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Aye, with a passing familiarity for conga.

― struttin' with some barbecue (jimnaseum), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 02:57 (nineteen years ago)

maybe senor coconut can stop by for backgammon...

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 03:22 (nineteen years ago)

Dude I wish. The awkward techno-lunch could go nuclear.

― struttin' with some barbecue (jimnaseum), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 03:26 (nineteen years ago)

Sinner in me is being released on Mute and was promo'ed two weeks ago. Rumour is Ricardo got his remix in late, Depeche Mode weren't so sure about the remix, but it's been really popular so its getting an airing. The track has been played since love parade and was dropped everywhere in Ibiza.

― rchinn (rchinn), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

Sinner in me is sehr gut. I've got a reasonable quality fifteen minute version off of slsk which cuts out abruptly just after seemingly starting to segue into a bit-crushed section, which has me intrigued. Surely it can't go on for much longer?

― struttin' with some barbecue (jimnaseum), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 19:11 (nineteen years ago)

Ricardo's been playing it since February (at the latest.) was in all his Fabric sets so far this year. I reckon it's about 14 minutes long, but obviously he has the capacity to extend it as long as he feels like since its structure is so repetitive and he's playing a digital copy of it.

glad to hear it's getting a release

― a (rslvd), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

I think Ricardo and Senor Coconut might prefer Badminton.

― trees (treesessplode), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

so, the promos of 'fizheuer zieheuer' have dropped and it's totally insane - i can't stop laughing whilst listening to it. it definitely lives up to the hype. a parping, dubbed out, industrial klanking balkan freak out. i've no idea how long it is but i felt it could have gone on a wee bit longer. :)

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Friday, 6 October 2006 13:45 (nineteen years ago)

i can totally imagine at the right time and in the right place completely losing my my mind to this on the dancefloor.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Friday, 6 October 2006 13:59 (nineteen years ago)

yes, completely. best ever.

― a (rslvd), Friday, 6 October 2006 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

For the last few weeks I was hoping for this whenever this thread reappears. :) Nice title too. So when is it out for real?

― Omar (Omar), Friday, 6 October 2006 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks for the rip, Tracey/Euai!

here's villalobos and hawtin at mutek. hawtin on beats, ricardo on that crazy air raid horn:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJ-ucnW41yM

oh lordee when will he play in san francisco?

― yours fondly, harshaw. (mrgn), Friday, 6 October 2006 19:15 (nineteen years ago)

haha. so many drugs.

― jed_ (jed), Friday, 6 October 2006 19:27 (nineteen years ago)

he'll never play in San Fran. boycotts America, no?

― a (rslvd), Saturday, 7 October 2006 08:11 (nineteen years ago)

hiya, here's a better quality rip of that, not sure what was wrong before -

http://www.sendspace.com/file/8a678z

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Saturday, 7 October 2006 18:00 (nineteen years ago)

thanks doubly!

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Saturday, 7 October 2006 18:39 (nineteen years ago)

he'll never play in San Fran. boycotts America, no?

sometimes words hurt more than fists.

― yours fondly, harshaw. (mrgn), Saturday, 7 October 2006 21:29 (nineteen years ago)

haha i have just realized that the turntable i'm using is like +1, even when it's on normal. i THOUGHT i'd heard things being a little too speedy, but now that i compare the orig. que belle epoque with the re-do, it's obvious. oh well.

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Saturday, 7 October 2006 23:01 (nineteen years ago)

third time's the charm

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Saturday, 7 October 2006 23:10 (nineteen years ago)

it's close enough!

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Saturday, 7 October 2006 23:35 (nineteen years ago)

i actually listen to the 2006 mix a little fast so it's no big deal

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Sunday, 8 October 2006 04:18 (nineteen years ago)

So when is it out for real?

i'm not sure but playhouse usually get the finished copies out fairly soon after they promo them. i'd guess within 3 or 4 weeks.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Sunday, 8 October 2006 19:08 (nineteen years ago)

that a vinyl promo? if so, 1x12" or 2x? sorry for the dull qs...

― a (rslvd), Sunday, 8 October 2006 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

it's a single 12".

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Sunday, 8 October 2006 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

thanks for reposting, tracer

― jelky (jergins), Sunday, 8 October 2006 19:40 (nineteen years ago)

i have been getting really picky about record speeds recently. other night i had an 'argument' with bro when drunk about whether something sounding better at 37 or 40 RPM. felt really stupid afterwards.

but yeah, i listen to the 2006 mix a bit speedy, too. weird.

― trees (treesessplode), Sunday, 8 October 2006 22:52 (nineteen years ago)

shit's too slow!

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Sunday, 8 October 2006 23:51 (nineteen years ago)

what's the password to his website?

― Shlomo Shemesh (Shlomo Shemesh), Monday, 9 October 2006 00:30 (nineteen years ago)

I have the recent album on that dodgy MP3 rip. I'm not sure I understand this kind of music - I've complained about minimal in the past and everyone cites things like "Washing Up" as being good (but I don't hear that as minimal). I'm not sure how this is different from what Autechre were doing in 1993 but without the interesting time structures etc. Am I missing something major? It sounds pretty boring to me...

