I guess a lot of them have Peter Gabriel folks on them. Jerry Marotta, Tony Levin, David Rhodes, Manu Katche ...
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 21 January 2019 19:28 (five years ago) link
walk under ladders is at least a 9.4
agree
― geoffreyess, Monday, 21 January 2019 19:35 (five years ago) link
wait which JCM song does Fast Car rip
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 18:43 (five years ago) link
"Suckin' on a Chili Dog (Slight Return)"
― ebro the letter (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 22 January 2019 18:46 (five years ago) link
the "Fast Car" guitar lick/chord progression has always sounded to me like it was lifted from the acoustic line in the verse of "Jack and Diane"
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 18:49 (five years ago) link
eh there's some similarity to say lifted is a bit much
also fast car is like 10X better of a song
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 22 January 2019 18:56 (five years ago) link
^agreed
― i stan corrected (morrisp), Tuesday, 22 January 2019 18:57 (five years ago) link
ok yeah I hear that, but it's only half of the riff and it's an insert that only occurs a couple times
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 19:04 (five years ago) link
THIS is the version of Fast Car to worry about:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJWxkYu8WgU
― Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Tuesday, 22 January 2019 19:31 (five years ago) link
always glad to see that video surface again
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 22 January 2019 19:34 (five years ago) link
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, January 22, 2019 10:56 AM (forty-seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 22 January 2019 19:44 (five years ago) link
omg that jim o'rourke thing is great
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 22 January 2019 19:57 (five years ago) link
lol I love how he doesn't even play the riff himself, he just loops the intro to the song and sings over it before going bananas in MaxMSP or something for 20 minutes.
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 20:10 (five years ago) link
If Pitchfork goes behind a paywall I will scream a scream that cracks heaven and pass through all the known realms to fight God himself https://t.co/80uMMelnim— Jeremy Gordon (@jeremypgordon) January 23, 2019
Oh boy
― josh az (2011nostalgia), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 15:16 (five years ago) link
lmao no one will read it
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 15:19 (five years ago) link
So as someone who still relies on Pitchfork as my primary daily source of reviews and recommendations, what alternative would folks suggest if this comes to pass?
― enochroot, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 15:24 (five years ago) link
Why not pay for something that is your "primary daily source of reviews and recommendations"?
― Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 15:24 (five years ago) link
I dunno, paywalls are psychologically hard to accept. The internet's all about paths of least resistance.
― jmm, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 15:36 (five years ago) link
The link about putting content behind paywalls is behind a paywall for me.
― Position Position, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 15:46 (five years ago) link
maybe it won’t apply to pfrok since it’s not in print?
― flopson, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 15:49 (five years ago) link
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, January 23, 2019 10:19 AM (twenty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah otm lol. won’t take em long to figure this out
― flopson, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 15:50 (five years ago) link
what kinda geniuses they got working up in there anyway
― j., Wednesday, 23 January 2019 15:51 (five years ago) link
This article says each product will feature a different type of paywall: https://fashionista.com/2019/01/conde-nast-paywall-vogue-gqI have a hard time believing the review section of Pitchfork can work with a paywall, but hey, perhaps now we know why seemingly all of editorial has resigned recently?
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 15:54 (five years ago) link
They resigned becuz they had buyout deals, this is not a mystery
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 16:04 (five years ago) link
xps the criticism of "The Dreaming" in that review seemed otm to me though i'd never thought about it before or realised that's what was with the bizarre voice she used on that song and i'm australian. i can appreciate Bush's intentions in criticising destruction of indigenous lands etc. but the execution seems naive and clumsy at best and isn't really defensible.
i don't really hear "aural Orientalism" in "Pull Out the Pin"'s sound effects though, the crickets combined with the helicopter sounds just seem to emphasise the vietnam war setting?
lol at the paywall - i can't really see it being successful for them when there's so many other sites offering functionally identical content
― ufo, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 16:06 (five years ago) link
Like, the terms of conde nast’s buyout probably included a provision requiring senior staff to stay on board for a certain amount of time before they would get all their money. Thats how these things usually work ime
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 16:08 (five years ago) link
Xps
i can appreciate Bush's intentions in criticising destruction of indigenous lands etc. but the execution seems naive and clumsy at best and isn't really defensible.
