ILX Metal n' Heavy Rock Poll 2018: NOMINATIONS thread - open till Jan. 19th, 2019!

which would you recommend to listen to first?

I’d say start at the top.

The Pantheist album is a return to funeral doom. Old fans will be pleased but I loved their last album.

is that you pfunkboy? Good to see you back round these parts if so!

About a week ago, imago asked me privately who I thought the "Comet Control of 2018" was. After taking probably way too much time to ponder this question I realized the answer was obviously Yawning Man:

https://yawningman.bandcamp.com/album/the-revolt-against-tired-noises

I think there were a couple things that threw me off the trail, first being that this album is almost completely instrumental. The second was that I wasn't entirely sure whether this was all new material or an archived release:. "Catamaran" was covered by Kyuss and put on their last (& I'm best) album in 1995! But lately I've learned that the rest of these songs are all new, and they just finally got around to putting Catamaran--a song that's been with them since the beginning--on a studio album.

Notwithstanding, this album is wonderful, as Yawning Man conjure up ethereal arabesques from their distortion pedals. Total Aurora Borealis-grade sludge.

they're no fatso jetson

oh didn't see this! will check out now

Fuck it

The Oscillation - Wasted Space

Hi Neil, only back temporarily to help out George. Missed you since you quit fb.

Just found out two guys from Flourishing (discordant death metal) formed a new band called Aeviterne along the same lines so

Aeviterne - Sireless

http://aeviterne.bandcamp.com/album/sireless

Earthling Society - MO-The Demon
Alameda 4 - Czarna Woda

Eosphoros - Eosphoros
Inexorum - Lore of the Lakes
Scaphe - Factory Gleam
Wild Hunt - Afrterdream of the Reveller
Zealotry - At the Nexus of Stillborn Worlds

sorry that last one should be
Zealotry - At the Nexus of All Stillborn Worlds

every single one

Can't leave any out now you'll hurt their feelings

Siege of Power - Warning Blast
Deicide - Overtures of Blasphemy
Aborted - TerrorVision
Necronomidol - Voidhymn
Cognitive - Matricide
Terrorizer - Caustic Attack
The End - Svårmod Och Vemod Är Värdesinnen
Revenge - Deceiver​.​Diseased​.​Miasmic
Lovebites - Clockwork Immortality

Anaal Nathrakh - A New Kind of Horror
Cosmic Autumn - Cosmic Autumn
Finnr's Cane - Elegy
RÛR - RÛR
Sárr - Ávitun

Bongripper - Terminal

Really enjoying the Eosphoros.

How many votes will we get btw? I'm aiming for a ballot of 50.

min 1 max 50 or anything inbetween is the usual

I agree

Sounds good.

is that everything nommed then?

Give it until the morning! I've assumed you've all nominated everything but there's usually something that slipped the net

Divide and Dissolve - Abomination

I'll throw in some last minute adds.

I love Triple B. They've been putting out the best dumb hardcore I've heard in years.
https://bbbrecords.bandcamp.com/

The Mindforce album might have been my favorite Triple B record from 2018. Their guitarist sadly had a bad accident a couple weeks ago. The band are on indefinite hiatus and they started a gofundme for his hospital bills. :(

Mindforce - Excalibur
Three Knee Deep - Wrong World
Candy - Good To Feel
Criminal Instinct - Sweet Dreams

tt has just awoken from her drunken stupor and is quickly informing me of her last-second additions (if there are any), give me ten minutes haha

Weedpecker - III
Orphaned Land - Unsung Prophets And Dead Messiahs
Descubriendo a Mr Mime - F
Djinn and Miskatonic - Even Gods Must Die
Storm {O} - Ere
Agrimonia - Awaken
Rolo Tomassi - Time Will Die And Love Will Bury It
Mammoth Weed Wizard Bastard / Slomatics - Totems
Windhand / Satan's Satyrs - Split
Erdve - Vaitojimas
Gost - Possessor
Sectioned - Annihilated
Ivar Bjørnson & Einar Selvik - Hugsjá
Thou - The House Primordial
Drawn And Quartered - The One Who Lurks
The Night Flight Orchestra - Sometimes The World Ain't Enough (I think she's still drunk tbh)
The Final Age - The Final Age
Anthroprophh - Omegaville
Thou - Rhea Sylvia
Underoath - Erase Me
Ostraca - Enemy
Green Lung - Free The Witch
Shylmagoghnar - Transience
Thumpermonkey - Make Me Young, Etc
Runemagick - Evoked From Abysmal Sleep
envy - Alnair In August
Azusa - Heavy Yoke
Remote Viewing - Blood Loss

More to come!

I always say to her "they'll have nominated everything" and she says "no way have they done so" and she is always right

Q'uq'umatz - Kukulkan
Ling Tosite Sigure - #5
złota jesień - W tobie nie jestem soba
The Ex - 27 Passports
Star Period Star - Daylight Spending Time
Protoplasma - -
Magim - Ignis
Koenjihyakkei - Dhorimviskha
Blosse - Era Noire
Machine Girl - The Ugly Art
Cadaveric Fumes - Heirs Of Hideous Secrecies
Svartidauði - Revelations Of The Red Sword

Ivar Bjørnson & Einar Selvik - Hugsjá

Excellent album but obligatory NØT TRVE METÅL.

