Your nominations for the ILX AMBIENT ALBUMS POLL (nominations close on Friday, May 31st)

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Just rename it it "the ambient/new age/drone/space/bio/furniture/vibes" poll and call it a day

dragged across concrète (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 17 May 2019 19:09 (seven years ago)

^^^

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Friday, 17 May 2019 19:20 (seven years ago)

I'd also like to cull some entries, lest it become the arty electronica poll. Will take a stab this weekend.

but everybody calls me, (lukas), Friday, 17 May 2019 19:21 (seven years ago)

You guys are so embarrassed by nerds arguing about genre boundaries that you don't think it's worthwhile to try singling out the best ambient albums?

but everybody calls me, (lukas), Friday, 17 May 2019 19:23 (seven years ago)

I was OK with looking at this as a poll of non-beat-oriented drone-like music with an electronic component and accepting all of it but Steve Reich did raise my hackles a little: although there is definitely a connection between minimalism and ambient, Reich was going for something that would inspire "closely detailed listening", arguably the opposite of "non-intrusive background music". Music for 18 is also very rhythmic and entirely acoustic, if that matters. Still, there IS a connection so.

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Friday, 17 May 2019 19:24 (seven years ago)

There's a connection, but I don't feel at all bad about drawing a line that excludes all Reich. Trust me, he wouldn't want to be in this poll anyway.

but everybody calls me, (lukas), Friday, 17 May 2019 19:28 (seven years ago)

Giusto Pio-Motore Immobile
Andrew Chalk-Baroque Screens
Andrew Chal-The Cable House
Vikki Jackman-Whispering Pages
Jan Jelinek/Masayoshi Fujita-Bird Lake Objects
Michael Brook-Hybrid
Arp-Inversions
Inoyama Land-Danzindan Pojidon
Dean McPhee-Four Stones
Gas-Zauberberg
Ian Middleton-Well of Sorrows
Jonathan Fitoussi-Imaginary Lines
Robert Turman-Beyond Painting

13/30, with apologies for genre boundaries/definitions etc.

nerve_pylon, Friday, 17 May 2019 19:50 (seven years ago)

The Seven Fields of Aphelion - Keep the Ocean Inside

4/30

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 17 May 2019 19:57 (seven years ago)

There's a connection, but I don't feel at all bad about drawing a line that excludes all Reich. Trust me, he wouldn't want to be in this poll anyway.

THE POLL THAT STEVE REICH DOESN'T WANT YOU TO VOTE IN.

Soccer Team's Philosophies and Hypotheses (Leee), Friday, 17 May 2019 20:01 (seven years ago)

NUMBER FIVE WILL SHOCK YOU!

Soccer Team's Philosophies and Hypotheses (Leee), Friday, 17 May 2019 20:01 (seven years ago)

PGWP, you nominated this, but neither Discogs nor Wikipedia has any info on Growing having released a self-titled album... Which album did you mean?

― Tuomas, Friday, May 17, 2019 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Sorry, it's The Soul of the Rainbow and the Harmony of Light. For some reason Spotify lists it as s/t though I knew that was incorrect!

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Friday, 17 May 2019 20:04 (seven years ago)

Ok, thanks!

Tuomas, Friday, 17 May 2019 20:32 (seven years ago)

Steve Reich - Music For 18 Musicians

Groovypanda, you nominated this, but there are several different recordings of this composition. Which one do you want to nominate?

Tuomas, Friday, 17 May 2019 20:34 (seven years ago)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1X14B7JHAooNtfPbNilJ1xPshNaKBbL6q-8E1xUdM7xU

Here's a link to the nominations so far, lemme know if something's missing. (I've corrected some of the artist and album names, so your nomination might be elsewhere alphabetically.)

Tuomas, Friday, 17 May 2019 21:15 (seven years ago)

As for the debate on what's ambient, I have no way of making that judgement, so I'm not gonna disqualify anything... And the nomination process in polls like this is always a bit messy, but I do agree that this is not a poll for just any kind of minimal music, or music to smoke weed to, or experimental/artsy electronic music in general. So hopefully when it comes the time to vote you do stop to consider that ambient is narrower than those definitions, even if it's not easily defined by conventional genre boundaries.

