― Scott Seward, Wednesday, 12 February 2003 00:15 (twenty-one years ago) link
Which is also why all this Dave Matthews hatred from Americans is so delightfully bizarre and hilarious for the rest of us. It's like you guys just decided to pick the most average guy on Earth to focus all your hatred on (kinda like that Gary Larson strip with the guy looking out of his window and seeing a gigantic crowd advancing towards him with signs featuring suitably vague accusations)
― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 00:20 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 01:01 (twenty-one years ago) link
― jack cole (jackcole), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 01:21 (twenty-one years ago) link
Personally, in my most unbiased terms, I dislike DMB because I find the music totally uninspired. I come to loathe them because of the godawful portentousness with which they portray themselves, and with which DMB's most rabid fans have adopted his music as the soundtrack to a generation. Everyone wants meaning and depth in our paltry little lives, but jeez, can't you find something with a little quality to represent that?
― philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 01:30 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 01:35 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 03:34 (twenty-one years ago) link
― artiste, Wednesday, 12 February 2003 04:20 (twenty-one years ago) link
I just call the whole genre "fratboy easy-listening."
― j.lu (j.lu), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 04:38 (twenty-one years ago) link
Because they are the American Coldplay. And as I mentioned on some other thread, because Dave Matthews sings like Adam Sandler!!
― original bgm, Wednesday, 12 February 2003 05:01 (twenty-one years ago) link
This is the greatest post ever.
― Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 05:21 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dan I., Wednesday, 12 February 2003 06:29 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tad (llamasfur), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 07:31 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tad (llamasfur), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 07:32 (twenty-one years ago) link
a. dave matthewsb. creedc. pearl jamd. sigur rose. any nu-metal band*, take yer pick (*Deftones and Tool excepted)
then a- (dave matthews) will always be the correct choice. though that's not saying much.
― Tad (llamasfur), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 07:50 (twenty-one years ago) link
1- pearl jam2- sigur ros3 - any nu-metal band (maybe switch 2 and 3)4 - dave matthews5 - creed
― James Blount (James Blount), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 07:53 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 13:49 (twenty-one years ago) link
"Dave Matthews Speaks Out About the WarI hope this letter finds you all well and that in these uncertain times you find moments to be joyful.
I want to speak my mind about this war with Iraq, or I will choke on my conscience.
What is the motivation? Regime change? Shouldn't that be up to the people of the region and the people of Iraq? The only real threat from Saddam Hussein is to his neighbors and none of them support a U.S. invasion. Is it to stabilize the Middle-East? Wouldn't it only do the opposite by causing further death and suffering in a country that has had more than its share?
Is it to weaken Al Qaeda? Saddam Hussein is a genocidal maniac but he is not Al Qaeda. He is certainly more visible though. Is he our target because he is easier to identify than the illusive terrorist network? Surely it is more likely that an attack on Iraq would only strengthen Al Qaeda by feeding Anti-American sentiment. Putting out the fire with gasoline, so to speak. It is certainly not to liberate the people of Iraq who suffer under Hussein's rule, unless we call killing hundreds of thousands of Iraqis liberation.
Saddam Hussein is a barbaric murderous dictator. I wish the world were free of him. But the answer is not to bomb this great culture of Iraq out of existence to stop him. Why must the children of Iraq die by the thousands to stop a tyrant? It is not justice. And if we kill him what will we achieve? We will have taken the most unpopular leader in the Middle East and turned him into the greatest martyr radical Islam has ever had. The U.N. weapons inspectors must be allowed to do their job thoroughly and any military action should be internationally agreed upon. We must not allow our government to turn us into a rogue nation.
I fear that our true motivation is about oil and our own flailing economy; about the failure to destroy Al Qaeda and about revenge. It is criminal to put our servicemen and women in harm's way and to put the lives of so many civilians on the line for the misguided frustrations of the Bush administration.
Bottom line: this war is wrong and this war is un-American.
Peacefully submitted,Dave Matthews"
― Tony benn, Wednesday, 12 February 2003 14:14 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 14:31 (twenty-one years ago) link
― gareth (gareth), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 14:39 (twenty-one years ago) link
― j breitling (BlastsofStatic), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 15:07 (twenty-one years ago) link
ps. Who is worse? Dave Matthews Band, Hootie, Shania Twain, Meredith Brooks, Travis,Ocean Colour Scene,Stereophonics, Alannis etc?
