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MW MFW 004 Various Mo Wax vs. Major Force: Time Has Come (12")
MW MFW 004 Various Mo Wax vs. Major Force: Time Has Come (12", Promo, W/Lbl

Are these two releases actually different btw?

yes, the second one is "Promo, W/Lbl", you ask such dense questions sometimes

Haha well I want to be sure. Have to complete my Jimmy Lavelle collection ya know.

mo wax put out some pretty turgid stuff over the years didn't they ? i couldn't stand attica blues for example. at least flying lotus has some bounce in his beats. will be interesting to see what he comes up with for the latest mary anne hobbs round up...

Radio 1 bass queen and biker chick Mary Anne Hobbs follows up The Warrior Dubz with a new unmixed compilation Evangeline for Planet Mu.

Like her first compilation The Warrior Dubz (2006), Evangeline brings together cuts from established names in dubstep (Pinch, Boxcutter, Shackleton), grime (Wiley) and techno (Surgeon, Claro Intelecto) with newcomers such as Unitz and Ben Frost. The compilation also includes cuts from two anonymous (but presumably well-known) producers: Cult Of The 13th Hour and Dakimh.

Tracklist

CD

01 Ital Tek – Archaic
02 Unitz – The Drop (CD only)
03 Shackleton – In The Void
04 Cult Of The 13th Hour – The Way Of The Gun
05 Wiley – Local Lad
06 Headhunter vs Ekelon – Timewarp
07 Darqwan – Universal Wan-ting
08 Ben Frost – Theory Of Machines
09 Flying Lotus – Flattery (Sympathy For The Biters)
10 Dakimh - Done
11 DJ Pinch – E Motiv
12 Magnetic Man – Ligma VIP
13 Tes La Rok feat Uncle Sam – Up In The VIP (CD only)
14 Surgeon – Right Road To Dubland
15 Boxcutter – Kab 27
16 Claro Intelecto – Beautiful Death

you're complaining about turgid on a dubstep thread?

haha - yes this is hardly the place for using that word.

Flying Lotus is really very boring.

But Appleblim's compilation looks excellent. "Infinity Is Now" is one of my tracks of the year, and 2562 can't really do anything wrong at the moment. Same pretty much true for TRG and Martyn.

flying lotus's "dance floor stalker" is a lovely track.

tim finney = OTM, 99% of the time

i'll get my coat. (i still stand by flying lotus though)

this might be that 1%

sometimes i wonder why so much stuff that i find "relaxing" other people label "boring"

lol@carl craig's thoughts on dubstep -
http://www.thewire.co.uk/articles/948/?pageno=7
Do you follow Dubstep?
Not actively, no. I had this really intense conversation with a guy at Rush Hour records in Amsterdam, a guy that was shopping there. He was almost, he was trying to force me to like Dubstep. You know, to just — to just tell him that I thought it was amazing. I was like, "I don't even know!" I know what Dubstep is but I don't know much of the music. He's like, "Ok, listen to this!" And the track that he played was a really boring dub reggae-ish record. Dub is great for three minutes each track. But 10 minutes, it's like, what the fuck is this? I like music. I don't care if it's Techno or House or dub reggae or Trance… Ok, I do kinda there. But if it's a good track, that's what I'm interested in. I don't care what style it is. If fucking Britney Spears makes a track that's good, I'm gonna like it.

The appleblim is definitely great - i heard a good 2/3 of it ahead of time but it still mixes nice.

Carl Craig otm

Really great mix and nice that tempa aren't just pushing the jump-up-dulltard-bullshit which is surely where, relatively, the big bucks are in dubstep.

Echo Tim's sentiments on TRG (Ramadanman refix isn't too clever however), 2562 & Martyn

Nice vocal tracks too.

And I just realised that the pretty decent Pinch track is from his album which I never picked up because I heard a few tracks and the MC on top of them was heavy shite. Need to reassess that decision.

http://img.snowrecords.com/cd/C878.jpg

pubstep.

Jim the CD version of the Pinch album comes with a bonus disc of instrumentals, and the vocal version and the instrumental version are sold separately on vinyl.

almost -- there is no vocal version on vinyl. two of the tracks got released on a separate 12", but that's it.

I did know about the instrumental disc but I kinda felt reluctant to buy an album I thought was rubbish just to listen to the instrumentals. Think it might just have been Juakali that I was hating on.

wow, it makes me happy that scuba mix up thread is still available. good stuff.

