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I think their frequent interchangeability is good too

my new controversial music opinion is that 150+ posts about Pink Floyd is too many

unfortunately pink floyd continues to rule

Ts Pink Floyd vs Nirvana

contrarian anti-syd opinions bum me out to an unreasonable degree

it's contrarian to be anti-syd? they're basically 2 diff bands with/without him

I thought it was just me who had hard time telling them apart, cause I do that a lot.

Same here, yet I get impatient when friends have the same problem distinguishing Ben Orr and Ric Ocasek; they sound so obv different.

Orr and Ocasek ARE v different, though!

I feel like there are many vocalists who have a greater range than Waters to Gilmour all by themselves so it isn't really weird to not be able to differentiate them. In retrospect I'm not sure why, but for years (pre-internet, I guess) I assumed Gilmour sang pretty much everything.

Ha, I just realized I mixed them up on "Good Times Roll". xp

Ben Ear and Ric Ocashuck?

Is it controversial to hate the Kinks, especially Village Green?

Oh, I actually like the histrionic proto-Arcade Fire vox on Wall stuff like "One of My Turns"/"Don't Leave Me Now". I'd probably like more of that.

― Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r)

proto-arcade fire nothing, he copped that from john lennon

xp I've seen a far amount of Kinks hate on ILM. not from me tho

pls no kinkshaming

Lol

Same here, yet I get impatient when friends have the same problem distinguishing Ben Orr and Ric Ocasek; they sound so obv different.

― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, January 15, 2019 2:30 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Orr turns on a more Ocasek-y voice on occasion though! Like in "Shooting For You":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4878R8M4Ibw

sure, if you're a real head you can tell that's Orr, but imo it's within reason to hear the hiccupiness of the vocals and think it's Ocasek

pls no kinkshaming

― Effectively Big Jim with a beard. (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, January 17, 2019 10:12 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol. I'm mostly past the point in my life where I care enough about a band I don't particularly like to "hate" them, but I heard Apeman on the radio this morning and it made me deeply IA.

Controversial opinion...there is some crit acclaimed stoner music that's like a dude playing two chords really slowly for 14 minutes and that kind of stoner music is boring af

I fucking love funeral doom so I feel like a charlatan for agreeing yet here we are.

But then again death is more interesting than weed.

Controversial opinion...there is some crit acclaimed stoner music that's like a dude playing two chords really slowly for 14 minutes and that kind of stoner music is boring af

I have been to way too many shows with stuff like this, also it crosses over w/psych and noise scenes ... and it is indeed boring af

like a few years back when I had a bandmate, we were in our practice space, which had a kitchen, and my bandmate was hungry and found some chocolates in the fridge so he ate about 4 of them, but he didn't know they had weed in them, so our band practice ended up with him picking up his bass and basically playing that slow two chords for fucking ever, and it was totally unproductive and boring and he apologized for accidentally getting high and making boring music, and we agreed that it was the second worst practice we'd had after the time he accidentally electrocuted himself with some DIY electronics thing he had rigged up.

Someone described a critically acclaimed stonerish band/record to me as "tepid Planet Drum cosplay."

I thought, yep, that pretty much nails it.

hahaha I just think of it as drone bros with different pedals and bigger amps

drone bros with different pedals and bigger amps

This needs to be a band name.

Yeah I am very much on board with thinking that stuff kinda sucks or is underwhelming at best. Similarly its close cousin — bands that sound like Shitty Black Sabbath.

Controversial opinion...there is some crit acclaimed stoner music that's like a dude playing two chords really slowly for 14 minutes and that kind of stoner music is boring af

I have been to way too many shows with stuff like this, also it crosses over w/psych and noise scenes ... and it is indeed boring af

― sarahell, Thursday, January 17, 2019 2:48 PM (thirteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

You know what must really suck... being the bassist in some post-Spacemen 3 / Loop noise/psych band, where the guitarist gets to play with all his/her pedals and make all sorts of improv noise for most of those 14 min, drummer gets to generally experiment a little while keeping the beat- but the bassist? You better not deviate from that simple little riff you've been playing the entire time! Don't you dare!

I feel like there are different types of SBS (Shitty Black Sabbath) bands -- like there are the ones that mimic the slow dirgey stuff and then there are the ones that do veritable covers of Paranoid

xp Evan - being the drummer sucks too actually -- I've sat in on sets like that, also boring. But yeah, bassist always has to make the bigger sacrifice - tru

I would feel really guilty being the guitarist in that scenario; having all the fun, making them keep going and going until I decide I'm finally done screwing around...

Listened to The Wall adter the discussion and was startled by how well it connected: meticulous sonics, hysterical squawking, raging bitterness, and all.

xp. hey, the bassist gets to do little variations on that bass thing he's doing over and over every so often

I would think if you're baked, it's probably kinda fun to play the same bassline for 45 minutes. Like, you get into a trance or something. Also, for every hundred shitty bands who utilize this model, there's Les Rallizes Denudes.

But yeah, file most of this stuff under "music that's more fun to perform than to listen to"

"Peace and Love" is as good as any album the Pogues ever released.

good extra finger on the cover too

I'll rep for waiting for Herb

lol that was my first Pogues and I was mondo confused cos it sounded nothing like people told me they sounded like. didn't realize it wasn't one of the "classic" Pogues albs until later

(xxx's & p's) The connection btw. pot and slow/bassy music is overstated, at least in my experience (and, I guess, "controversial opinion"). That kind of thing never sounded particularly good to me when stoned. In fact, pot would bring treble to the foreground for me -- guitar lines, organ, etc. would crystallize and glow, and the rest of the music would fade a few notches into the background.

going upthread I love stoner and its offshoots, doom, funeral doom, etc, and a lot of droney stuff, but there's some of it where I want to tap the guy next to me and ask "this is a put on, right?"

I'll rep for waiting for Herb

― calumy (rip van wanko), Thursday, January 17, 2019 5:33 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

+2. "Once Upon A Time" is a perfect pop tune, and "Tuesday Morning" is great too

The comment line is that Shane wrote all the good songs and the other guys were just okay and stepped in as needed, but Peace and Love & beyond showed they were great songwriters too.

I would feel really guilty being the guitarist in that scenario; having all the fun, making them keep going and going until I decide I'm finally done screwing around...

You can't be a guitarist, guitarists do not suffer from guilt.

proto-arcade fire nothing, he copped that from john lennon

Ha

James Blake albums are like a party that you don't want to go to but you go anyway and then you have a good time despite yourself but you still hate the fact that you're there

Agreed, except for the part about having a good time.

You can't be a guitarist, guitarists do not suffer from guilt.

― Never Turn Your Back On Virginia Woolf (Tom D.), Thursday, January 17, 2019 7:34 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I am a guiltarist

JETHRO TULL > PINK FLOYD

Not that controversial but I felt like sharing anyways

A lot of 90s folk is better than a lot of 60s folk

A lot of 90s folk is better than a lot of 60s folk

― Gunther Gleiben (Ye Mad Puffin)

i am intrigued by your thesis and would be interested in examples (i haven't heard much 90s folk!)