No because the best version of Outdoor Miner is over 2 minutes
― imago, Tuesday, 12 February 2019 19:18 (five years ago) link
"Velocity Girl" and "What You do to Me" spring to mind
― bhad bundy (Simon H.), Tuesday, 12 February 2019 19:21 (five years ago) link
pay to cum, minor threat, some other hardcore song
― sun-kil moonsician (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 12 February 2019 19:22 (five years ago) link
anyway, i am very down
Some great rock n' roll classics come in under two minutes: Great Balls of Fire, All Shook Up, Surrender, Hit the Road Jack, Rave On, Yakety Yak, I Wanna Be Your Man, He's So Fine.... This will be a hell of difficult ballad to decide.
― Dan Worsley, Tuesday, 12 February 2019 19:26 (five years ago) link
Big question, two minutes or under two minutes? And Your Bird Can Sing is 2'00 according to spotify.
― Dan Worsley, Tuesday, 12 February 2019 19:28 (five years ago) link
Some other great ones that are exactly two minutes:
"Jamboree," Beat Happening"Satin Slipper," Blades of Grass"Your Love Keeps Me Going," Denise Scott & the Soundsmen"Aerosol Burns," Essential Logic"Pregnant Again," Knight School"Look of Love," Lesley Gore"Never Let Me Go," Monique"Tighter," Paul Revere & the Raiders"The Queen of Eyes," Soft Boys
So yes, big question.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 12 February 2019 19:39 (five years ago) link
i guess it will be to the discretion of the pollrunner if those songs are smol enough
― sun-kil moonsician (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 12 February 2019 19:45 (five years ago) link
is electronica included?
― Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 12 February 2019 20:08 (five years ago) link
I still think On a Good Day is potentially my favorite track from Have One On Me.Titans from Dawn Richard is 2:07. I'd like to be able to vote for such a wonderful track.Could we consider going up to 2:30 ? Or does that open things up way too much because of certain genres (but who truly cares about punk right).Or wait, even better idea, do two categories: one for lightning-quick songs up to 1:30 (for all Wire fans etc), and a second for 1:30-2:30 that are more like errr actual songs.I don't really care, 2 minutes is fine, I have On a Good Day.
― Nabozo, Tuesday, 12 February 2019 20:11 (five years ago) link
Outro With Bees by Neko Case is a perfect miniature. Great Cop.
― Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Tuesday, 12 February 2019 20:11 (five years ago) link
if anything i'd be in favor of going in the other direction: a 90 seconds poll would eliminate a lot of 1:59 stuff that i think is less interesting than the "miniatures". i don't want to poll a bunch of chuck berry and early rock N roll
i'm thinking stuff like "her majesty" or "naked, if i want to" or "field day for the sundays" or "till the morning comes"
in other words, two minutes is TOO LONG
― budo jeru, Tuesday, 12 February 2019 20:20 (five years ago) link
tbh 2:00 is too long; 2:30 would be just 'vote for your favorite short-ish song'
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 12 February 2019 20:22 (five years ago) link
1:45 seems like a decent compromise
― sun-kil moonsician (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 12 February 2019 20:24 (five years ago) link
the epics poll was 10 mins+, though, so the spiritual companion would mean a poll of songs 1 minute or less
― sun-kil moonsician (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 12 February 2019 20:25 (five years ago) link
100% down for 1 minute or less
― budo jeru, Tuesday, 12 February 2019 20:26 (five years ago) link
Looking forward to arguments about the true lenght of Here She Comes Now.
Let's do it!!
― kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 12 February 2019 20:27 (five years ago) link
bold move but i'm gonna call "pnoom" by can the winner
― budo jeru, Tuesday, 12 February 2019 20:28 (five years ago) link
90 seconds with leniency of a few seconds seems acceptable to me. (Yes, I have a 1:33 candidate.)
― zama roma ding dong (Eric H.), Tuesday, 12 February 2019 20:30 (five years ago) link
I vote for the original 2:00. Historically, songs under 2:00 stood apart; if you were to comb old reviews, I'm positive that that would be the benchmark that warranted comment (e.g., the first Ramones album--six songs under 2:00). And if you dropped it to 1:30 or 1:00, you'd lose so many great songs. But if you raised it to 2:30, the field would be way too large, and there's nothing especially significant about a song that runs 2:25. I understand it's a completely arbitrary call, but 2:00 is a nice round number--like 10:00--that splits the difference well, I'd say.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 12 February 2019 21:48 (five years ago) link
I also suspect that dropping to 1:30 or 1:00 would lead to a disproportionate number of punk songs (which would certainly account for part of my own list, but there's a lot of great doo-wop, for instance, that falls in the 1:30-2:00 range--it'd be hard to find a great doo-wop song under 1:30).
