I think every writer can get haters. I've had the drunk director posting a tirade on facebook about how I'm a psycho rapist, and the leader of the association of Danish cinemas sending me twitter messages late at night saying I should be put in a mental institution. Oh yeah, and a photographer talking about gathering a group of strong guys and getting me into a truck and making me see things a different way. I think the key is to write about feminism.
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 24 April 2019 14:47 (seven years ago)
Was it this truck?
https://nw3tonyc.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/hunk.jpg
― Evan, Wednesday, 24 April 2019 15:50 (seven years ago)
oh yeah! everyone was really nice about it tbh. it just became unsustainable (probably because i didn't have anyone funding it). life!
― maura, Wednesday, 24 April 2019 15:52 (seven years ago)
Ah so <3 it was such a good magazine!!
― flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 24 April 2019 15:55 (seven years ago)
thank you!! i miss it!!
― maura, Wednesday, 24 April 2019 16:20 (seven years ago)
it was indeed v unsustainable
i tried to make an archival website for maura mag two years ago but the web designer ghosted me about halfway through the process. if anyone here wants to help i have a very difficult to parse xml file and some money to offer
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 24 April 2019 16:25 (seven years ago)
portugal. the man fans. over thanksgiving.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 24 April 2019 16:46 (seven years ago)
portugal, the man vs maura, the mag
― Simon H., Wednesday, 24 April 2019 16:51 (seven years ago)
I think every writer can get haters. I've had the drunk director posting a tirade on facebook about how I'm a psycho rapist, and the leader of the association of Danish cinemas sending me twitter messages late at night saying I should be put in a mental institution. Oh yeah, and a photographer talking about gathering a group of strong guys and getting me into a truck and making me see things a different way. I think the key is to write about feminism. politics, on ILX
― Frederik B, Thursday, April 25, 2019 12:47 AM (four hours ago)
― blokes you can't rust (sic), Wednesday, 24 April 2019 19:12 (seven years ago)
the big difference is that musicians, at least at the level we are talking here, are generally paid way more than writers are, or at least have more gross if not net revenue
― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Wednesday, 24 April 2019 19:21 (seven years ago)
for instance, with the ariana grande thing just now, I am fairly certain she can make more in one day than I have in my entire life to date, and probably my entire upcoming life
― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Wednesday, 24 April 2019 19:23 (seven years ago)
actually, there are two major differences, the second being counterbalances. musicians in general get far more counterbalancing positive feedback than writers do (often, they get none)
― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Wednesday, 24 April 2019 20:33 (seven years ago)
This longish thread is worth reading.
I prefer criticism to fiction if only because I like to see the blueprints of things.— in-house antiquarian (@apotrafied) April 24, 2019
...we’ve gotten to a point in mass art/ mass culture where three quarters of the things we’re being subjected to DON’T stand up on their own WITHOUT criticism. It’s a point I keep returning to, but a number of works only become compelling because they’re given the intellectual veneer of importance by critics (some of whom were actually good) who were high on Barthes and poptimism.Criticism became an extension of PR, and there was a period where we split the difference between craft, social implications, and “how the sausage was made”. A number of acts coasted by on people putting acts into a socio-political context that they *really* did not deserve.Acts like Ariana Grande benefitted from a kind of “girls and queer kids love this stuff & it is oppressive to criticize their tastes”, and people mistook *brands* for the fans they represented, and we forgot that a lot of mass art & entertainment only works as a way to sell people a way OUT of the alienation, however temporarily. It became more fun to *think* about these kinds of entities than it was to experience them. And the more *types* you can attract to a product, the more likely producers, execs, etc. are to invest.
It’s a point I keep returning to, but a number of works only become compelling because they’re given the intellectual veneer of importance by critics (some of whom were actually good) who were high on Barthes and poptimism.
Criticism became an extension of PR, and there was a period where we split the difference between craft, social implications, and “how the sausage was made”. A number of acts coasted by on people putting acts into a socio-political context that they *really* did not deserve.
