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― Number None, Friday, 11 January 2019 08:56 (five years ago) link
most artists >>>>>>>> Frank Ocean
― boxedjoy, Friday, 11 January 2019 10:11 (five years ago) link
I posted the following already in the Abba vs. B-52's thread but as Tom D. pointed out, it belongs here:
My favourite Abba song was always this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEbZqnC2oN4
I think it is an outlier in their oeuvre. So much punch, so much drive, almost a punk song from 1973. After that it was all downhill.
― Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Friday, 11 January 2019 10:31 (five years ago) link
the riff in Ring Ring reminds me of Suicide.
― fetter, Friday, 11 January 2019 11:10 (five years ago) link
Eric Clapton peaked in Cream and everything since has been less a downhill slide than a plunge into an abyss of mediocrity. Everything good about Derek and the Dominoes is despite, not because, of him.
― Plinka Trinka Banga Tink (Eliza D.), Friday, 11 January 2019 14:05 (five years ago) link
controversial?
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 January 2019 14:25 (five years ago) link
On that note: George Harrison's entire solo career is overwhelmingly mediocre
― Paul Ponzi, Friday, 11 January 2019 14:28 (five years ago) link
Both on-topic and both wrong, but I am thrilled to see ppl taking the thread seriously
― Twas in the fleek midwinter (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 11 January 2019 14:37 (five years ago) link
I doubt anyone except Tim Ellison will disagree with Paul.
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 January 2019 14:39 (five years ago) link
I'd be surprised if there was a majority of people who don't think that Eric Clapton's best work was with Cream.
― silverfish, Friday, 11 January 2019 14:40 (five years ago) link
Old Sock is the best Clapton album
― L'assie (Euler), Friday, 11 January 2019 14:46 (five years ago) link
Genuinely controversial opinion:
Hobo Johnson is annoying, and quite likely a bad person too, but there is also something new and potentially interesting in his music, and I can totally understand people (especially teenagers) being into him.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 11 January 2019 15:10 (five years ago) link
― L'assie (Euler), Friday, January 11, 2019 8:46 AM (thirty-five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
finally someone with the guts to say what we're all thinking
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 11 January 2019 15:23 (five years ago) link
Truly, Hobo Johnson is our Bob Dylan.
― pomenitul, Friday, 11 January 2019 15:27 (five years ago) link
I heard Sting's "Love Is The Seventh Wave" at the grocery store the other day and thought it was a pretty good song.
― joygoat, Friday, 11 January 2019 17:15 (five years ago) link
what am I, chopped liver ovah heah
― Οὖτις, Friday, 11 January 2019 17:16 (five years ago) link
the Cure's "goth trilogy" albums (Seventeen Seconds, Faith and Pornography) kinda suck and are v boring, esp to what came immediately after
― Οὖτις, Friday, 11 January 2019 19:28 (five years ago) link
god, that's so wrong. perfect post for this thread though
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 11 January 2019 19:30 (five years ago) link
Shakey otm. They don't suck, but they don't move me, and the hysterics are often silly. I prefer their desolation in discrete doses ("Sinking") or in manic garb (most of The Top).
Shakey, you like most solo Harrison?
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 January 2019 19:33 (five years ago) link
wouldn't occur to me to accuse seventeen seconds or faith of hysterics, they're both v subdued records. pornography? ok
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 11 January 2019 19:36 (five years ago) link
True. SS just...vaporizes.
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 January 2019 19:36 (five years ago) link
well "most" is probably pushing it, but "overwhelmingly mediocre" is an unfair descriptor of a catalog that includes the hands-down best Beatles solo album imo, and one of my favorite albums ever. There's a smattering of great songs across the rest of the catalog all through the 70s and 80s, plus his role in the Wilburys.
xp
― Οὖτις, Friday, 11 January 2019 19:37 (five years ago) link
also "primary" is such a fucking awesome song
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 11 January 2019 19:38 (five years ago) link
I haven't listened to any of that era (outside the singles, which were clearly singles for a reason - they're the best songs on these) in a long time and was just giving them a listen this morning and their just so... blank. lots of tuneless plonking, minimalist arrangements that don't go anywhere. Smith got better once he started firing people left and right and decided to throw a few pop songs onto every release.
― Οὖτις, Friday, 11 January 2019 19:39 (five years ago) link
Living in a Material World is mostly terrific, and I may be tempted to call it a near-great, weird album; the self-production shows how much he learned from George Martin and Phil Spector. And, yeah, he's got a bunch of good solo tunes. He never lost his innate sense of melody or how to play an ear-catching solo; he lost his voice and an impetus.
