Why does Lady Gaga get a free pass from hipsters?

yeah thats right PEACHES but DUMBER

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i like that a troll thread is going for the century in under 2 hours.

is this what we've become?

kind of mystified by the hatred lady gaga inspires but i want to remind everybody that the more u hate her and the more vocal about that hate u are, the more fuel you are adding to the fire of the fools who want to believe shes transgressive in some kind of transcendently campy way

britney is so much more accepted by the discerning crowd.

if it weren't for the lack of brit slang crap i would swear makeitpop was from england, yes THAT weirdly clueless and out of touch

no one fucking likes lady gaga

i think this is otm

'Just Dance' may have captured your fancy right now but you will never remember it in the future.

― Le présent se dégrade, d'abord en histoire, puis en (Michael White), Wednesday, June 10, 2009 9:55 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

That's what makes it a good pop song.

― touch my bum / this is life (daavid), Wednesday, June 10, 2009 9:59 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah good pop songs aren't memorable, everyone knows that

well i mean what hipster movement is this thread about exactly? if anything lady gaga has inspired a bunch of tl;dr bullshit on ILX (see: that one thread about the vacuousness of pop or whatever) about how terrible she is, it's the gays and the mainstream fans that seem to be building her up the most.

we're through the looking glass here people

i don't think the gays are that powerful

it's the gays and the mainstream fans that seem to be building her up the most.

those gays... they used to have such good taste

well i mean what hipster movement is this thread about exactly?

i believe it is the rolling stone hipster demographic

hepcats dig her jive

i don't think the gays are that powerful

― let free dom ring (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, June 10, 2009 10:12 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i dunno with all that working out you'd think gays could bench quite a bit

If it helps, my working definition of hipster would be: people who fancy themselves as smart and cool.

^^^ confirmed britisher sighting!

fancy!

oh no maybe not

no way hipsters are always snogging a bag of crisps in their anorak and what ho

i like that a troll thread is going for the century in under 2 hours.

― suggestzybandias (jim), Wednesday, June 10, 2009 10:07 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

Where/who are the trolls? I thought we all more or less agreed here.

Pants!

i fancy myself as smart and cool

i smart myself as cool and fancy

M@tt's post made me chortle

'Just Dance' may have captured your fancy right now but you will never remember it in the future.

― Le présent se dégrade, d'abord en histoire, puis en (Michael White), Wednesday, June 10, 2009 9:55 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

That's what makes it a good pop song.

― touch my bum / this is life (daavid), Wednesday, June 10, 2009 9:59 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah good pop songs aren't memorable, everyone knows that

― i would never want a book's autograph (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, June 10, 2009 10:09 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark

OK what I meant is that it's the kind of song that sounds amazing for like two weeks and then it becomes totally irrelevant, and that's not a bad thing IMO.

why hello dere

can't agree there old sport

If it helps, my working definition of hipster would be: people who fancy themselves as smart and cool.

― makeitpop

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I don't hate 'Just Dance' but I never hum it, is all I'm saying and I hum stupid-ass songs from every decade I've been alive (and quite a few from ones even before that).

I basically don't know anyone who is thumbs-upping Lady GaGa while hating on Britney et al. I mean, I'd be surprised to find a hipster who likes "Just Dance" but can't stand "Toxic."

I would concur with jaymc but then this occurred to me:

I basically don't know anyone who is thumbs-upping Lady GaGa while hating on Britney et al. I mean, I'd be surprised to find a hipster who likes "Just Dance" but can't stand "Toxic."

I imagine you know a few online, michael

I guess the difference would be that Britney is almost always appreciated ironically by hipsters, whereas Gaga seems to be sincerely accepted with little reservation (yes, that's a lot of generalizations). This, despite the fact that the actual style of their music is nearly identical.

that is completely wrong

makeitstop

makeitso

lady gaga/star trek TNG fanfic to thread!

Most of the really big boosts of Lady Gaga I've seen have come from critics who both like chart-pop and like the idea of a performer with a story, a self-determined visual aesthetic, a backstory, a soundbite-friendly interview style etc.

These aren't Geir-people (they still listen to Britney regardless) but the "she's the new Madonna" claim doeshave traction for these types.

They're both gay and straight. My tl;dr post about vacuous pop didn't really go into why people would like gaga (or why gay people would) but I would say a specifically or self-consciously "gay" appreciation of Lady Gaga would also include an in-built appreciation for her ridiculousness - the fashion shoots and photographs that go beyond wacky and into disastrous territory, the ludicrousness of her claims for herself, the way her music can seem generic and idiosyncratic at the same time etc. etc.

Whereas the not-specifically-gay version would usually play down the appreciation-of-failure side of things.

Having said that, I don't think her commercial success is founded on either types of people.

no her commercial success is founded on the fact that she was the first woman to successfully plant her flag at the top of Mount Hipster, apparently

pass was only free cause she grifted it

The gays are okay with her. It's enough.

Why does ilx hate her so? Is she really overexposed in places that aren't Australia? Because here she can be one of the handful of songs occasionally played on commercial radio that you don't mind.

she's basically an art school kid that made it big doing her own thing and comes off as such which is why that crowd goes for it.
whether or not you like her it's stupid to make the aguilera / spears comparison

or use "hipsters" in 2009

but whatever.

― fauxmarc, Wednesday, June 10, 2009 4:26 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this is totally wrong i think. she doesnt really have those fans except for that small niche of ppl already into chart pop. her main fanbase is, & i dont mean this in a particularly condescending way although it might sound like i do, women who go clubbing & liked sex & the city a whole lot. its getting young yuppie love, basically, at least from the ladies. its popular shit. i dont really know any hip trendy folks who are into it except as, like, an ironic thing

like, i dont think anyone is convinced by her 'art school' thing -- i dont think you're supposed to be convinced by it?? i think her fans see it as like, her 'hobby' or as an affect, not as an identity

its like, ironic art school

makeitpop is kbp, right?

we r all kbp now