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It bothers me that they keep saying Billy was very charismatic and convincing when everyone involved was simply blinded by greed.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 03:23 (seven years ago)

This all makes me wonder when we're going to get the tell-all ATP doc, the final word on the UK's own lo-fi Ponzi scheme festival.

and let's not forget the other UK based entitled generation festival story :

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/festival-fraud-aristocrat-still-paying-355k-back-to-parents-a3591381.html

went to one of the earlier ones before the fraud was revealed.
we were the only people (with kids no less!) drinking beer, the bar was mainly stocked with bottles champagne.

mark e, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 09:24 (seven years ago)

Come on guys, this is clearly the UK analogue: http://www.grubstreet.com/2017/08/cheese-festival-disaster.html

emil.y, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 14:29 (seven years ago)

Some justice. And a kicker of a final paragraph.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/22/world/americas/maryann-rolle-fyre-festival-gofundme.html

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 14:37 (seven years ago)

As in new Gawker

Of course this photo of Gawker's editorial director with Fyre Festival organizer Billy McFarland exists. Of course it does. pic.twitter.com/Bn8PFfF5LC

— Kim Bhasin (@KimBhasin) January 23, 2019

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 17:01 (seven years ago)

And if you want an update on that person:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/gawker-writers-quit-over-editorial-director-carson-griffiths-offensive-tweets-workplace-comments

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 17:01 (seven years ago)

fyre media is going well

mh, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 17:07 (seven years ago)

It bothers me that they keep saying Billy was very charismatic and convincing when everyone involved was simply blinded by greed.

― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 03:23 (fourteen hours ago) Permalink


By the end of the doc, it's pretty clear that "charisma" in this context (and perhaps in the start-up world more broadly?) is shorthand for "Ability to meet bad news with a brave face by putting the squeeze on somebody, somewhere, until the absolute minimum funds needed to briefly hold disaster at bay in the short term have materialized," so there is a certain perverse logic to it. This dovetails with what somebody already said upthread re: the need for the con artist to make the mark feel as if they (the mark) will come out on top.

The thing from the popular "That Thing" song (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 18:38 (seven years ago)

When will the NYT stop calling McFarland an entrepreneur and start calling him “convicted scam artist” or “jailed con man”?

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 24 January 2019 02:22 (seven years ago)

When he stops being rich and white

harvey wall/barrier (voodoo chili), Thursday, 24 January 2019 03:52 (seven years ago)

The first is more likely imo

harvey wall/barrier (voodoo chili), Thursday, 24 January 2019 03:52 (seven years ago)

only one man can end the government shutdown pic.twitter.com/zcxHKZeOeZ

— #TheRamsistance 🐏 (@MilesKlee) January 25, 2019

mh, Friday, 25 January 2019 18:22 (seven years ago)

haha he did like mushrooms

calumy (rip van wanko), Friday, 25 January 2019 18:31 (seven years ago)

yeraC wrote:

AA had apartments in certain cities for all the photogenic salespeople that were favorites to crash at and hang out.

I used to live across from one of these, it was nuts!

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 25 January 2019 18:55 (seven years ago)

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Lee626, Saturday, 26 January 2019 02:18 (seven years ago)

This seemed very much in line with the Madoff phenomenon of scamming people by making them believe they are in on a different kind of scam

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Saturday, 26 January 2019 05:04 (seven years ago)

It seems like a disaster even as a scam/con, though. How could you invite rich and well-connected to an event, charge them through the nose, not deliver, and then expect no consequences? My partner compared the doc to Moby Dick, where all these people were on this quasi-suicide mission led by a madman with a singular, but insane, vision.

Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Sunday, 27 January 2019 17:54 (seven years ago)

Netflix doc was better probably. Nthing that the footage from the NYC VIP Access apartment was fuckin nuts.

Norm’s Superego (silby), Sunday, 27 January 2019 18:11 (seven years ago)

This thing cost me $300 and it’s an empty box pic.twitter.com/gJ9T6arw1m

— adam.the.creator (@AdamPadilla) January 27, 2019

groovypanda, Sunday, 27 January 2019 19:19 (seven years ago)

the Netflix doc was really good. Having been involved with at least one project where it got a jump-start via a slick, well-produced video and then turned into (on a much smaller scale) a mini Fyre Festival-type disaster, I can understand where all of the involved parties are coming from. If someone is doing a job, even if they think the people above them are fucking up completely, there yet remains a stubbornness at play, in that they want to see it through and do their part and not abandon it. And only later after the fact do a lot of people really see the full scale of the disaster. My particularly disastrous job involved a bit of embezzlement and con artistry and complete unpreparedness and lawsuits as well. Fortunately I was a freelance hired hand who wasn't involved in any of that, and they sent me off in the same way they sent the pilot off in this documentary.

omar little, Monday, 28 January 2019 16:58 (seven years ago)

Can u dish further

Norm’s Superego (silby), Monday, 28 January 2019 17:31 (seven years ago)

sounds a little like a certain presidential administration we all know /trench

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 28 January 2019 18:34 (seven years ago)

lol, remembered and found this fb update I had posted:

J_________
September 11, 2015
I keep seeing ads for "Magnises." Is that the latin word for assholes?

