Post a controversial music opinion

"Monster Sacre" is such a pretty and forlorn song though! Also interesting rework of an Erik Satie piece.

This is the thread for controversial music opinions. This is the thread for all this Stereolab talk: "Their early stuff was better"

Dots & Loops is best Stereolab LP, Margarine Eclipse is #2, there's your controversy?

ETK is ruined by Cybele's Reverie, a great single which does not fit on there at all.

Fine here’s a controp

Tierra Whack made the best debut of all time and she’s going to be the most omnipresent thing for the rest of our lives

i think u mean

Tierra Whack made the best debut of all ti

Lol

Between her and leikeli47 I’m happy that Missy is being felt if not justly beafied

Um *beatified

here's a proposition: there's virtually no instrumental rock or pop music that wouldn't be improved by some sort of vocal

Nice try.

there's virtually no instrumental rock or pop music that wouldn't be improved by some sort of vocal
― imago
Easily falsified by thousands of techno, trance and house club hits, subsequently rereleased with added vocals to score a chart hit.

Also, Rush.

those aren't rock or pop imo xp

give me a break, oscillate wildly is just about the only smiths song i can bear now

but yeah, could you imagine albatross with vocals? or popcorn or nut rocker or green onions or telstar

i can imagine albatross with vocals, yes

they go as follows: "this is no ordinary chocolate trifle..."

:D

but yeah, could you imagine albatross with vocals?

― kolarov spring (NickB)

i think it goes "here comes the sun king"

re: telstar with vocals:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtubEdQUJZ0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lncJJ27mXLo

lol

omg

oddly entrancing

once the initial laughter has subsided, yes

'Albatross' by Fleetwood Mac sung by a pair of horny albatrosses

LJ that's as bad a controp as I've seen but I perversely want to hear someone try YYZ with vocals

I mean, "rock and pop" are predominantly vocal musics and a lot of the best instrumental examples are pushing the definitional categories (you could e.g. argue that Mahavishnu Orchestra and GYBE, or even "YYZ", are something other than pop or rock). NickB's counterexamples seem strongest. I don't want vocals on Dick Dale. 2xp!

The Chantays - was trying to remember who did "Pipeline"

what about the theme from Star Wars?

Do big band era hits count as pop?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OhkhBwrK_w

the Ventures rule

The Shadows' hits dried up when they started singing.

this was more a test-the-waters than an actual cast-iron opinion, but I have seen far too many support bands that could really have done with, yknow, a singer

Tim Booth (lead singer of James) regularly cites Patti Smith as his biggest influence, and despite James not really having the same truck as Patti in the critical world I immensely prefer Tim both as a writer and singer

I think I feel the same away about almost anybody she is said to have influenced. Much respect but those records, eh

think not liking Patti Smith is more a "controversial opinion" than a controversial opinion these days

I unabashedly still love her first three albums, and plenty of what came later, which seems more controversial these days.

Oh don’t get me wrong I do love Patti Smith

Kraftwerk, Roxy Music and David Bowie are considered to be the holy trinity of influences on synthpop/new romantic etc. but personally I think Pink Floyd (Meddle to Animals) should also be in there.

Not saying no one was familiar with PF, but if you asked say Daniel Miller or Robert Rental who they were listening to, I think they'd claim their influences were Wendy Carlos, Tomita, Jean Michel Jarre, Vangelis, Can and Faust on the instrumental side.

Daniel Miller was a fan of early rock'n'roll (hence the Silicon Teens), The Beach Boys and The Kinks. Also Can, and yes, Pink Floyd.

John Foxx? Pink Floyd fan - even covered 'Have a Cigar' ... Andy McCluskey also a Pink Floyd fan, confessing as much on OMD's forum a few years back. Alan Wilder of Depeche Mode chose Meddle as one of his favourite LP's in a Quietus article. Phil Oakey said Floyd were his "model of what a band should be" in a 2003 interview...

David Gilmour is on Duran Duran side project Arcadia's LP, and I'm fairly certain he didn't end up on there by accident.

no, he ended up there because money

Vince Clarke chose The Dark Side of the Moon as one of his favourite LP's for the Quietus, too.

I’m certain that the “Live at the Milk Bar toilets” aspect of “There’s More To Life Than This” is faked. It aurally makes no sense, there is clearly doubles vocals on the choruses, and you can hear identical crowd sounds repeating as if the background noise were on loop

*doubled, *was

I don't know that that is controversial.

but my entire experience is listening to it and reading the credits then listening closely 26 years ago, perhaps Bjork stans have been vigorously debating it on messageboards ever since?

(the overall effect is faked, but iirc I concluded that the lead vocal could well have been recorded in the toilets during the day, or faked in studio based on a fun experience Bjork had one night, and it was a fun tiny mystery easter egg on purpose)

it's a subtle commentary that there's more to life than figuring out if this track was recorded live

I always assumed she documented some conversations at the Milk Bar and then recorded her song in the studio using them as background

it's a nice track whatever it is

xp lollll

Yeah it is an aural curiosity... the background vocals and guitar sound very much like they were recorded live.

I'm certain that the "Björk makes good music" aspect of her career is faked