― clemenza, Tuesday, 12 February 2019 21:53 (five years ago) link
agree
― imago, Tuesday, 12 February 2019 21:54 (five years ago) link
going through my itunes library and 2 minutes is way way too long. 90 seconds feels right
― sun-kil moonsician (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 01:18 (five years ago) link
I'm down for this poll, however we decide on structuring it, though I vote for 2:00 as the cutoff. Whether an exactly two minute song counts is something we'll have to work out: all that it determines for me at this point is whether or not I get to include "Walking to New Orleans" by Fats Domino.
― Timothée Charalambides (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 01:24 (five years ago) link
Idk, 2 minutes to me seems like a regular song length. There’s no novelty in it. Even shortening it down to 1:50 or 1:55 would make the results far more interesting imo
― sun-kil moonsician (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 01:38 (five years ago) link
Should we just say anything < 2 mins?
― Timothée Charalambides (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 01:43 (five years ago) link
two things, not sure if Leee is a regular poster any longer, unless he has changed his log in name? so someone else might have to take over that poll.
also, someone really needs to sign up and do Low now.
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 01:53 (five years ago) link
I expect little crossover between Low and the under-two-minutes poll.
― Timothée Charalambides (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 01:55 (five years ago) link
let’s poll the options ?
1 min1:30 m2 m inclusive2 m exclusive2:30 m
― budo jeru, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 01:58 (five years ago) link
I guess we know what #95 is going to be. Sounds like fun.
I vote 2 min inclusion
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 02:06 (five years ago) link
Likewise.
― Timothée Charalambides (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 02:06 (five years ago) link
We also need to wait for the Metal poll to close as a courtesy.
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 02:09 (five years ago) link
2 minutes inclusive sounds good, although I'm wondering whether the technical cutoff should be something like 2:03, just to allow for silences and fadeouts in what are basically legitimate songs.
― jmm, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 02:10 (five years ago) link
leee's definitely still here! i see him a lot in the video game threads, among other places. he's probably just busy playing God of War right now ;)
one idea: just let leee decide the cut-off, since it was his idea! personally, i think 2:30 would be too long but i'd support anything 2 and under
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 02:17 (five years ago) link
tbf, Leee hadn't posted for 70 minutes at the time Bee fretted
― The Very Fugly Caterpillar (sic), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 03:56 (five years ago) link
he's probably just busy playing God of War right now ;)
I won't have such aspersions cast about me!
I wasn't really planning on running any polls (though kind of musing about voting in a Cat Power one), but if the people want one, who am I to argue? I also don't want to lay sole claim to running a shorties poll, so if anyone has a burning desire, I'm happy to give them the responsibility. If not, I can still run it, though would welcome help with graphics.
― Zelda: Broth of the Wild (Leee), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 07:34 (five years ago) link
Bumping for the US day crowd.
― A Grape Ape Agape (Leee), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 18:29 (five years ago) link
2 min and below sounds good to me.
― kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 18:36 (five years ago) link
Agree
― ultros ultros-ghali, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 18:38 (five years ago) link
1:59 and below
― steven, soda jerk (sic), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 18:48 (five years ago) link
^^^
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 18:49 (five years ago) link
yes
― imago, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 18:51 (five years ago) link
fine by moi
― bhad bundy (Simon H.), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 18:51 (five years ago) link
I just want to be able to vote hard for "Over Fire Island".
― jmm, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 18:59 (five years ago) link
A few good Young Marble Giants options too, hmmm
― jmm, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 19:09 (five years ago) link
Hey leee, this is weird but I guess I have a burning desire to do it. I enjoy the process and I’ve never ran an entire one myself!
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 19:10 (five years ago) link
Hey leee, this is weird but I suppose I have a burning desire to do it. I enjoy the process and I’ve never ran an entire one myself!
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 19:12 (five years ago) link
Hey Leee! Whoops, lol
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 19:13 (five years ago) link
Notice I changed “guess” to “suppose”It’s hard out here on ILX
Kool Karl! Giving you the krown. I'm not too picky about < 2:00 or <= 2:00.
Also, two computers ago I had a collating/point totaling script, I might try to rewrite it if you need it.
― A Grape Ape Agape (Leee), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 19:41 (five years ago) link