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 28 January 2019 18:35 (seven years ago)

9/11 never forget

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 28 January 2019 18:35 (seven years ago)

yeah hate to make everything about this asshole but the whole doc felt like an incredibly specific parable about the Trump era and the SV-style "think big and fail fast!" style of management

frogbs, Monday, 28 January 2019 18:44 (seven years ago)

Can u dish further

― Norm’s Superego (silby), Monday, January 28, 2019 9:31 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

very minor, very small scale compared to Fyre. and not a festival, it was TV. the vague details i can give is it was a TV show that literally no one saw, one the company tried to save by stealing money from another show they were producing for a competing network, but that just led to both shows being canceled and the company folding. the head of the company was similarly a panicky sociopath who put on a good front but was a total failure.

omar little, Monday, 28 January 2019 18:46 (seven years ago)

If I were Ned I would post this and say

"I have questions"

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/7x9wvb/blink-182-matt-skiba-fyre-fest-witchcraft-cancellation?utm_source=vicefbus&fbclid=IwAR0orbNaV3323tb2BJk9nX4BslkNEyPSjWTTJjJjlv3Ok-GYoWVIOcwNwSw

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 28 January 2019 20:23 (seven years ago)

I put all the electricity and energy in my body against that thing happening

The good news was that so did its founder

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 28 January 2019 20:29 (seven years ago)

xpost -- Accurate.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 28 January 2019 20:40 (seven years ago)

Not quite.

fyre festival is going well

sans lep (sic), Monday, 28 January 2019 21:36 (seven years ago)

lmao

Norm’s Superego (silby), Monday, 28 January 2019 22:28 (seven years ago)

Astounding!

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 29 January 2019 02:17 (seven years ago)

grjaertgj;asertgjsergmnrsegsertfgwer!

Andy King has seen all of your FYRE Fest memes — and he loves them! pic.twitter.com/mCNgDoHpjW

— Netflix US (@netflix) January 29, 2019

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 29 January 2019 22:21 (seven years ago)

But you know, credit to the guy, he's also using it to promote this newer GoFundMe

https://www.gofundme.com/the-exuma-foundation-for-victims-of-fyre-festival

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 29 January 2019 22:28 (seven years ago)

sorry dude, you are the blowjob king of the world forever and are headlining coachella
i'm surprised HE'S the guy who started the gofundme! good for him!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 29 January 2019 22:31 (seven years ago)

My first thought when he popped up in the movie was, this guy has been dining out on this story ever since. And he just extended its shelf life.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 29 January 2019 22:34 (seven years ago)

If he's not in the next Evian commercial they should fire their marketing staff immediately

frogbs, Tuesday, 29 January 2019 22:36 (seven years ago)

their 501(c) is too new to be on charitynavigator or whatever so.. hopefully they don’t have 40% admin costs

mh, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 00:56 (seven years ago)

http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/lostinshowbiz/2019/jan/24/netflixs-fyre-festival-masterclass-influencers

The only surprising thing is that some social media manager at Evian hasn’t themselves tried to turn this into some kind of influencer campaign. Imagine a couple of makeup vloggers, a Jonas brother and that egg that has the most Instagram likes, all staring moodily into the camera clutching a bottle of the clear stuff with the hashtag #idsuckdickforevian. It would certainly be one way to steal the limelight back from the Fiji Water Girl.

Lee626, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 11:49 (seven years ago)

There’s an, um, fyrewall.

Only a Factory URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 1 February 2019 14:50 (seven years ago)

https://youtu.be/E5mz0wb7wi4

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 1 February 2019 15:01 (seven years ago)

Thankyre kindly!

Only a Factory URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 1 February 2019 15:07 (seven years ago)

Love how on the original Fyre trailer the music is still some predictable, hack piece of shit even after that idiot Margolin's ridiculous brief.

MaresNest, Friday, 1 February 2019 15:35 (seven years ago)

I want to read Grant Margolin’s livejournal

Norm’s Superego (silby), Friday, 1 February 2019 16:00 (seven years ago)

Has anyone watched both docs? I've heard the Netflix one is much more favorable to the FuckJerry people than the Hulu one.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 1 February 2019 16:18 (seven years ago)

some of my favorite edits in the Netflix Fyre doc involve Grant trying to play tough and cocky but looking extremely desperate and terrified.

omar little, Friday, 1 February 2019 16:21 (seven years ago)

the netflix one has a lot more behind the scenes footage due to the collaboration and they play it off as "hey we're just the marketing company, we weren't there to vet things" and their soft exit is the day of the festival when the fyre dudes ask for control of the social media accounts

the hulu doc has a lot of stock footage but overall better analysis of the entire clusterfuck. and you get the billy interview, where it's clear he's incapable of making it through a conversation without making shit up on the spot

mh, Friday, 1 February 2019 16:28 (seven years ago)

Has anyone watched both docs? I've heard the Netflix one is much more favorable to the FuckJerry people than the Hulu one.

there's a thread on some messageboard where people who've watched both discuss them

sans lep (sic), Friday, 1 February 2019 19:29 (seven years ago)

ban irony

https://www.metrotimes.com/the-scene/archives/2019/01/29/yes-a-fyre-festival-larp-on-detroits-belle-isle-is-apparently-really-going-to-happen

theorizing your yells (katherine), Friday, 1 February 2019 22:05 (seven years ago)


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