isn’t that book great?
― brimstead, Sunday, 19 May 2019 21:48 (five years ago) link
I end up chucking out all the borderline cases since there’s so much worthy stuff to nominate that is unambiguously ambient.
― brimstead, Sunday, 19 May 2019 21:51 (five years ago) link
Here’s a recent goodreads review I wrote for ocean of sound: I first read Ocean Of Sound in high school, and found it to be a dizzying and overwhelmingly intoxicating read. As the years went by and my sense of aesthetics developed, I would revisit passages and find myself becoming more and more in tune with its vision of music. Nowadays it's practically my bible. On my fourth or fifth front-to-back read now, I find myself emphatically thinking "Yes! Hell yes!" to the ideas of the musicians that Toop interviews/describes (as well as the ideas of Toop himself). This is a magical and inspiring work about various strands of non-programmatic 20th century music; music that drifts, music that explores, music that allows things to happen. It's sad that most "ambient" music these days is cheap programmed melodramatic soundtrack fodder. Yeah this book was written 20 years ago but the vast ocean (heh) of ideas and thoughtfood here will inspire any artist who is truly interested in transcendence.
― brimstead, Sunday, 19 May 2019 21:53 (five years ago) link
sorry
― brimstead, Sunday, 19 May 2019 21:54 (five years ago) link
Spotify playlist is mostly up to date, and hilariously long. I'll paste things I can't find on Spotify here, in case anyone knows better/has the benefit of local licencing/wants to do something else with them:
https://pastebin.com/kinHYBWn
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 20 May 2019 00:30 (five years ago) link
anybody know how to open that spotify link in app instead of in the browser?
― :∵·∴·∵: (crüt), Monday, 20 May 2019 00:43 (five years ago) link
if you search for Nag! Nag! Nag!'s username (empeecee), you should be able to find it in his public playlists
― lispectah deck (unregistered), Monday, 20 May 2019 00:55 (five years ago) link
and yeah, huge props to NNN for putting all that together
― lispectah deck (unregistered), Monday, 20 May 2019 00:56 (five years ago) link
Does the app like this better?spotify:user:empeecee:playlist:4fPPFJHHNihMjlO9GVEs6F
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 20 May 2019 00:57 (five years ago) link
nice! that did work, thanks! I did try searching by username before but didn't have any luck.
― :∵·∴·∵: (crüt), Monday, 20 May 2019 01:20 (five years ago) link
Alio Die & Mathias Grassow - Expanding HorizonASC - Nothing Is CertainAtrium Carceri - Ptahilbvdub - Return To TongluCarbon Based Lifeforms - World Of SleepersCircular - DivergentDeutsch Nepal - Tolerance (How the Servant Utilized His Masters)Entheogenic - Spontaneous IlluminationHerbst9 - Buried Under Time And SandIldjarn-Nidhogg - HardangerviddaIshq - OrchidKlaus Wiese, Ted de Jong & Mathias Grassow - el-Hadra: The Mystik DanceKreng - GrimoireNatural Snow Buildings - The Dance Of The Moon And The SunNorthaunt - Barren LandOöphoi & Tau Ceti - Celestial GeometriesOrganum - Birds' Wings Were Glued To Their Bodies And Their Feet Froze To The GroundOval - 94 DiskontRapoon - The Fires Of The BorderlandsSchiller - AtemlosShinjuku Thief - The Witch HavenSuspended Memories - Forgotten GodsSvartsinn - Elegies For The EndTroum & All Sides - ShutûnWhen - Svartedauen (The Black Death)V/A - ...And Even Wolves Hid Their Teeth And Tongue Wherever Shelter Was Given V/A - Ambient 4: Isolationism30/30
― Siegbran, Monday, 20 May 2019 08:01 (five years ago) link
Much as I like the 'big tent' definition and I appreciate that 'open music' can be created in many many forms, indeed music that drifts and feels organic & all that but I can't really bring myself to vote for Lee Scratch Perry or Kruder & Dorfmeister or Autechre or Penderecki or endlessly droning black metal records, in a poll like this even though you can credibly argue they're all ambient in one way or another.
