Morrissey is a racist

Like shooting f ish in a oxygen bar,
re a lly.

Long Tim Jonze article in Guardian today

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/may/30/bigmouth-strikes-again-morrissey-songs-loneliness-shyness-misfits-far-right-party-tonight-show-jimmy-fallon

the url gives me the gist

Every time this happens there’s always a dozen articles with the title “bigmouth strikes again”, if only the smiths had done a song called “very stupid cunt keeps shitting himself let’s talk about it”

I'd gladly read that Tim Jonze long read if he was offering a $1 per word.

“the morrissey you, the further away i get”

xxxp it does. the article is 90% rehashing, but includes bits from a couple of interviews with Asian artists, also interesting to see how he has tried to manage all of this using lawyers but appears to have given up.

Around the time he sued NME, Morrissey forced the Word magazine into an apology over a review that said he was “paying lip service to anti-racism while talking like an old Tory immigration spokesman”

Why in the world would they apologize for that basic statement of fact

Because libel law in the UK is ridiculous and Morrissey likes to have his lawyers send out threatening letters and as far as editors are concerned it isn't worth the hassle?

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/may/30/bigmouth-strikes-again-morrissey-songs-loneliness-shyness-misfits-far-right-party-tonight-show-jimmy-fallon

― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, May 30, 2019 8:07 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I am just so glad that Morrissey isn't doing Misfits covers.

Because libel law in the UK is ridiculous and Morrissey likes to have his lawyers send out threatening letters and as far as editors are concerned it isn't worth the hassle?

Obviously! Although the statement was about as inarguable as "Morrissey has hair."

why is it always the worst ones who have hair?

Wow at the idea that what's being criticized about "Bengali in Platforms" is its "tone."

very stupid (la-di-da da-da)
very stupid (la-di-di-daaa)

wins, I think this could work

why is it always the worst ones who have hair?

Moz pretty clearly tolerates a certain amount of immigration to his scalp.

Irish Hair, English Arsehole

Yes, but was he a racist?

Was, is, and ever shall be

The past is a different country, but Morrissey is still racist there.

I just feel bad for all the people who named their cats Steven Meowrissey

He has tweeted someone's blog post in defense of himself. It's all about veganism and shaking things up, you idiots:

In his open support for the party For Britain , (which seems to have caused the most controversy in recent years) Morrissey has explained his admiration for the party leader's (Anne Marie Water) vegan lifestyle and huge dedication to animal protection. He has long expressed how he is tired of the same two political groups running the game again and again, he wants to see a shake up in politics, as many of us do. Much of the criticism levelled at Morrissey's endorsement of For Britain stems from accusations that the party are either “racist” or “anti-Islam” (a meaningless claim when you consider that even some ex-Muslims openly support the party, and they have members of all backgrounds).

It goes on.

https://www.tremr.com/Fiona-Dodwell/the-guardian-and-the-morrissey-vendetta

“racist” or “anti-Islam” (a meaningless claim when you consider that even some ex-Muslims openly support the party, and they have members of all backgrounds)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nazis_of_non-Germanic_descent

Any actual Muslims support this non-racist, non-Islamophoboc party?

so wait, morrissey's argument here is literally "hitler was a vegetarian"?

what's his backup argument, "hitler was a sensitive man"?

Hitler was a lesbian.

Some guy named 4chan said Hitler did nothing wrong.

Also, can we start a new thread titled 'Morrissey is a fascist'?

He could say Hitler was right to kill the Jews and legions of his fans would defend him and claim he's misunderstood.

... and that's no joke btw.

ol' Moz bringin' out the Godwin's law on ilx, gotta love it

what's his backup argument, "hitler was a sensitive man"?

Charming man

TS: Steven Patrick Morrissey vs Mikko Aspa

Godwin himself approves a common sense exception to invoking his law when ppl are discussing actual confirmed white supremacists tbfttl

By all means, compare these shitheads to Nazis. Again and again. I'm with you.

— Mike Godwin (@sfmnemonic) August 14, 2017

so pleased to finally meet you Mike...I've invoked your name countless times on message borads over the decades....

ol' Moz bringin' out the Godwin's law on ilx, gotta love it

Who asked you?

https://images.eil.com/large_image/THE_SMITHS_ASK%2B-%2BUNIQUE%2BGREEN%2BTINTED%2BSLEEVE-448777b.jpg

Much of the criticism levelled at Morrissey's endorsement of For Britain stems from accusations that the party are either “racist” or “anti-Islam” (a meaningless claim when you consider that even some ex-Muslims openly support the party

this might be the dumbest sentence I've ever seen

Much of the criticism levelled at Morrissey's endorsement of Darth Vader stems from accusations that he is either “a sith" or “anti-jedi” (a meaningless claim when you consider that even some ex-jedis openly support his reign of terror)

Defensive Morrissey Fans Take Gold In Mental Gymnastics

“Morrissey supporters are passionate enough to weather anything he says — they will make a quick Facebook post denouncing him, but still excitedly buy a ticket to see him live just minutes later,” said panel member Lorena Bosko. “I mean, less than two years ago, he victim-blamed Kevin Spacey’s accusers, criticized multiculturalism, and voiced his support of Brexit, all in the same interview… and his last album still charted!”

...

At press time, the ICPF announced that the mental gymnastics silver medal was awarded to fans of Chris Brown for the third year in a row, while the fans of Jake Paul were disqualified for all being under 16 and therefore too young for consideration.

Eh, I don't see any real contradiction in denouncing someone's actions or comments and still appreciating their artistic work.

Yes, worse to defend his comments and actions - which plenty of them do.

