliberate, public-facing, and profitable feature of his work – has enabled him to operate without such transparency.
"we just did what we wanted to do and we have a bunch of nonsense reasons to say 'we get to do this'"
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Sunday, 15 March 2026 16:40 (three months ago)
this is the wrong thread unless you've just dropped a major revelation
― podcast Diderot (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 15 March 2026 16:41 (three months ago)
wrong thread indeed!
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Sunday, 15 March 2026 16:42 (three months ago)
slightly disappointed
― podcast Diderot (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 15 March 2026 16:44 (three months ago)
Still I’d rather be banksy that righteous or holyAny day any day any day
― 138,683 Serious, Earnest Americans Emphasize Demand for Prepar (President Keyes), Sunday, 15 March 2026 17:18 (three months ago)
Than
― 138,683 Serious, Earnest Americans Emphasize Demand for Prepar (President Keyes), Sunday, 15 March 2026 17:19 (three months ago)
The Strange Case of Dr. Bansky and Mr. Morrissey
― Come On, (Eazy), Sunday, 15 March 2026 17:28 (three months ago)