― Siegbran, Monday, 20 May 2019 08:13 (five years ago) link
Arthur Russell - World of Echo
(2/30)
― paolo, Monday, 20 May 2019 08:56 (five years ago) link
Fabio Orsi - WinterreiseEzekiel Honig - Surfaces of a Broken Marching BandPan American - White Bird ReleaseFormer Selves - Selige SehnsuchtJack Jutson - Mother OfficialSarah Davachi - August HarpSarah Davachi - Baron CourtASC - Fervent DreamSecret Pyramid - Movements of NightWil Bolton - Quarry Park
10/30
― groovemaaan, Monday, 20 May 2019 09:56 (five years ago) link
ASC is going to suffer massively from vote splitting is he?
― Siegbran, Monday, 20 May 2019 13:52 (five years ago) link
I thought abt nominating that Organum record Siegbran, thanks. I think it qualifies here, some of their stuff is just too noisy but that one's massive and droney.
― Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Monday, 20 May 2019 14:02 (five years ago) link
Yes that’s a corker.
I’m now revisiting the When record, that might be a bit too noisy to warrant inclusion, these collage-type records certainly set a mood but ‘ambient’ doesn’t really fit the bill.
― Siegbran, Monday, 20 May 2019 14:46 (five years ago) link
oooh, I forgot about Shinjuku Thief, nice
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 20 May 2019 14:47 (five years ago) link
Natural Snow Buildings - The Dance Of The Moon And The Sun
Is this included in Daughters of Darkness?
― Tormund Giantsbabe (Leee), Monday, 20 May 2019 16:29 (five years ago) link
Daughter Of Darkness is a completely different album no?
― Siegbran, Monday, 20 May 2019 17:01 (five years ago) link
I was thinking the box set, which on review of the rules would not qualify.
― Tormund Giantsbabe (Leee), Monday, 20 May 2019 17:40 (five years ago) link
The Dance of the Moon and the Sun is glorious.
― Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Monday, 20 May 2019 18:38 (five years ago) link
Agreed about Feldman, especially, say, The Viola in My Life.
Can't believe I forgot to mention Rothko Chapel. I would actually be ok with that nom.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 10:55 (five years ago) link
Area C: Touch PiecesBarry Cleveland: MythosChristian Høy Knudsen: HavForest Management: DelicateKlaus Weise: Qumra IIKowalski Room: Modern Urban StarlightLightwave: Musique ProvisoireMichel Redolfi: Desert TracksMurmer: What Are The Roots That ClutchRobert Henke: Layering BuddhaStijn Hüwels: TomodachiSubterrene: Bathetic ResonanceTatsuya Nakatani: GongThe Young Gods: Music for Artificial CloudsThumpmonks: Noir SelectionsTor Lundvall: Empty CityWarmth: EssayZimoun: Drums
― Sassy Boutonnière (ledriver), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 01:57 (five years ago) link
Area C: Touch Pieces
Ledriver, this appears to be a 20 minute extra disc that came with the album "Charmed Birds Against Sorcery", not an album in its own right. Do you wish to nominate the whole 2 disc album?
Kara-Lis Coverdale - Grafts
Evan, this is an EP and it lasts only 22 minutes, so it doesn't meet the poll criteria. So you still have 23 nominations left.
― Tuomas, Thursday, 23 May 2019 19:28 (five years ago) link
I didn't even know it was an extra disc. I don't have the original. I withdraw that and will submit more if I think of some.
― Sassy Boutonnière (ledriver), Friday, 24 May 2019 00:25 (five years ago) link
Oh darn! 30 min or more, right. Got it.
― Evan, Friday, 24 May 2019 03:05 (five years ago) link
The nomination list should be up to date now, lemme know if anything is missing. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1X14B7JHAooNtfPbNilJ1xPshNaKBbL6q-8E1xUdM7xU
― Tuomas, Friday, 24 May 2019 05:23 (five years ago) link
Now I have my work cut out for me to find and listen to every one of these 500 albums and come to a fair and unbiased judgement of its relative rank.