Acts like Ariana Grande benefitted from a kind of “girls and queer kids love this stuff & it is oppressive to criticize their tastes”, and people mistook *brands* for the fans they represented, and we forgot that a lot of mass art & entertainment only works as a way to sell people a way OUT of the alienation, however temporarily.
It became more fun to *think* about these kinds of entities than it was to experience them. And the more *types* you can attract to a product, the more likely producers, execs, etc. are to invest.
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Wednesday, 24 April 2019 21:31 (seven years ago)
this is a very strange thread to apply to ariana grande, whose music is generally well-crafted mariah carey pastiche and even at its worst ("7 Rings") cannot be described as "the compulsive repetition of one word over and over again" (as if that's even a bad thing by definition)
― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Wednesday, 24 April 2019 22:03 (seven years ago)
like, this is basically just the old "pop music sucks" argument dressed up a bit ,and you can tell because the entire argument falls apart if you do not take "this music has no value" as a given
― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Wednesday, 24 April 2019 22:06 (seven years ago)
don't worry we've already collectively as a culture determined that music has no value
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 24 April 2019 22:08 (seven years ago)
I’m very interested in the ways that Feeling Things About Media has in some respects supplanted media in the digital age & what this means for the people who make a living doing both but that thread is a... suboptimal exploration of the topic
― You can't see it but I had an epiphany (Champiness), Wednesday, 24 April 2019 22:56 (seven years ago)
stick to jazz & metal, phil
― get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Thursday, 25 April 2019 04:29 (seven years ago)
ah, "socio-political context" again
― ogmor, Thursday, 25 April 2019 07:16 (seven years ago)
Chris Brown Attacks Chvrches: “These Are the Type of People I Wish Walked In Front of a Speeding Bus”
was this really necessary
― Simon H., Monday, 29 April 2019 14:02 (seven years ago)
i generally assume Chris Brown hopes everyone he knows that isn't in his immediate entourage gets hit by a bus
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 29 April 2019 14:43 (seven years ago)
I was intrigued by the specificity of the speeding bus being "full of mental patients"
― dorsalstop, Monday, 29 April 2019 15:02 (seven years ago)
Woodstock 50 Is Canceled, Unless It’s Not—Here’s Why
― omar little, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 20:49 (seven years ago)
I thought you were writing a joke clickhole parody title based on something on the site but turns out it does say that exactly
― Evan, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 21:57 (seven years ago)
that's a good headline
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 30 April 2019 22:07 (seven years ago)
Woodstock 50 Is Canceled, Unless It’s Not—Here’s Why (or Why Not, and That's Okay)
fixed
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 22:09 (seven years ago)
Pitchfork is finally covering the law of excluded middle.
― jmm, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 22:15 (seven years ago)
The Libertines’ Peter Doherty Hospitalized After Being Injured by a Hedgehog^now, that’s a good headline!
― get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 11:50 (seven years ago)
Quite the news cycle for hedgehogs
― mourning joe (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 12:27 (seven years ago)
There's a pretty hilarious piece of sponcon up today:
The Glorious Past and Promising Future of the RVSPONSOR CONTENT GO RVING
SPONSOR CONTENT GO RVING
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 13:10 (seven years ago)
This has probably already been done, but why are the Isley Brothers headlining the P4K festival?
― Position Position, Wednesday, 8 May 2019 17:09 (seven years ago)
gotta get those R. Kelly songs in there somehow
― dragged across concrète (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 8 May 2019 17:16 (seven years ago)
lol
the thing about pfork fest compared to other festivals is that it's remained pretty small and accessible (hasn't moved off it's small-ish site on the west side in years) & as such legitimately serves a local audience. you'd be surprised by the number of ppl who live in chicago and show up to pfork fest w/o knowing that there's a music review site of the same name, or with only the vaguest idea, or have heard of the site but don't ever read it. further -- and this is just a hypothesis based on having attended the festival a few times incl the year r kelly played -- is that part of the legacy of pfork booking r kelly is that it opened the festival to an audience of local black residents, esp older black ppl who, again, broadly speaking likely have no idea what pitchfork.com is all about. i think you can see this reflected in recent bookings incl isely bros, chaka kahn, raphael saddiq etc.
