Neutral Milk Hotel: Classic or Dud?

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This should a "Defend the Indefensible." Utterly indefensible shit.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Monday, 19 September 2005 21:27 (twenty years ago)

NMH > The Beatles

cdwill, Monday, 19 September 2005 21:30 (twenty years ago)

Total classic.
Took me a couple of listens to really get into, but once I heard it uninterrupted on headphones I had a small epiphany. Incredibly powerful, strange and beautiful. And the bagpipe solo is most triumphant.

Stew (stew s), Monday, 19 September 2005 21:34 (twenty years ago)

I once said on some internet message board that Two-Headed Boy would make me start to tear up often, and someone told me I was not cool.

That said board was called "I Love Music".

PappaWheelie B.C., Monday, 19 September 2005 21:43 (twenty years ago)

I like Neutral Milk Hotel.

I was all broken hearted about this girl in college and Two-Headed Boy was my mope song of choice.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 19 September 2005 21:49 (twenty years ago)

I'm Just a Mop(e)s.

The Mops, Monday, 19 September 2005 21:52 (twenty years ago)

Aeroplane : one-off, how-the-hell-did-he-do-that classic

(Btw, Jittery Joe's is a CD-R, I seem to recall. Not that there's anything wrong with that.)

M. V. (M.V.), Monday, 19 September 2005 22:06 (twenty years ago)

I finally heard In the Aeroplane Over the Sea for the first time a couple of years ago and I have a tape of it that I've listened to a few times. I think there are a couple of songs that are fairly well written, but there are a lot of songs that really aren't. And I find the record very maudlin.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 19 September 2005 22:10 (twenty years ago)

I like Holland, 1945 and a few other songs on their second album. Otherwise it sounds like Oasis singing folk standards.

Cunga (Cunga), Monday, 19 September 2005 22:12 (twenty years ago)

Listening to NMH is akin to rubbing one's fingernails on a chalkboard. Of course I guess some may like that sound.

Jim Reckling (Jim Reckling), Monday, 19 September 2005 22:20 (twenty years ago)

C L A S S I C

jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Monday, 19 September 2005 22:38 (twenty years ago)

Listening to NMH is akin to rubbing one's fingernails on a chalkboard. Of course I guess some may like that sound.

It's almost as if we were totally unaware that we have a noize board here at ILX.

PappaWheelie B.C., Monday, 19 September 2005 23:01 (twenty years ago)

Neutral Milk Wolf Hotel

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 19 September 2005 23:06 (twenty years ago)

I mean, he's written some good songs and all, but come on people. Let's not fucking cannonize the guy. It's not like he's Diplo, or Digweed.

The King of Flop Threads, Monday, 19 September 2005 23:26 (twenty years ago)

it's not like he's that one mc on that run the road 2 comp

gear (gear), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 00:25 (twenty years ago)

classic. im loving olivia tremor control at the moment, too. not sold on apples in stereo, however.

chris andrews (fraew), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 00:52 (twenty years ago)

Jittery Joe's is an official release, not a CD-R.

alan z, Tuesday, 20 September 2005 01:17 (twenty years ago)

not sold on apples in stereo, however.

You shouldn't be.

The funny thing about the lyrics for "Two-Headed Boy" is how they might as well be a Smashing Pumpkins song from around 1997 or so.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 01:24 (twenty years ago)

actually, a big epic Smashing Pumpkins cover of Two Headed Boy would be the bee's knees! I can hear it in my head....

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 01:36 (twenty years ago)

Jittery Joe's is an official release, not a CD-R.

I believe it's an officially released CD-R. Look at the color of its playable side.

M. V. (M.V.), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 02:06 (twenty years ago)

Search (or download or whatever): Jeff Magnum @ Aquarius Records in SF, 1995 or 1996-ish

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 03:02 (twenty years ago)

Apples in Stereo's EP collection Science Faire is almost as good as the first OTC and NMH albums. I could see someone hearing other things they've done instead and not regarding AiS as comparable to the other two, though. But back in the olden days of 96-97, the three bands really did seem of a piece.

Oh and Neutral Milk Hotel is totally classic. On Avery Island is one of the best albums of manic folk sincerity genius there is.

Louis Kahn, Tuesday, 20 September 2005 03:48 (twenty years ago)

really lousy

jermaine (jnoble), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 09:11 (twenty years ago)

The funny thing about the lyrics for "Two-Headed Boy" is how they might as well be a Smashing Pumpkins song from around 1997 or so.

-- Ned Raggett
From you Ned I'm guessing this is a compliment! There is a "Disarm" vibe to that guitar strum, also.

Mark (MarkR), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 11:54 (twenty years ago)

i like the mountain goats version of two headed boy more. it's more spine tingly.