― Julie Cosgrove, Wednesday, 12 February 2003 15:08 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 15:26 (twenty-one years ago) link
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 15:28 (twenty-one years ago) link
But....at the end of the day, DMB's music still bores me to absolute tears.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 15:30 (twenty-one years ago) link
Dave's voice is something only Alanis' mother could love.
― don weiner, Wednesday, 12 February 2003 15:49 (twenty-one years ago) link
NOOOOOOOO, Anthony! ARGH! Don't say it! I'm melting, melting!
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 16:26 (twenty-one years ago) link
Come to think of it, it does. Travis and the Stereophonics both have at least one song I really like, and they're really not that different from the DMB...
― My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 16:32 (twenty-one years ago) link
I understand the hatred perfectly, its the same reason we hate DMB.
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 16:47 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 17:14 (twenty-one years ago) link
I know CanCon requirements explain a lot, but how can you not have heard them from car radios or commercials or other involuntary exposure?
― j.lu (j.lu), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 17:51 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 18:17 (twenty-one years ago) link
― kevin brady (groeuvre), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 19:13 (twenty-one years ago) link
I feel my opinion of his music is fairly sincere because I was literally unaware of who he was or what he looked like. I had heard his name in relation to Phish, so I assumed his music probably wasn't even on the radio.
His music always felt icky, like bad generic white guy music from the late 80s somehow mixed with Seal to make for an uncomfortable, displaced feeling of nostalgia and slow-motion blah.
― Scaredy Cat, Wednesday, 12 February 2003 19:17 (twenty-one years ago) link
The verses of "The Space Between Us" (the chorus sucks ass)The "I am no Superman" songThe "drink too much" song
Everything else is completely worthless and unnecessary.
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 19:46 (twenty-one years ago) link
I can't stand it when people say they don't like them because "crash into me talks about looking up girls skirts" when in reality it was put there because Dave improved it once and everyone laughed and it just kind of stuck, what's the big deal? It's nothing compared to any rap, rock, or hip hop group out there.
Dave matthews has an awesome voice, it's different, it's for people who like different things every now and then, don't you people ever get tired of all the singers that sound like either Britney Spears or Scott Stapp? Nobody sounds like Dave, that's why so many people love him.
Dave Matthews Band started out about 13 years, jamming in a bar. They grew so fast because of their awesome live shows and word-of-mouth. Dave is now obviously a millionaire, but he always states how much they owes every bit of their success to their fans. They release an album, whether it be live or a studio recording, every year, for their fans, they tour everywhere all the time for their fans, Dave dances, and the band's still together for their fans.
The DMB is the best band on earth right now, they're very, very talented, and they love their work and their fans. How could you deny the greatness of such a group of people?
― naga_pampa, Wednesday, 12 February 2003 19:50 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 19:52 (twenty-one years ago) link
I'm a professional singer and I think that DMB doesn't just the big hairy nutsack, they chew and gnaw at it until it tears, causing the testes to spill out in a heaping pile of epididymis and seminal vesicles.
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 19:55 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 19:56 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 19:57 (twenty-one years ago) link
― hstencil, Wednesday, 12 February 2003 19:57 (twenty-one years ago) link
― naga_pampa, Wednesday, 12 February 2003 19:57 (twenty-one years ago) link
― kevin brady (groeuvre), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 19:59 (twenty-one years ago) link
jesus christ, what are you, their publicist? You sound positively zealous in your DMB fundamentalism. Here's a suggestion -- sweeping superlatives and purple prose will *NEVER* convince anyone of anything nor *EVER* win you an argument.
"Nobody sounds like Dave"
Hmm...well, John Mayer certainly does....and he's boring as fuck too!
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 20:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 20:01 (twenty-one years ago) link
― naga_pampa, Wednesday, 12 February 2003 20:02 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 20:03 (twenty-one years ago) link
― naga_pampa, Wednesday, 12 February 2003 20:05 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 20:06 (twenty-one years ago) link