fyre festival is going well

mh OTM

only seen the netflix doc, but there's definitely a "you can't cheat an honest man" thing going on w/everyone that got sucked up into this

I'll try that again..

https://youtube/vop_XdfFPts

Oh fuck it.

the Hulu doc uses two clips of Entertainment 720

he made it pretty far for a guy whose only idea was to sell the idea of access without ever providing anyone any access

unless a few people getting the wrong Hamilton tickets minutes before the show directly from the company owner counts

Many of the talking heads in the Netflix doc, when seen in profile, had a man bun. Red flag right there.

I liked that one yoga teacher guy, maybe because he vaguely reminds me of a friend of mine, not sure if he had a man bun, but yeah.

Re mh’s convincing analysis: maybe the guy’s schlubbiness actually broadened his appeal.

Yoga guy totally had a man bun. You didn't even have to see his profile to know.

There was a thing about how Elizabeth Holmes kept her hair and makeup kind of schlubby on purpose in order to be taken seriously and gain trust.

Yerac, have you read the Carryrou book on Theranos/Holmes? what a trip

No, I haven't . Only just the articles that came out after. The thing about her voice was hilarious.

What about her voice? Was there some kind of Lauren Bacall thing going on where she intentionally lowered it?

Yep.

Apparently it's going to made into a movie with Jennifer Lawrence playing Holmes.

Feel like what I read implies that movie has already been shot and will be finished this year.

No maybe not, just in development sorry.

Half an hour into the Hulu one, the millennialsplaining is fucking unbearable

It is over the top. I started laughing when there was a stock clip of whack a mole.

originally I was going to say that Theranos was a different type of grift, but in a way... no

there was actual capital invested in equipment and r&d but the core part of the grift was still telling people there was a product that never existed while trying to keep it rolling as long as possible without even trying to find a viable plan b

only instead of ja rule, theranos had a board with like... former high level government officials.

honestly, ja rule is probably more credible than henry kissinger though

kissinger never contributed anything as good as "holla holla" to this world

I don't think he would've gotten as far without Ja Rule.

henry kissinger has never jumped on the mic with fat joe (afaik)

Wasn't Theranos more a case of trying to dress up a pig, to continue marketing a real product that was unfortunately being proven with each successive test/trial to be less useful than hoped. Not conceived as a con, more morphed into one

I'm sure they fully expected putting on a music festival would be easy.

xp nope, they never actually had a viable product. they were literally buying existing machines and shipping samples back to use them, and then trying to shoehorn old tech into a box, and the actual product use case was "tiny vial of blood from finger stick does these tests" and it's nearly a given that the tests they were doing would never be usable with blood taken that way. like, as far as we still know, that type of sample will never give you the ability to do that type of test because the needle's too small to collect that type of sample

excuse the redundancy in that last redundant sentence

I'm still waiting for some follow-up reports on whether it's true that the recent nyc grifter Anna Delvey actually stayed at the magnises townhouse or w/e

just a perfect storm of grifterness

https://www.gofundme.com/help-fyre-festival039s-billy-mcfarland-bounce-back

"$6 of $27M goal"

Mh, is she in jail now?

xp I thought for a second that the Gofundme for Mcfardland has raised $6mil and was about to throw my phone across the room

(Obvs I didn’t intend to write “Mcfardland” but now I kinda like it)

Mcfartland even better.

going in on the Netflix doc and a few minutes I’ve got to say that the moral posturing in interviews about how Hulu was in the wrong to pay a fee for an interview was some amazing bullshit considering this is obviously made up of a lot of footage shot by the promo company

‘they captured a lot of footage that, from a marketing perspective, was second to none”
— ceo of company that shot the marketing footage

"jerry media" actually co-produced the film

that would be the much larger conflict of interest I meant to allude to

I also keep getting stuck on the fact the “maginses” logo, while probably looking like a ton of logos, is basically a curvy version of the Mission Workshop brand’s logo. Which makes sense because the white/grey create a M & W and... hell, whatever

The Theranos book by Carreyrou is extremely good.

For those interested, Alex Gibney (the guy behind the Enron doc and the HBO Scientology doc) made a Theranos doc, which probably comes out this year: https://techcrunch.com/2018/11/28/the-inventor-a-documentary-about-theranos-and-the-psychology-of-deception-will-premiere-at-sundance/

https://www.rollingstone.com/movies/movie-news/fyre-fest-documentary-cook-fundraising-goal-782116/

The Theranos book by Carreyrou is extremely good.

Did the Hulu doc interview any artists who weren't involved in the "production" of this thing? That was something I missed in the Netflix doc -- I want to know what was promised the artists other than big bucks, if anything. I didn't mind that the Fuckjerry material was Fuckjerry material, because even when folks are doing everything they can to make stuff look sexy and desirable, dead eyes and looking away all the time are still dead eyes and looking away all the time and readable.

No artists were interviewed in either doc. The Netflix doc is much closer to the production team and there is a lot more covering the planning, booking, etc. I'm definitely of the mind that if you're interested in the story, watching both docs is worthwhile.

Netflix did interview Jillionaire of Major Lazer.

The major lazer guy is interviewed briefly in the Netflix one and that’s it as far as artists

Xp

Sorry, my miss. I stand corrected!

Fair enough about Jillionaire, and he was definitely one of the more interesting heads talking -- he didn't really get into the business end all that much, and functions in the doc a little more as "sane Caribbean voice #5" than talking about the music business end. And his interview is followed quickly by a poor put-upon Fyre droid having to deal with an annoying artist about font size -- and if you've ever been on the other side of that conversation, you don't end up with too much sympathy for the poor put-upon Fyre droid.

The Major Lazer dude actually had one of the most critical comments on "influencer" culture and hidden advertising, which the Netflix doc didn't touch too much otherwise. As for the other artists, I dunno what interviewing them would've gained? As mentioned in the doc, at least some of them were promised a significantly larger fee than they normally get from a festival date, what other explanation do you need why they chose to participate? And when their managers realised the whole festival was fucked up, they promptly cancelled. Can't imagine there's much of a story there.