Led Zeppelin: Classic Or Dud?

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yeah, or tape speed?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Guitar/comments/2w0976/weird_tuning_on_led_zeppelin_tangerine/

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 8 February 2019 04:44 (seven years ago)

Isn’t a pedal steel kind of hard to tune?

Only a Factory URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 8 February 2019 04:52 (seven years ago)

very

budo jeru, Friday, 8 February 2019 04:58 (seven years ago)

The pedal steel on "Your Time..." sounds like it's actually out of tune. "Tangerine" generally sounds in tune to me, just about a quarter-tone down from A=440 Hz concert pitch, as Al says. I feel like I recall Beatles tunes that are also a bit like this. I don't recall a definitive reason given for it on "Tangerine" but on this Reddit thread, people suggest the possibilities of tape speed alteration or the fussiness of 12-strings of the time, both of which might be credible (esp the first). This 1975 live version seems a lot closer to A440.

Ha 3xp!

silent as a seashell Julia (Sund4r), Friday, 8 February 2019 05:00 (seven years ago)

I feel like there could be something a little unnatural about the timbre of the voice on the recording; it seems noticeable when comparing to the live video. Tape speed alteration sounds believable to me.

silent as a seashell Julia (Sund4r), Friday, 8 February 2019 05:11 (seven years ago)

I'm sure there's literally thousands of examples of tape speed manipulation knocking the overall pitch of tracks just slightly out of standard pitch. There's an entire Stranglers album (La Folie) that's like this because of the way Tony Visconti mixed it.

Then again, in the days of vinyl I'm sure different turntables all had their own inherent quirks which could potentially lead to further subtle pitch differences.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 8 February 2019 07:17 (seven years ago)

It's weird to think that there was a point in their early career where Zep had to mime their songs on TV shows like any other band of the era...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMRJSXHJ8ok

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 20 February 2019 18:20 (seven years ago)

xpost Just about every song on "Highway to Hell" is in a different varispeed-manipulated key.

Obv. Zep get into tape manipulation a lot more on "Houses of the Holy" and "IV."

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 21:11 (seven years ago)

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