AaronK (AaronK), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 12:07 (twenty years ago)

From you Ned I'm guessing this is a compliment!

It's an observation.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 13:18 (twenty years ago)

In The Aeroplane Over the Sea was my favorite album for like all of high school.

Ian John50n (orion), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 15:47 (twenty years ago)

i ithink i really hate jeff mangum. and i hate that some grieving dude got some shame for crossing the line with this dork. but aeroplane is a pretty good album.

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:41 (twenty years ago)

something tells me that NMH would still be cool if he'd stopped after On Avery Island (which is sooooo much better than Aeroplane)

Aaron A, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 21:08 (twenty years ago)

two years pass...

NMH > The Beatles

-- cdwill, Monday, 19 September 2005 21:30 (2 years ago) Link

three handclaps, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 22:32 (eighteen years ago)

mm

Surmounter, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 22:33 (eighteen years ago)

xpost, does it matter?

I know, right?, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 22:53 (eighteen years ago)

i mean, really?

I know, right?, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 22:53 (eighteen years ago)

"something tells me that NMH would still be cool if he'd stopped after On Avery Island (which is sooooo much better than Aeroplane)"

"it sounds like Oasis singing folk standards."

psssshhh and pfffft respectively.

circa1916, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 23:01 (eighteen years ago)

"can't believe how strange it is to be anything at all" -- it doesn't get much headier than that.

McFiend, Thursday, 29 November 2007 13:19 (eighteen years ago)

I mean, he's written some good songs and all, but come on people. Let's not fucking cannonize the guy. It's not like he's Diplo, or Digweed.

-- The King of Flop Threads, Monday, 19 September 2005 23:26 (2 years ago) Link

Alex in Baltimore, Thursday, 29 November 2007 13:55 (eighteen years ago)

wow, this thread has a lot of interesting inputs throughout it

well its just got to be classic. right?
'in an aeroplane...' = totally enthralling. the vocal melody at the two minute mark of the title track gets me every time - strangely melancholic, lyrically obtuse, entirely captivating.
also, he has a hypnotic way of raising his voice to elevate the tension of the music that gives the sparser moments a density and immediacy that you don't come across too often in music. this record holds you and doesn't let you go. perfect fodder, in album format, for the thoughtful person.

i'm pretty happy for him to be canonised. if only because special music is deserving of special attention. and this guy's forever gonna be relegated to the 'acquired taste' basket regardless.

Charlie Howard, Thursday, 29 November 2007 14:15 (eighteen years ago)

On Avery Island > Aeroplane

and that said, NMH is classic, but minor not major classic, if i might make the distinction.

stephen, Friday, 30 November 2007 00:04 (eighteen years ago)

whose reunion tour/album will be bigger - MBV or NMH

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 30 November 2007 00:23 (eighteen years ago)

album: nmh
tour: mbv

wanko ergo sum, Friday, 30 November 2007 00:25 (eighteen years ago)

two months pass...

Yesterday was the 10-year anniversary of Aeroplane. Happy belated NMH day!

St3ve Go1db3rg, Monday, 11 February 2008 18:16 (eighteen years ago)

I fear I'll never like them as much as I did when I was 15. I don't know if this is a good or bad thing.

mehlt, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 01:51 (eighteen years ago)

I can't believe people's ears or sanities have survived 10 years of Aeroplane's existence.

Curt1s Stephens, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 02:09 (eighteen years ago)

My feelings haven't changed re: the album, btw.

Curt1s Stephens, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 02:09 (eighteen years ago)

i agree with curt1s. also i don't like mangum's voice.

electricsound, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 02:14 (eighteen years ago)

http://rapspace.tv/files/images/HATERS.preview.jpg

strgn, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 06:09 (eighteen years ago)

i find it hard to believe that nmh featuring in a top 100 was even a surprise back in 2001

Charlie Howard, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 06:39 (eighteen years ago)

NMH's existence obviates the need for a top 100

OR

Jeff Mangum took a time machine back to 2001 and put it on the list

St3ve Go1db3rg, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 06:42 (eighteen years ago)

I still stand by my comments as well.

Cunga, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 07:52 (eighteen years ago)

Like a movie like The Holy Mountain, or Anne Carson's poetry, or any other work so personal and flawless one can only ever really look in on it and wonder, In the Aeroplane Over the Sea has the rare distinction of existing only technically inside commerce, criticism and opinion. You can of course have an opinion about it, but it would be really hard to even approach the intentions that made it, let alone the constantly unraveling impact it has had and continues to have a decade later. I came to understand with the thousands of other people who have been changed by this music, that you could argue to finer points, but the core of what the record meant was perfect, pure and silently understood.

St3ve Go1db3rg, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 17:49 (eighteen years ago)


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