This should put any accusations to rest. https://youtu.be/tuEwsB_7Nm0

I still think this thread should be renamed "Morrissey's a racist, Morrissey's a racist, la la la la, la la la la.."

omg that dude's channel is ridiculous

long live buff correl

Confirmed:

Morrissey rethinks the personal and political power of pop music on California Son. https://t.co/QJSneKudaC #Morrissey #BobDylan #BryanFerry

— armond white (@3xchair) June 5, 2019

oh armondpaws

"Defending the recent controversy roused by performing his covers while wearing a pro-Brexit “For Britain” badge, political artist Morrissey recently insisted that"

It is not a "pro-Brexit" badge, it's a "pro-racism" badge. Nice try though Armand.

describing 'national front disco' as 'uniquely stirring' is some god-tier trolling

In his open support for the party For Britain , (which seems to have caused the most controversy in recent years) Morrissey has explained his admiration for the party leader's (Anne Marie Water) vegan lifestyle and huge dedication to animal protection.

want to vote for a party with a vegetarian leader? at the last uk general election, you had jeremy corbyn, tim farron and jonathan bartley to choose from and the last of whom is i think now vegan. the green party had explicit animal welfare policies in their manifesto. the labour party have a vegan mp (kerry mccarthy). pretending that amw is a lone voice for animals in uk politics is total bollocks

yeah he's obviously trying to get out of refunding people, but that's obviously not how it works lol

what a weird conceit to think this strategy and excuse will always work without complete reputational destruction.

*laughtrak groans*

he should have just said the show was cancelled because of woke

with all that not sleeping he was doing, he'd be right

26 Feb 2013 Los Angeles, CA – Jimmy Kimmel Live (cancelled due to Duck Dynasty; hollywoodreporter.com)

gave the new album a shot, made it 3/4 of the way through, extremely boring most of the time, occasionally dire, a few songs that were alright. there seems to be no reason for it to exist at all.

“Sing Me Spanish Techno”— i blame the New Pornographers for this cancellation

"impossible concert" is just the vegan, cruelty-free alternative to "concert". it's also known as "qoncert", depending on what store you go to.

I saw someone on Bluesky claiming (perhaps in jest, 'cause how the fuck would I know?) that the Smiths had once cancelled a show because Morrissey got stung by a bee.

okay

If a ten-tonne buzz, kills the both of us

The Village Voice in 1986, apparently:

The Smiths canceled several dates recently, including the September 16 sellout at Radio City. The official word was laryngitis, but rumor had it Morrissey was stung by a bee.

tbf i would totally call out from work for being bitten by a bee/extended insomnia

but those are among the (very few) reasons why i am not a legendary pop singer

From the English-language edition of El Pais:

The nightmare of organizing a Morrissey concert

Worth reading in full, but in case of future linkrot, two highlights:

According to a statement published on the artist’s website, the cause of this “sleep deprivation” was the noise from a street party with electronic music that was set up near the central hotel booked for him by his production office. This hotel was booked despite local promoters having warned about street closures and intense nighttime activity in downtown Valencia during the days leading up to the Fallas festival, the city’s world-famous festival of art, fire, food and music.

from the director of Benicassim, who was the press officer when Moz no-showed the festival in 2004:

“I try to separate the man from his work, but my opinion of Morrissey is basically that he’s a bad person, a misanthrope, and a racist who doesn’t care about canceling even if his band is already on stage and won’t get paid, or if his team has to endure the embarrassment of having to face the music for him. I’m telling you this as someone who bought a ticket to see Morrissey in Seville next week. It’s a shame, because I think that after a period of musical stagnation, these last few singles are worthwhile.”

Anyone who acknowledges that Morrissey is a racist but still pays to see him anyway deserves all they get. Or don't get.

Bingo

I wouldn’t hold anyone to a translation of a quote that was probably a condensation in the original, but in the English presentation he clearly agrees with you.

I have a good friend in Valencia, and naturally I asked him about this. Here is what he said, no doubt copied and pasted from his replies to various other friends also sending him silly Moz memes and inquiring about this:

It's the Fallas festival here. No one is getting any sleep. Terrible tour booking. I literally can't get into the city until a week Sunday when the roads open back up. Right now, it's kids throwing firecrackers, loud explosions through the night and 30' bonfires all throughout the city. [mutual friend] insisted on visiting at this time last year, against all advice, and had a thoroughly miserable time. We barely got to hang out.

Heaven knows I'm thoroughly miserable now.

teenagers with bonfires clearly hired by The Guardian to mock the great man's unreleased masterpiece Bonfire Of Teenagers :-(

Fallas festival, the city’s world-famous festival of art, fire, food and music.

Wait ... festival of fire? So ... fire fest? Suddenly this train wreck is making sense.

yeah, that word caught my attention too!

On the final night of Falles, around midnight on 19 March,[20] these falles are burnt as huge bonfires. This is known as La Cremà (the Burning), the climax of the whole event,[21] and the reason why the constructions are called falles ("torches"). Traditionally, the falla in the Plaça de l'Ajuntament is burned last.

Right now, it's kids throwing firecrackers, loud explosions through the night and 30' bonfires all throughout the city

he should have just said the show was cancelled because of woke

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hahahaha

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"we just did what we wanted to do and we have a bunch of nonsense reasons to say 'we get to do this'"

this is the wrong thread unless you've just dropped a major revelation

wrong thread indeed!

slightly disappointed

Still I’d rather be banksy that righteous or holy
Any day any day any day

Than

The Strange Case of Dr. Bansky and Mr. Morrissey