Tuomas, Friday, 17 May 2019 21:28 (seven years ago)

SunnO))) - Flight of the Behemoth

dragged across concrète (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 17 May 2019 21:39 (seven years ago)

I mean, I loathe to use Pitchfork as a measuring stick, but their list, which includes a KFW intro and blurb by a bunch ppl who are over the age of 35 (Beta/Sherburne/Richardson/Masters/Reynolds) has a very open attitude towards what is considered "ambient"

https://pitchfork.com/features/lists-and-guides/9948-the-50-best-ambient-albums-of-all-time/

dragged across concrète (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 17 May 2019 21:48 (seven years ago)

fantastic work tuomas

personally prefer a wide definition myself

Milton Parker, Friday, 17 May 2019 21:52 (seven years ago)

I mean, everyone can vote for THE ARTIST CLEARLY INTENDED THIS MODULAR SYNTH RECORD AS MUSIQUE D'AMEUBLEMENT PER THE DICTATES OF SATIE but that's not as fun imo

dragged across concrète (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 17 May 2019 21:57 (seven years ago)

Also, I'm probably very close to my full noms but here's some big dogs that we've overlooked in case someone else wants to nominate them

Mort Garson - Plantasia
Philip Corner - Satie Slowly
Raymond Scott - Soothing Sounds for Babies Vol. 1
Raymond Scott - Soothing Sounds for Babies Vol. 2

dragged across concrète (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 17 May 2019 22:02 (seven years ago)

Colleen - Les Ondes Silencieuses

15/30

Soccer Team's Philosophies and Hypotheses (Leee), Friday, 17 May 2019 22:03 (seven years ago)

Fripp and Eno - No Pussyfooting
Sakamoto and Alva Noto - Vrioon

29 facepalms, Friday, 17 May 2019 22:18 (seven years ago)

Vangelis, "L'Apocalypse des animaux"

Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Friday, 17 May 2019 22:22 (seven years ago)

Steve Roach - The Magnificent Void
Steve Roach - Quiet Music

Brad C., Friday, 17 May 2019 22:25 (seven years ago)

Robert Rich - Calling Down the Sky
Robert Rich - Humidity

Brad C., Friday, 17 May 2019 22:30 (seven years ago)

The Necks - Mosquito
Johan Johansson - Fordlandia

29 facepalms, Friday, 17 May 2019 22:30 (seven years ago)

Looks like I get five more

Raymond Scott - Soothing Sounds for Babies Vol. 1
Bohren and Der Club of Gore - Black Earth

dragged across concrète (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 17 May 2019 22:36 (seven years ago)

that pitchfork list is kinda dumb, we talked about it at the time. like tim hecker, fennesz, pretty laptop noise... lol

brimstead, Friday, 17 May 2019 22:37 (seven years ago)

Sorry

brimstead, Friday, 17 May 2019 22:38 (seven years ago)

After 5-6 weeks of listing to Bacharach songs this will be a nice tonic.

WmC, Friday, 17 May 2019 22:49 (seven years ago)

but that's not as fun imo

Part of the fun for me here is trying to figure out why some records feel ambient to me and some don't. Replica? Returnal? Persian Surgery Dervishes? Some of my favorite records, but they scratch a different itch.

But say Rifts isn't my definition of ambient either but fine, it's definitely part of the same fantasy musical universe as Structures From Silence.

So it is written, so shall it be done.

but everybody calls me, (lukas), Friday, 17 May 2019 22:50 (seven years ago)

Eno Moebius Rodelius - After the Heat

29 facepalms, Friday, 17 May 2019 22:54 (seven years ago)

Oöphoi – Static Soundscapes: Three Lights At the End of the World
Antrilon – Mind Erase
MWVM – Rotations
Lull – Like A Slow River
Hazard – Wood
Deep Magic / Pine Smoke Lodge – Split

15/30

:∵·∴·∵: (crüt), Saturday, 18 May 2019 04:00 (seven years ago)