It is a homeopathic metal dilution

I do wonder what the most not-metal thing we nominated is. possibly Thumpermonkey except the opening track is nigh-on the heaviest thing I've heard all year

We!

Glad somebody else heard Magim, love that shit.

Musically speaking, I very much enjoyed that Nécropole album but I won't be listening to it again. Describing Jews as malicious 'vipers' and 'cosmic enemies' then outright stating that 'the Jewish "race"' (I'm quoting the quotation marks, which totally sanitize the sentiment, amirite?) 'must die' is a kind of pubescent edginess that induces more eye rolling than is anatomically bearable on my part.

Yikes, uh I think that goes beyond edginess

Well it's mixed with pseudo-profound terms scavenged in online thesauruses such as 'eschatology' and 'oblation', so I assume it's all part of a neo-Maurrassian fantasy according to which they, the unsung, unacknowledged protagonists of recent French History, must transgress contemporary ethics in order to live up to their solitary, aristocratic ideals. The more loathed and despised you are by the plebs, the closer you come to achieving Sadian transcendence or some such. Sounds pretty pubescent to me.

Can we un-nominate them please?

We'd probably have to un-nominate a great deal if we were to carefully comb through every lyric. I'm afraid this kind of hateful bullshit is statistically inevitable in a genre that prides itself on exploring the darkest recesses of the human psyche. That said, these lyrics cross the red line for me and I certainly won't be voting for Nécropole.

I'm removing Nécropole. and lj quit nominating thumpermonkey, they are not metal!

Is there a tribunal

Apparently so.

And as an addendum to my post upthread, I'd like to point out that the Divine Marquis was no antisemite.

"Hateful bullshit" isn't inevitable if you strongly vet your BM bands beforehand. Will concede that I may not be on 100% solid ground as I tend to give the benefit of the doubt to, say, folk/"pagan" bands so long as it manifests itself as nature worship or ancient folklore etc and there are no obvious signifiers of nationalistic crap. There might be stuff that slipped through the net, maybe you're right, this shit's inevitable and I'm too naive but I like to hope not.

Really though thanks for bringing up this band as I now know to avoid them. But look, you don't have to find excuses for this stuff, it's not necessary, there is no historical or philosophical context that could make lyrics like the ones you brought up acceptable.

Yeah, I don't think I was trying to 'find excuses' for this band or I wouldn't have brought up their antisemitism in the first place.

If we're gonna follow this through to the end, though, we also need to think about how we tend to give a free pass to older, canonical Norwegian BM acts: Emperor, Mayhem, Burzum, Darkthrone and Gaahl have all crossed the line at various points in their careers (in different ways and to varying degrees). And if we move past the narrow purview of BM, should we squelch Gesualdo or Wagner or Sibelius altogether? Or Pound or Céline or Dalí? Historical distance attenuates the sulfur somewhat, yet it is often deceitful. For instance, because Vikernes is older and the controversy surrounding him began so long ago, I don't think about his extramusical persona when I listen to his albums, whereas Nécropole released their debut EP in 2014, which makes them more present and palpable, as it were (not to mention the current international context means I have less patience than ever for this kind of crap). Yet Vikernes, even though he retired his Burzum moniker last year, is still very much alive, running a neopagan enclave with his 'Aryan' wife in the Limousin – his views don't appear to have shifted all that much over the years. Perhaps we should keep that in mind next time we listen to Filosofem?

Familiarity with the language makes a difference, as well. I can't in good conscience listen to Peste noire because Famine's lyrics leap out at me and make me feel like I'm at a French skinhead rally. But I can never quite catch the Norwegian racist slur (penned by Vikernes iirc) on the über-classic™ that is Transilvanian Hunger. All in all, I guess I prefer sticking to the Wagner/Heidegger line of defence: both were antisemitic pieces of shit, no doubt about it, but the former influenced Mahler and Schoenberg, whereas the latter's philosophy left an indelible mark on Arendt and Derrida (all four were Jews), which goes to show that, yes, it is possible to divorce the person from their work (assuming it's of some import), at least in part and as long as you're willing to go through all the necessary caveats, understand where it all went wrong and rework it accordingly. Nécropole's case is thankfully clear-cut but I don't like the notion that we don't need to know more about the context. Listening responsibly also consists of parsing said context (which is why I looked up the lyrics after reading a disturbing review of Solarité in a French e-zine), of trying to understand what draws a certain strand of young white men to this garbage, just like I'm also interested in why certain young men are attracted to incel culture. So it's not about contextualizing for the sake of excuses but about trying to understand where the hatred is coming from and what it means, if that makes sense.

All in all, I guess I prefer sticking to the Wagner/Heidegger line of defence: both were antisemitic pieces of shit, no doubt about it, but the former influenced Mahler and Schoenberg, whereas the latter's philosophy left an indelible mark on Arendt and Derrida (all four were Jews),

why must you leave oor neechy out of this?

Anyway the dividing lines for the poll have always been the actual lyrics. If pointed out (usually i cant make any out tbh)

I'm pretty sure jjj banned Peste Noire one year despite the fact he enjoyed the actual music.

To be clear on this, can we get nominations removed for anti-christianity or disproportionate violence in the lyrics?