― Sassy Boutonnière (ledriver), Friday, 24 May 2019 07:39 (five years ago) link
Boards of Canada - Music Has The Right To ChildrenBoards of Canada - GeogaddiBoards of Canada - The Campfire HeadphaseBoards of Canada - Tomorrow's HarvestBrian Eno - Another Green WorldArthur Russell - InstrumentalsJon Keliehor - The Beginning Of TimePendant - Make Me Know You SweetVarious Artists - Mono No AwareVarious Artists - bblissHappy Meals - Full Ashram Devotional Ceremony (Volumes IV - VI)Cucina Povera - HiljaCucina Povera - ZoomIona Fortune - Tao Of IPenelope Trappes - Penelope OneColleen - Captain Of NoneColleen - A Flame My Love, A FrequencyXYR - El DoradoHuerco S - UntitledPontiac Streator and Ulla Strauss - Chat
23/30
― paolo, Friday, 24 May 2019 09:15 (five years ago) link
Boards Of Canada ambient or IDM/Downtempo? I was also listening to that Hammock Kenotic record and while it's great, that's mostly a straight up shoegaze/postrock record with lots of uptempo beats.
― Siegbran, Friday, 24 May 2019 10:12 (five years ago) link
BoC have too many boring beats to be ambient.
― Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Friday, 24 May 2019 11:20 (five years ago) link
"Boring" and "ambient" in the same sentence?! I never! *clutches pearls*
However I do agree that BOC don't really strike me as ambient.
However however I am tickled that we've basically got Colleen's whole discography now (only missing her Mort Aux Vaches).
― Tormund Giantsbabe (Leee), Friday, 24 May 2019 16:16 (five years ago) link
Love Colleen but there’s not a single record of her that I’d consider ambient. Perhaps only Colleen et les Boîtes à Musique?
― Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 24 May 2019 16:45 (five years ago) link
List of nominations looks great. Extremely stoked.warpairobotsippingdaiquirionpoolfloatie.jpeg
― but everybody calls me, (lukas), Friday, 24 May 2019 16:48 (five years ago) link
Do we have a campaigning thread?
― Siegbran, Friday, 24 May 2019 16:50 (five years ago) link
I'm sad that David Sylvian's Gone to Earth sides 3/4 can't go in because of sides 1/2.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 24 May 2019 16:51 (five years ago) link
I hate to my nominations so Brian Eno-centric because, duh, but we have to make sure this one is on there:
Brian Eno - Lux
very underrated album in his catalog imo
― i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Friday, 24 May 2019 18:27 (five years ago) link
^^ was just listening to that the other day, quite nice
― Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Friday, 24 May 2019 18:29 (five years ago) link
sadly i'm sure Another Green World will absolutely destroy it in voting, since AGW was nominated. i (of course) adore AGW but it would be difficult to classify as "ambient" under even the most generous interpretation, yadayadayada
― i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Friday, 24 May 2019 18:35 (five years ago) link
Yeah, great album thought it is, can't see how that one fits. Almost half the tracks have vocals on them.
― groovypanda, Friday, 24 May 2019 19:25 (five years ago) link
Yeah, It's all songs!
― but everybody calls me, (lukas), Friday, 24 May 2019 20:02 (five years ago) link
Détrée - Architectura Celestis
8/30
― Evan, Friday, 24 May 2019 20:26 (five years ago) link
I will be voting for a fair amount of Eno, but not AGW
― Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Friday, 24 May 2019 20:51 (five years ago) link
‘discreet music’ the only truly ambient piece for me
― flopson, Friday, 24 May 2019 21:03 (five years ago) link
I kinda feel that beatless should be part of the criteria of ambient.
― Sassy Boutonnière (ledriver), Friday, 24 May 2019 21:13 (five years ago) link
ambient music isn’t the same as chillout music or whatever
― brimstead, Friday, 24 May 2019 21:19 (five years ago) link
If AGW is ambient I'm out.
― Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Friday, 24 May 2019 21:45 (five years ago) link
The voters are revolting.
― Tormund Giantsbabe (Leee), Friday, 24 May 2019 23:29 (five years ago) link
*the undulating sounds of pickets waving gently in the air, slowly mixing in with the crackles of torches*
― i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Friday, 24 May 2019 23:41 (five years ago) link