Les Halles – Transient

16/30

:∵·∴·∵: (crüt), Saturday, 18 May 2019 04:03 (seven years ago)

^^^ good one

brimstead, Saturday, 18 May 2019 04:44 (seven years ago)

I think ambient-ness for me has something to do with difficulty of perceiving movement, lack of drama, also just a general diffusiveness and um.... driftiness... a sense of distance/absence/“not there”-ness, indirect, sonic blankets

Fennesz/Tim hecker include plenty of actual bursts of noise. and bald faced emotion. I like em both

Steve Reich/tony Conrad/Niblock stuff is so intense and lysergic it just doesn’t float or sit enough

I also hate sentimental gooey “ambient” that sounds like it could soundtrack a serious moment in a stupid movie/tv show. The ambient equiv of like Explosions In the Sky.

Ok end rant, only posi non-annoying brimstead from now on promise

brimstead, Saturday, 18 May 2019 04:57 (seven years ago)

Norman Westberg – 13
Mark Wastell – Come Crimson Rays

18/30

:∵·∴·∵: (crüt), Saturday, 18 May 2019 05:26 (seven years ago)

Irresistible Force - Dreamfish

This should be: Dreamfish - Dreamfish, and is Mixmaster Morris + Pete Namlook

beard papa, Saturday, 18 May 2019 06:06 (seven years ago)

I also hate sentimental gooey “ambient” that sounds like it could soundtrack a serious moment in a stupid movie/tv show.

pleasantly surprised to see no bvdub yet

groovemaaan, Saturday, 18 May 2019 06:14 (seven years ago)

beard papa at 9:06 18 May 19

Irresistible Force - Dreamfish

This should be: Dreamfish - Dreamfish, and is Mixmaster Morris + Pete Namlook
Yes, I corrected this in the nomination list above, as well as some other FAX artist names. The rule of thumb for their releases is that the artist name is the same as the project name (so, for example, the four 2350 Broadway albums were released as "2350 Broadway", not as "Pete Namlook & Tetsu Inoue"), unless the album cover has the artist name and the album name separately.

Though, confusingly enough, the Ambient World reissues break this rule, but I'll stick to the original FAX releases with the artist names.

Tuomas, Saturday, 18 May 2019 06:35 (seven years ago)

I've updated the nomination list, the link above still works, but here it is again:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1X14B7JHAooNtfPbNilJ1xPshNaKBbL6q-8E1xUdM7xU

Tuomas, Saturday, 18 May 2019 08:15 (seven years ago)

Alain Presencer - The Singing Bowls of Tibet

1/30

dogs, Saturday, 18 May 2019 11:16 (seven years ago)

I haven’t missed a playlist for the nominations, have I?

I am using your worlds, Saturday, 18 May 2019 11:22 (seven years ago)

gas - narkopop

9/30

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Saturday, 18 May 2019 11:34 (seven years ago)

ta for correcting the dreamfish mistake folks.

mark e, Saturday, 18 May 2019 11:55 (seven years ago)

I haven’t missed a playlist for the nominations, have I?

If you start listening now you should get about halfway through by the time voting closes.

groovypanda, Saturday, 18 May 2019 12:56 (seven years ago)

Tuomas at 9:34 17 May 19

Steve Reich - Music For 18 Musicians

Groovypanda, you nominated this, but there are several different recordings of this composition. Which one do you want to nominate?


Not sure. The original 1978 release I guess. Not bothered if it's left out if people don't think it's ambient as I possibly wouldn't vote for it anyway.

groovypanda, Saturday, 18 May 2019 12:59 (seven years ago)

If you start listening now you should get about halfway through by the time voting closes.

I plan on sampling as many singles as possible.

pomenitul, Saturday, 18 May 2019 13:04 (seven years ago)

I haven’t missed a playlist for the nominations, have I?
I don't have a Spotify account, but if someone else wants to start a playlist, that'd be awesome.

Tuomas, Saturday, 18 May 2019 14:10 (seven years ago)

E2-E4 (Radio Edit) xp

groovypanda, Saturday, 18 May 2019 14:31 (seven years ago)


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