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 January 2019 19:42 (five years ago) link
pornography is bruising, over the top, i've never liked itfaith really is kinda boring!seventeen seconds is perfect, in my top 10 all time
― rip van wanko, Friday, 11 January 2019 19:47 (five years ago) link
Disintegration is easily the worst album to have ever gained "classic" status
― flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 11 January 2019 19:54 (five years ago) link
Saying George Harrison's solo career wasn't up much is hardly controversial, I'd say it was the prevalent opinion until soppy Beatles nostalgia started kicking in - in the 90s? That's in the UK, soppy Beatles nostalgia has never gone out of fashion in the US, afaict.
― Never Turn Your Back On Virginia Woolf (Tom D.), Friday, 11 January 2019 19:58 (five years ago) link
― flamboyant goon tie included,
Won't say The Worst but I don't understand this album, and, boy, is it fucking long.
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 January 2019 20:00 (five years ago) link
the back half of Disintegration is def a slog, but the first half is p towering, it does feel like the apex of platonic Cure-ness
― Οὖτις, Friday, 11 January 2019 20:10 (five years ago) link
or Platonic ideal
whatever, you know what I mean
prefer the single remixes on Galore; "Plainsong" is essential, yeah.
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 January 2019 20:11 (five years ago) link
always held this one close:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ce2grHLTGQA
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 January 2019 20:13 (five years ago) link
"Fascination Street" "Prayers for Rain" "The Same Deep Water as You" "Disintegration" "Homesick""Untitled"
if you consider this a slog it's safe to say the cure is not your band imo
― rip van wanko, Friday, 11 January 2019 20:16 (five years ago) link
― Οὖτις, Friday, January 11, 2019 3:10 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
but Untitled...
― harvey wall/barrier (voodoo chili), Friday, 11 January 2019 20:17 (five years ago) link
Fascination Street is good
― Οὖτις, Friday, 11 January 2019 20:17 (five years ago) link
My usual take, which I hold to now, is that everything from and including Seventeen Seconds until and including The Top is uniformly godly, and everything after that is patchy (but still occasionally brilliant)
The received wisdom of Disintegration being their best album is absolute madness to me but I guess it came at the right time or whatever, I wasn't there (OK I was 1)
― imago, Friday, 11 January 2019 20:29 (five years ago) link
i first heard disintegration when i was 14, i have no objective opinions about it
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 11 January 2019 20:30 (five years ago) link
tbf I was about 15 or 16 and mostly loved it but
― imago, Friday, 11 January 2019 20:31 (five years ago) link
...well, but I'd been into the earlier stuff since I was about 8, lol
― imago, Friday, 11 January 2019 20:33 (five years ago) link
For me, it's not just that it's long, it's long from moment to moment, it just feels like everything is an extended outro and there is far too much sonic information at all times in a way that is so dense that it becomes featureless. The mood is not created for me. The sensation I feel when listening to Disintegration (especially "Plainsong" and the beginning of "Pictures Of You") is similar to the feeling I had when I put on the Live disc of To Venus And Back and the ending of "The Waitress" is stretched and stretched and stretched and I'm looking at my watch and wondering when it will end.
― flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 11 January 2019 20:35 (five years ago) link
i was a teenager when Disintegration came out, and I am pretty sure I bought the cassette for full retail price, and I had just gotten my first walkman w/headphones as a present, which was the perfect mode of listening to that album -- probably if I were to listen to it right now, it would be like a totally different piece of music idk
― sarahell, Friday, 11 January 2019 20:37 (five years ago) link
― rip van wanko,
I like one song on that list and much of their catalog from 1980 through 1986, including B-sides.
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 January 2019 20:38 (five years ago) link
I bought Disintegration, my first Cure album without hearing a note of their earlier work, when I was fourteen and thought, "Why is this a fucking slog that goes on and on and on?"
Then I bought The Head on the Door and it made sense.
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 January 2019 20:39 (five years ago) link
i mean i didn't really know how to process "the same deep water as you" at the time either. the album grew with me
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 11 January 2019 20:44 (five years ago) link
Yeah I really love The Head On The Door and their singles both early and late
― flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 11 January 2019 20:45 (five years ago) link
i don't even largely disagree w "slog" but "extended outro" is a good way of stating the appeal of, like, the expanding latticework of the title track, e.g.
― lowercase (eric), Friday, 11 January 2019 20:47 (five years ago) link
yeah that seems to nail exactly what i like about it
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 11 January 2019 20:50 (five years ago) link
i was high on cold medicine a lot at the time. it was kinda perfect for that
― sarahell, Friday, 11 January 2019 20:50 (five years ago) link
I don't mind the song lengths on Disintegration but it really isn't Smith's best songwriting at all imo - if anything, the lengths and builds are what make many of the songs interesting i.e. Brad/eric otm
― imago, Friday, 11 January 2019 20:53 (five years ago) link