Rolling R&B Thread 2007

haha i will go with this

I have the opposite reaction to Timbo. With some notable exceptions, most of his late 90's/early-00s R&B productions that everyone here seems to go ape over are really flat and unappealing to me, (though I guess I find R&B of that time period flat and unappealing in general) even when they're trying very hard to be interesting. But I love his new stuff.

to the point where i just can't get into it, make it mine

i...kind of agree with this, yes. it struck me recently that FS/LS really is a very self-absorbed album - it's not about you, it's not for you to identify with in the same way that 'cry me a river' could have been despite its obvious tabloid subtext, because it's all about justin. it's all about him and his auteur/dork/sexmachine persona. (the xtina album ultimately works/doesn't work along the same lines too, apart from 'ain't no other man'.) i guess that means you have to agree with him, and buy into it, to be able to get into it, and for me it succeeds because he convinces me of it. nevertheless "DO YOU EVER THINK ABOUT ANYTHING BUT YOURSELF?" rings ever more true.

(i seem to be holding justin more responsible for this than tim! but it is in the production as well. hmm. maybe this is just danjahands' actual style.)

we all sold a really great, real artist in exchange for some magic timbabeans

i think the real furtado is there, still, and even better than before, in 'say it right' and the coldplay ballad, and the awesomely bouncy 80s-madge tune which timba ripped off from that finnish dude.

also there's'unfaithful's forgotten ne-yo cousin - 'gallery' by mario vasquez! "you're just another priceless work of art / in his galleryyyyyyyyyyyyyy"!

hear 'so sick' - fall in luv with this timid sensitive soul

hear the album & 'sexy love' & then 'unfaithful' & 'gallery'- hey u tricked me, ur just telling me what i wanna hear u ugly sex troll!!

hear the album some more - fuck tho u are the supreme world expert at it tho u genius bastard

see leaked phone pics he took of him getting blown by a backing dancer - OH MAN WHAT IS IT WITH YOU AND MIRRORS!!! clearly you love love more than ur lover

hear 'irreplaceable' - omg u r tortured casanova reincarnate

currently i believe him to be the best thing since sliced teedra. oh yeah erm i might also have softened to 'unfaithful' a bit after hearing peedi crakk sing along to it on his mixtape :$

"Gallery" is really, really generic...

agree, tho i always wished those drums were 10x louder somehow! but the best rihanna tune outside of singles will always be 'here i go again'.

anyways, 2007: no one's feeling 'heartbreak'??? ;_;

http://www.myspace.com/treysongz

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I'm going to stop arguing though cuz i feel like tsk's opinions are more interesting than mine even if they are objectively wrong. :-p

trey wz just ripping off rnb songs tho i think, i wouldnt have minded rap beats.... i thought kev samples wz gonna be good for a laugh (4. T-Pain Is Dead Skit) but he just turned out to be a dick in the end (4. T-Pain Is Dead Skit)

fwiw i agree about the odd masterving on 'deja vu' but it doesn't bother me so much. 'deja vu' is fantastic but pales somewhat next to 'ring the alarm'.

UR HOLDING UP TRAFFIC GREEN MEANS GOOOOOOO

It's what the new Amerie song should've sounded like.

Conversely, "Irreplaceable" gets a big boost by coming on immediately afterwards.

I did hear an amazing gay house remix of "Ring The Alarm" while out last night. It was followed though by a gay house remix of Snow Patrol's "Chasing Cars" :-(

Re the R&B mixtape thing. Teedra of course did it best. Her freestyle over Lloyd Banks' "On Fire"!!!

Yeah, love "Check On It" as well.

did hear an amazing gay house remix of "Ring The Alarm" while out last night.

DId you hear the house remix of "Listen"? It's also very awesome.

Congratulations, you answered your own question!

I didn't like the singles from Trey Songz' first album, but "Wonder Woman" is pretty damn great.

'heartbreak' is AMAZING, it's so disco-infused! this is reminding me of cherrelle! everything in the richcraft vein has been very taut and teetering-on-tightrope-even-as-you-lose-control poised (which is why it works best on songs about that moment just before you fall in love), but 'heartbreak' is totally uninhibited about abandoning itself to those yummy disco strings. it's fully committed to...what exactly? i must listen to these lyrics more closely, is she full of determination and spirit to save herself from a bad relationship by...getting him back?

another natasha song, 'so sick', with clipse: minimal beat, cooing ghostly verses, i like.

and monica is fucking awesome in this video. love the song, i will never tire of generic crunk'n'b, especially not when it sounds like a hollabackesque marching band.

gr8 sleeve tho

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