Nothing on Burial?

I am no master of dubstep, but I would have assumed this guy would be at least mentioned!

I love both the albums.

Yeah clearly not enough Burial talk here on ILX.

Yeah clearly not enough Burial talk here on ILX.

-- Alex in SF,

lol

our work: I think you're looking for this thread: Burial

Astley could take on Burial anyday.

well, yeah

so, APPLEBLIM ... any good

which of these is best:

dubstep allstars six (appleblim)
rinse 02 (skream)
scuba album
round black ghosts comp on ~scape

dubstep allstars six

I haven't heard any of them yet but based on tracklistings my desire to hear them would be as follows:

1) Dubstep Allstars Six
2) Round Black Ghosts
3) Skuba
4) Rinse 02

Man I need to get that Dubstep Allstars mix.

Also, I need an ID for a track that samples the "baby you don't know, what you do to me" vocal part in Aaliyah's One in a Million. I think it may have saxophone in it also.

Groove Chronicles - Stone Cold

From 1997 I think!

Re new dubstep releases, I'm most looking forward to the 2562 album Aerial on Tectonic. "Redux" is kinda disappointing, but "Techno Dread", "Enforcers", "Channel Two" and especially "Kameleon" are all great.

which of these is best:

dubstep allstars six (appleblim)
rinse 02 (skream)
scuba album
round black ghosts comp on ~scape

-- moonship journey to baja

Way more excited about this than any dubstep nonsense (am curious about Appleblim though.)

True dat.

last night's MAH show:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/maryannehobbs/

2562 vs Peverelist

2562 Mix
2562 – 'Space Jungle' (Dubplate)
2562 – 'Moog Dub' (Tectonic)
2562 – 'Walkover' (LP forthcoming on Tectonic)
2562 – 'Channel Two' (Tectonic)
2562 – 'Cobblestone refix' (Dubplate)
2562 – 'Enforcers' (Tectonic)
2562 – 'Hijack' (Dubplate)
2562 – 'Kameleon' (Tectonic)
2562 – 'Belgrave Rd' (Dubplate)
A Made Up Sound – '699' (Subsolo)

Peverelist Mix
2nd II None - 'Waterfalls' (Peverelist remix) (Dubplate)
Pinch & Peverelist - 'Revival' (Dubplate)
RSD 'Jah Way' - (Forthcoming on Punch Drunk)
Gemmy - 'Bass Transmitter' (Dubplate)
Pinch - 'E.Motiv' (Planet Mu)
Peverelist - 'Clunk Click Every Trip' (Dubplate)
Henry & Louis - 'Rise Up' (Pinch Remix) (Forthcoming on 2 Kings)

Hmmmn, I went to all the main record stores in Toronto to look for Dubstep Allstars 6. It was totally sold out at the ones that did carry it.

I don't know whether to be pissed off that I held off to buy it now, for the specific purpose of listening to because I'm going to be away for nearly 2 weeks, likely without access to record stores. Or really glad that in mid 2008 relatively not so hyped dubstep mix cds can still sell out at more than one store at a time. I guess it's both.

don't worry, it's sort of boring

as is/was "round black ghosts" and the scuba album.

It's a shame Appleblim didn't use the best tracks in the area he's profiling - with a few exceptions ("Infinity Is Now" is peerless, and TRG's "Decisions", Martyn's "Suburbia" and Geiom's "Reminiscing" are all ace).

The D.R.E.A.M. mix I posted upthread is a better version of the same thing, I think.

Still, I'd take Appleblim's mix over just about any of the other Dubstep Allstars releases.

On the strength of "Reminiscing", Geiom should switch to diva tracks full time.

It's mildly gratifying to note how for years dubstep defenderz have sought to justify the absolute dearth of tracks like this with lots of carp about meditating on the bass weight, but now that producers have rediscovered the idea of songs/vocals/light&shade, everyone's all over it.

Digging Skepta's 'Rinse 04' which is sounding infinitely more exciting than the prospect of that Appleblim mix.

the best dub-techno-cum-dubstep thing i've heard was that mix posted by ... uh ... gutterbreakz?

also if i had to pick 4 tracks from this appleblim mix i'd pick different tracks from tim ...

Yeah I'd also add in Appleblim's Circling for a highpoint of the dubstep allstars mix - i think the midsection suffers from being pretty direction-less (outside of infinity is now)