I agree with this, however I can't get with this line from the review: she unfairly extracts cultural (and economic) value from Aboriginal suffering just as the characters in the song mine their land. Exactly the same thing!
― We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 16:22 (five years ago) link
yeah it's not like they get nothing—they get to be in a song
― j., Wednesday, 23 January 2019 16:25 (five years ago) link
tbf Bush songs have rendered thousands of acres of land unusable
― We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 16:26 (five years ago) link
seemingly all of editorial has resigned recently
if this is true then i'm unaware of it? what tea leaves are you reading fred
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 16:30 (five years ago) link
I was just referring to Richardson and Schreiber, who I assume got money from the buyout
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 16:38 (five years ago) link
yeah that's p common
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 16:40 (five years ago) link
lol mark leaving feels like it was 100 years ago
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 16:50 (five years ago) link
Yeah, it's just speculation based on two people. Shakey is persuasive.
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 16:52 (five years ago) link
i've read/checked the site every day for over a decade and will have no problem stopping once it goes behind a paywall. i haven't really minded the degradation/homogenization of the site, it's been a long time since I discovered a band I loved via p4k, doesn't feel like a loss.
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 17:00 (five years ago) link
I wouldn't mind paying for Pitchfork if it hadn't descended into the kind of celebrity-worshiping, surface-level broad pop culture/lifestyle website that there are a million of now anyway. All it has to distinguish it from others is its legacy/history.
Someone will write a good book about this whole thing one day, I'm sure.
― triggercut, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 17:05 (five years ago) link
Honest question: are there any music-journalism-focused print subscriptions that are worth spending money on in 2019?
― triggercut, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 17:08 (five years ago) link
the wire
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 17:12 (five years ago) link
All it has to distinguish it from others is its legacy/history.
what about the large amount of longform high quality music writing published daily?
im actually bullish on a post-white dudes in their mid forties pitchfork, puja patel rules imo
― flopson, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 17:39 (five years ago) link
it's been a long time since I discovered a band I loved via p4k
the site stopped “breaking” bands (or at least, lost first mover advantage to blogs then social media) in like 2007 tho
― flopson, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 17:41 (five years ago) link
― Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre)
why not pay for music?
― The Elvis of Nationalism and Amoral Patriotism (rushomancy), Thursday, 24 January 2019 01:24 (five years ago) link
the value of a BNM has been steadily decreasing since 2-3 years ago. it will definitely plummet if 90% of their former readers can't see it.
― billstevejim, Thursday, 24 January 2019 01:39 (five years ago) link
Will “October” also be behind the paywall? 🍺 💵
― i stan corrected (morrisp), Thursday, 24 January 2019 01:41 (five years ago) link
― triggercut, Wednesday, January 23, 2019 12:05 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
otm
― Paul Ponzi, Thursday, 24 January 2019 13:41 (five years ago) link
y'all deserve each other
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 January 2019 14:01 (five years ago) link
what, you mean like this? (published today)
"Duendita’s soul music speaks to the heart and spirit. Ordained by her connection to the ups and downs of the human experience, she is a gateway to the divine."
I'll probably still check out the record, but jesus wept.
― does it look like i'm here (jon123), Thursday, 24 January 2019 14:39 (five years ago) link
That's some straight up
Pitchfork: King PU$$Y Eater revolutionizes our perception of bodies and spaces with his hit single "Goop on Ya Grinch" [7.6]— mustard tiger (@JucheMane) April 14, 2017
― triggercut, Thursday, 24 January 2019 14:45 (five years ago) link
lol
I *think* they might still be a bit upset that I called them out for their toxic masculinity. 😘 https://t.co/jlnvVF7z0h— James Blake (@jamesblake) January 23, 2019
― resident hack (Simon H.), Thursday, 24 January 2019 14:51 (five years ago) link
The Fork is into toxic masculinity these days?
― pomenitul, Thursday, 24 January 2019 14:53 (five years ago) link