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 8 May 2019 17:45 (seven years ago)
cuz funktimism!
― maffew12, Wednesday, 8 May 2019 17:53 (seven years ago)
Whether they're lip-syncing at this point is irrelevant— the Isley Brothers will be a good party. That's what matters at these outdoor festivals.
― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Wednesday, 8 May 2019 21:30 (seven years ago)
Chaka Khan was fucking great last year. No signs of slack. The Sunday-in-the-park crowd loved it and even the white people were, holy shit.
― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 May 2019 21:43 (seven years ago)
cosign on Chaka Khan absolutely *destroying* the Oakland Pride crowd almost ten years ago. never seen a more diverse, happy crowd just feeling ecstatic.
― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Wednesday, 8 May 2019 21:48 (seven years ago)
Looks like the Fork got all Sonic Youthed out overnight. I still don't understand the point of dishing out 9.8s.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 9 May 2019 08:14 (seven years ago)
I skimmed the EJST&NS piece — it’s all “historical context,” and says very little about the music.
― get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Thursday, 9 May 2019 15:14 (seven years ago)
Writing about music is hard.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 9 May 2019 15:15 (seven years ago)
there are all manner of guitars doing things that seemingly only Thurston Moore and Lee Ranaldo knew how to make them do. Buzz Bin-worthy single “Bull in the Heather” and “Skink” are Kim Gordon at her Kim Gordon-est
Lee and Thurston were doing Lee and Thurston stuff. Kim was being Kim. What more do you want? A sentence about Steve Shelley?
― We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Thursday, 9 May 2019 15:19 (seven years ago)
uh I thought "Bull in the Heather" did make Buzz Bin
― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 May 2019 15:21 (seven years ago)
"Lee and Thurston were doing Lee and Thurston stuff. Kim was being Kim. What more do you want? A sentence about Steve Shelley?"
Ha ha ha ha
― does it look like i'm here (jon123), Thursday, 9 May 2019 15:40 (seven years ago)
steve shelley pounded his drums in trademark Steve Shelley-style
― these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Thursday, 9 May 2019 15:47 (seven years ago)
Kinda weird to me that in the review of Washing Machine there’s no mention of the title track, while “Junkie’s Promise” and a song from Dirty each get heir own paragraph.
Also - The song is sung by bass player Kim Gordon, who actually really speaks more than sings
― JoeStork, Thursday, 9 May 2019 18:56 (seven years ago)
Washing Machine review is painful. The album’s middle section is hit and miss, though the same could likely be said for all alternative rock records made in the mid-’90s
...On the other hand, reading a review of a guitar album written in this tone of clueless faux-professorial unearned authority on pitchfork dot com in 2019 makes me kind of nostalgic tbh
― One Eye Open, Thursday, 9 May 2019 19:25 (seven years ago)
well i recognize some of the bylines from way back but how many of these reviewers are writing about records older than themselves
― j., Thursday, 9 May 2019 20:26 (seven years ago)
On the sequel to last year’s Eat My Pussy, the Chicago rapper’s songwriting is at times more brazen and at others more introspective.
this reads like satire
― Paul Ponzi, Friday, 10 May 2019 14:31 (seven years ago)
lol straight outta Fear of a Black Hat
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 10 May 2019 14:33 (seven years ago)
The first thing I thought of when I saw that review was that "King PU$$Y Eater revolutionizes our perception of bodies and spaces with his hit single "Goop on Ya Grinch" [7.6]" tweet.
― triggercut, Friday, 10 May 2019 14:42 (seven years ago)