― wogan lenin (dog latin), Monday, 9 October 2006 11:10 (nineteen years ago)

Alcachofa is probably the best entry point really.

― eh (fandango), Monday, 9 October 2006 11:31 (nineteen years ago)

i quite liked easy lee.

― wogan lenin (dog latin), Monday, 9 October 2006 11:35 (nineteen years ago)

Seriously, get a handle on Alcachofa first, it's the most instant and muscular and approachable of his stuff.

I didn't actually like Easy Lee at first! Could understand a boring/nonplussed reaction to it (and other tracks of his). It was the first thing I heard of him, but it was some other track which hooked me enough to check him out properly. Glad I did.

Then go listen to Bytes ;-)

I'm excited that this new one sounds like it's going to be very difficult for anyone to slot it only in this goddamn "minimal" box.

― eh (fandango), Monday, 9 October 2006 11:50 (nineteen years ago)

DL - "Achso" does sound alot like autechre, i agree. but "interesting time structures" were what eventually killed any interest i had in that band.

― jed_ (jed), Monday, 9 October 2006 12:08 (nineteen years ago)

but anyway, if you don't like RV, then just listen to someone else!

― jed_ (jed), Monday, 9 October 2006 12:08 (nineteen years ago)

Luciano? ;-)

― eh (fandango), Monday, 9 October 2006 12:14 (nineteen years ago)

or just keep listening to autechre. it's not like we'll stop you, but at least i will not be joining you.

― trees (treesessplode), Monday, 9 October 2006 14:23 (nineteen years ago)

'interesting' more like abstruse and boring amirite

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Monday, 9 October 2006 14:32 (nineteen years ago)

all i was saying was i don't quite "get" this album quite. i've only listened to it a couple of times but it's very very plip plop for like ages and ages. it's not that much like autechre.

― wogan lenin (dog latin), Monday, 9 October 2006 15:41 (nineteen years ago)

if you love teh plip plops, search pheek

― Jena (JenaP), Monday, 9 October 2006 15:42 (nineteen years ago)

you really have to like the rhythm of a dripping faucet if you're going to enjoy achso i think

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Monday, 9 October 2006 15:53 (nineteen years ago)

"'but anyway, if you don't like RV, then just listen to someone else! "

I read this as "just listen to Someone Else!", which also made perfect sense.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 9 October 2006 22:50 (nineteen years ago)

i mean, yes. but a dripping faucet with some fucking bombs in it, right?

autechre bite it.

― trees (treesessplode), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 00:55 (nineteen years ago)

I like "Techno"
I like "Minimal"
I like "IDM"

― eh (fandango), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 01:18 (nineteen years ago)

what about "electronica"?

― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 01:23 (nineteen years ago)

there's a lot more problems w/ autechre than this thread has gotten into so far

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 01:24 (nineteen years ago)

we like the plip-plop
we love the German sound (kannst du graben?)

― Telephonething (Telephonething), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 02:36 (nineteen years ago)

er, xpost

― Telephonething (Telephonething), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 02:36 (nineteen years ago)

do tell hunta-v.

IMO comparing villalobos to autechre is lazy. (love 'em both BTW)

― josh. (disco stu), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 03:50 (nineteen years ago)

I know I'm joining this conversation at a very late stage of the game, but I think there's been a fundamental misunderstanding here of the term avant-garde. As I understand it, avant-garde implies...

1) Oppositional stance towards bourgeois society
2) Embrace of extremity
3) Hyperbolic, over-the-top agony of the romantic artist

I'd say most undie rap makes a nod towards the first, Def Jux has a good lock on the second and El-P pretty much owns the third part of the definition.

Talking about the positive aspects of the avant-garde is a red herring, since the avant-garde has defined itself negatively from the French revolution all the way to Albert Ayler.

Maybe music critics are confused and are using "avant-garde" and "innovative" interchangably. Not smart, since the notions of the "avant-garde" is rooted in 19C romanticism. No, I don't think CoFlow are particularly "innovative", but they're definitely "avant-garde" as far as the historical definition goes.

-- vahid (vfoz...), September 27th, 2002 3:06 AM. (vahid)

the negative definition ensures that the avant garde in the above definition is aesthetically parasitic on the things it intends to negate => result: its proponents and supporters fear the power of art

the idea that the "avant-garde" is somehow seamlessly in existence from the French Revolution to Albert Ayler = a second way in which it institutionally cuts its own throat, since it means that arguments between difft generations of the a-g have to be placed on one side, as not germane to the essence of the a-g, which effectively strips out the material logic of the works in question

1 2 and 3 are all perfectly good descriptions of the majority of non-undie hiphop

-- mark s (mar...), September 27th, 2002 3:24 AM. (mark s)

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 03:56 (nineteen years ago)

yes, but how do they describe the undie ad upthread? ;-)

― josh. (disco stu), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 04:02 (nineteen years ago)

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