ILM’s Top 77 Tracks of 2018

Seemingly throwaway CRJ track much better than almost all the pop in the actual 77

Oh I'm just saying there should have been way more than a mere token pick (which I like btw).

KKB doesn't quite cut it. An outro is not enough to épater le bourgeois.

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KKB is just some indie rock that gets noisy at the end. lol

I don't think there shouldn't be any space for that stuff unless its good. Which the autechre (from samples) wasn't. At this point its as much of a look back as Oasis.

(from samples)

This is where you went wrong.

It makes more sense in the context of the NTS sessions as a whole.

Absolutely. It's a cathartic closer.

I'm unfamiliar with a lot of autechre's back cat, have they ever used samples?

anyway this was fun, I quite liked the top end of the list, thank you all

There are a few tracks, especially early on (notably Basscadet, Under BOAC) that use samples, but if they make any extensive use of them, they're manipulated to high heaven

You wouldn't just say to people you need the whole of a big book or whatever to get it. Its perfectly fine to sample.

I do think of All End as more of a statement track or some sort of contextual piece than something that works alone. It's not representative of their sound and while it's fairly interesting in the way the drone shifts around, I don't think of it as being much different from other extended drone pieces that exist

Something like violvoic or e0 fromt he NTS sessions would have been a more representative highlight, although I see why All End was chosen.

Yeah, I described my ambivalence earlier, but an hour-long noise drone probably needs to be listened to in its full duration to be evaluated. xp to LBI

You wouldn't just say to people you need the whole of a big book or whatever to get it.

Actually…

Yeah, I wouldn't recommend judging Moby Dick based on excerpts either.

(But it may be weird to see it pop up on a short-story poll...)

Yeah, I wouldn't recommend judging Moby Dick based on excerpts either.

― silent as a seashell Julia (Sund4r), Friday, February 1, 2019 10:16 AM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

hmmm i judged it on its name (moby dick) and one of its covers (whale) and i judged it as "VERY good" and so far as i understand i was correct

Does "tracks" imply brevity? xp

I listened to all of All End and it certainly wasn't groundbreaking. Was it different from all the other tracks? Yes. Would the poll results have been better with (a lot) more variety? Yes, as Matt pointed out even within popular music this was a rather narrow vein.

we're all getting old

xxp No, but its length does make it an anomaly. I’m not saying it should be dq’d or anything... it’s actually pretty impressive that it placed, given its nature

hmmm i judged it on its name (moby dick) and one of its covers (whale) and i judged it as "VERY good" and so far as i understand i was correct

I'm just saying the blues-rock riff doesn't really give you a sense of Bonham's extended solo.

This twitter account on Moby Dick is what got me to read the book (years of just lazily thinking that I don't need to read about whaling):

https://twitter.com/MobyDickatSea

That twenty minute live rendition on How the West Was Won is quite something indeed.

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But you'd get more if you read the whole blog: https://voices.clickhole.com/the-time-i-spent-on-a-commercial-whaling-ship-totally-c-1825124286
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Hahaha

In fact there are a lot of excerpts from big books on twitter, or people sharing favourite passages that convince you to commit a large chunk of time to very big books.

I know a drone might be a different business although the lenghty drones I like pull me in quite quickly (some are longer than an hour). I didn't get that sense from autechre.

Sund4r otm

Seriously, though, it's meant as a palate cleanser. It's worth at least sampling the other tracks to appreciate the contrast.

can definitely see why people consider 'all end' the highlight of those sessions but it's a really weird track to place in this context, especially when the NTS Sessions are full of absolute corkers that probably would've converted a few of you lot

did anything from elseq place in 2016?

frogbs otm, I get the impression it was a consensus pick to get something from the NTS Sessions on the singles poll

I can't remember, did we break them out by individual session for the albums poll?

no, I just voted for them as a whole, which again is a bit odd b/c each of the 4 sessions on their own is almost certainly longer than anything else that'll place

so I guess in some sense, an hour-long track making the singles poll is pretty in character for Autechre

Is that the longest track to make any of these singles polls?

no - Nyan Cat and Bieber extended beat it by a fair few hours I think

You do need to listen to all 10 hours of Nyan Cat to get it.

Also true of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxopViU98Xo

imo you don’t particularly need to listen to all of the nts sessions but i’d recommend at least listening to the beginning of nts 4 just to get the sense that “all end” is not necessarily a singular, ground-breaking, mind-bending drone (though it is mind-bending) but is more of a destination

NTS 2 is more fun though.

(yes I'm turning this into another Autechre thread)

Maybe silly to vote for a destination in a tracks poll tho?

I dunno, you kids and your polls

my brain is broken because it just came up with "baby shark (extended autechre mix)"

bloop bloop bloop bloop bloop bloop

Maybe silly to vote for a destination in a tracks poll tho?

well i didn’t vote for it! but as part of a listening experience i can see why ppl isolated it, it is a massively heavy and impressive end to the project

Yeah I wasn't singling you out Brad I just think "tracks" and voting gives people odd ideas sometimes, like it's not a natural unit of listening for some pollsters but they chime in anyway

like not everyone could agree on the more scrambled and runic autechre tracks from the sessions but almost everyone agreed that “all end” melted their brain down into pancake batter

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I thought Nyan Cat was like 3 minutes and someone just extended it to 10 hrs on YouTube, as they do

lmao @ the Bieber thing making it. slow year

ranked, bold didn't place:

Low - Fly
Die Nerven – Niemals
Lump - Curse of the Contemporary
Julia Holter - I Shall Love 2
okkervil river - famous tracheotomies
Snail Mail - Speaking Terms
Hollydays – L’odeur des joints
The Breeders - MetaGoth
Beliu – Win Everyday
J Mascis - See You at the Movies
Meshell Ndegeocello - Waterfalls
Malakoff Kowalski - My First Piano
The Beths - Little Death
Grouper - Parking Lot
Tropical Fuck Storm – Rubber Bullies
Melody's Echo Chamber - Shirim
Parquet Courts - Almost Had to Start a Fight/In and Out of Patience
The Nels Cline 4 - Imperfect 10
Tocotronic – Bis uns das Licht vertreibt
Richard Thompson - The Storm Won't Come
Aimee Mann - Drive
jimothy lacoste - subway system
Element of Crime – Am ersten Sonntag nach dem Weltuntergang
Johnny Marr – Hi Hello
Tracey Thorn - Smoke

wrong thread, sorry.

this is the Autechre thread now