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RE: Post-Waters Floyd, I saw parts of the video for "High Hopes" last week (in the context of a Beavis and Butthead episode, lol) and the inanely "trippy" visuals actually made me angry

There's good stuff from every era before Waters left

Syd's corny

a formidable songwriter nonetheless

corny is good. but also, a division bell fan calling syd corny, hm

Floyd in general is corny, but also awesome

Obscured by Corn
A Kernelful of Secrets
The Final Corn
Cornftably Numb
Any Kernel You Like

David Gilmour's songs on The Wall > "Echoes" > Dark Side Of The Moon with "Money" ignored > flashes of brilliance here and there from all eras >>> albums that are considered "classics" but are completely worthless if you pay attention to Roger Waters' peak-terrible lyrics (Wish You Were Here, Animals, all his parts on The Wall)

I really do think the more Gilmour-y Wall songs are this band's finest moments ("Comfortably Numb", "Hey You", "Run Like Hell", "Goodbye Blue Sky"; hard pass on that "I need a dirty woman" song though)

Since we're on FLOYD RULES... BUT... "Echoes" is a nice 3-4 minute psychedelic pop/rock song pointlessly and redundantly padded out to 20-odd minutes.

Actually controversial take: I find both Gilmour and Waters fairly unengaging as vocalists, to the point that I often struggle to identify which one of them is singing by ear, and prefer the vocalists from just about every other major prog band.

Wish You Were Ear
Piper at the Gates of Corn
Shine on you Maize-y Diamond

Miranda Lambert is the best American singer-songwriter currently having hits and played on the radio.

I find both Gilmour and Waters fairly unengaging as vocalists, to the point that I often struggle to identify which one of them is singing by ear

Waters has the worse voice of the two, particularly when he tries to belt it out. The guy from the Arcade Fire has a similar "quality" to his voice when he tries to do the same. Rick Wright was the best singer in the band.

You are all grebt and I value everyone's contributions. But I will go to my grave thinking that "Cornftably Numb" probably represents the pinnacle of my ilx career. In fact I may just stop posting now.

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Nah, j.k.

MatthewK's "Wish You Were Ear" is very good btw

shit why didn't I do Popper at the Gates of Corn, hindsight is 20/20

an album with lots of great vocal hominy

should be The Final Cob

even better: The Final Shuck

A Saucerful of Niblets

I always think of The Wall as an album for moody teenagers. I keep having to remind myself that it was mostly written by a man who was 36 when it was released.

shoulda called it Regretful Expectorations

A Saucerful of Cheese Grits

Astronomy Hominy

I'll stop now

Wish You Wear Heels

"I always think of The Wall as an album for moody teenagers. I keep having to remind myself that it was mostly written by a man who was 36 when it was released."

Why would you keep reminding yourself of that?

Isn't he just writing from a younger person's perspective, like 30-something Salinger writing "Catcher In The Rye"?

Anyway not controversial to love or hate Pink Floyd. Sometimes people even flip-flop

http://classicalbumsundays.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/503c5_johnny-rotten-pink-floyd.jpg

"You'd have to be daft as a brush to say you didn't like Pink Floyd," - Johnny Rotten Lydon

PINK FLOYD RULES!

I Love Music.

Isn't he just writing from a younger person's perspective, like 30-something Salinger writing "Catcher In The Rye"?

― nicky lo-fi

ok, comparing roger waters to salinger is taking things a little far

on the other hand, i'm not sure why a 36-year-old rock star should be expected to show the wisdom and maturity of an adult, or why it's a particular knock against him that he's not "mature". this is one of his great strengths as a lyricist. david gilmour "matured" and his lyrics are boring as hell.

The album is about a mid-life crisis, surely? Pink recalls childhood but also recalls his failed marriage and musical career.

Not having an opinion about Pink Floyd at all would be kind of controversial.

Like, I don't know that I find the pov likeable but it does strike me as the perspective of a middle-aged (or close) person. I listened to it most when I was 14 but I think that's more because the sweeping narrative and melodrama seemed most interesting then (or maybe just because I had fewer albums and it was new to me), not because I related to it as such. xp

arrested emotional development or mid-life crisis? maybe one leads to the other?

I think The Who's Quadrophenia (film) seems to deal with, but from the fan's point of view instead of the artist's.

But I mean, that IS the wisdom and maturity of a man in his 30s, a broken and damaged man in his 30s for sure, but certainly the concerns of an adult man.≈

The lyrics of Roger Waters are of no interest to me tbh.

"Shine On You Crazy Diamond" is cringe

I wasn't gonna get in on this but I gotta say in general I find the anodyne, affectless Floyd vocals a v positive feature rather than a bug

"Shine On You Crazy Diamond" is cringe

Yeah, those lyrics have not aged well

i'm increasingly convinced overplay shouldn't affect how you evaluate music but wish you were here is really hard to hear bc of how every song is a classic rock radio staple except "cigar" and the second "shine on"

i still love and am discovering new things about animals however

which really harbors the worst vibes

Maybe I'll relisten to all of Pink Floyd this week. It's been like a decade since I heard most of these albums.

“Crazy Diamond” is good!

I could give a “toss” about the lyrics on Pink Floyd songs, I’ve just generally always enjoyed their sound.

I’ve also always had a bit of trouble figuring out which Pink Floyd dude is singing but I find the vocals always to be good and sometimes great.

boring personal anecdote

in the fall of '89, me and a group of friends, all of us 8th graders, travelled from Wichita, KS to OKC to catch R.E.M. on their Green tour. On the way back, up I-35 in the wee hours, once everyone had talked themselves out and were drifting off, our chaperones put "The Delicate Sound of Thunder" in the CD player of the van. I was only passingly familiar with and of the songs, but the #mood was just overwhelming, and it remains one of the most blissed-out listening experiences of my life. I asked Mrs Brown what CD this was and ponied up for it the next day.

gilmour has a smooth but limited range and waters sounds like he's actively expiring, is the main difference

xp Great story (for real)!

lol thx

for the record i like both too but the first time i heard the wall after dark side i was like "who's this hysterical asshole who can't sing"