Kate Bush

ums otm, when this originally came up someone on ilx said something funny like “how surprising that a prog rock musician who lives in an actual castle might be a bit Tory”

Was her upbringing that privileged? She was born in Bexleyheath, grew up near Welling, neither of which are exactly 'posh', and she went to a grammar school.

everyone in Britain is privileged and muddled, you can't judge us

she's probably no posher than, say, Ed Sheeran

How is poshness measured? Grams?

Grauns

I think we have a tendency to overestimate the extent to which other people, particularly famous people, actually think about politics and in particular I don't trust pop stars to make much sense when talking about it. Obvious glaring contradictions in their public pronouncements and worldview are part of that.

She was also raised Catholic which wasn't exactly a gateway drug to Tory support in the 70s and 80s.

(And Irish Catholic at that)

yeah but her English dad was a doctor and she grew up in farmhouse. I don't think he'd have been getting the accordion out after a skinful and singing Wrap The Green Flag Around Me and then falling asleep in a puddle of his own piss! Posh is relative of course and she might be considered common as muck by some standards.

I don't think he'd have been getting the accordion out after a skinful and singing Wrap The Green Flag Around Me and then falling asleep in a puddle of his own piss!

coffee through the nose lols at this

I won’t be commenting further on this, but feel it’s become so pervasive that I felt I needed to clarify this matter once and for all: my father did get the accordion out after a skinful and sing Wrap The Green Flag Around Me then fell asleep in a puddle of his own piss.

:D

poor muddled kate, a prisoner to her castle, early success, and irish catholic mother, she must find it a terrible struggle to think clearly about anything at all

That'll be the concept for her next performance run. "The Ninth Wave (of a Piss Puddle)"

as i consider conservatism to be a psychosocial derangement which becomes increasingly common with age (and wealth) i didn't find it hard to conclude that kate bush was probably a tory (as i'm not british, i don't look at things through the lens of class and/or essential nature)

i also don't find it hard to conclude that she's not, on the grounds that she's said she's not

'only the british are essentialists', v good

omg calzino that post killed me

"I've enough dealing with still listening to and enjoying Death in June and a boatload of black metal bands and other pricks. I didn't need KB added to the mix,"

dude listening to and supporting Death in June is fucking WAY WORSE than anything KB may have said/thought.

You don't say. I said that in the context of my personal (hypocritical) red line. The attempted humor of that line clearly got lost.

Yeah it definitely did. I thought u were saying kate bush was a varg type character which seemed ludicrous.

I like to think Kate Bush is reading this thread and it's made the whole thing worthwhile for her.

Um, not cool to dox me

I wrote about how the price of gay acceptance in Kate's work is heterosexual pleasure: https://katebushsongs.wordpress.com/2019/01/09/kashka-from-baghdad/

Oh. Followup: I also wrote about The Kick Inside. Next up is Wuthering Heights. https://katebushsongs.wordpress.com/2019/01/14/the-kick-inside/

https://pitchfork.com/news/kate-bush-announces-rarities-album-shares-rocket-man-cover-video-watch/?fbclid=IwAR234VxDYdjgIVRshsUkT3O6LcNUzb8Ud4G_K9hYwM_Gy501EGAIbYDBVYc

those are some short CDs!

That's pretty nice, we can snag the rarities if we don't want to shell out again for all the remastered albums from the box set... why does she hate Ken so much though?

why does she hate Ken so much though?

Maybe just changed her mind about him over time?

Maybe she'll include it on her upcoming disc of tracks she recorded for Fruitopia commercials

why does she hate Ken so much though?

if you mean "why isn't 'Ken' on her rarities sets," the rights are probably tangled up between Richardson and the BBC and Entertainment One and who knows who else

if you mean that she doesn't love Ken anymore, perhaps the reasons that he has been in the news the last 900,023 times are related.

her song about Boris Johnson isn't nearly as good

Wild Man?

If you like Room for the Life... well, sorry. https://katebushsongs.wordpress.com/2019/02/22/room-for-the-life/

Them Heavy People helped me in a soft spot. https://katebushsongs.wordpress.com/2019/02/28/them-heavy-people/ & http://www.eruditorumpress.com/blog/them-heavy-people/

Realized I haven't updated here in a while, so... https://katebushsongs.wordpress.com/2019/05/10/symphony-in-blue/ & http://www.eruditorumpress.com/blog/symphony-in-blue/

The Remastered CD Box Set Part 2 has dropped to $62 on Amazon US, that's tempting...

On "Wow." http://www.eruditorumpress.com/blog/wow/ and also at https://katebushsongs.wordpress.com/2019/06/07/wow/

(With apologies to anyone who's irritated by all the linking) Here's the Tour of Life. https://katebushsongs.wordpress.com/2019/06/28/the-tour-of-life/

Onto Never for Ever, starting w/ Egypt katebushsongs.wordpress.com/2019/07/05/egypt/ (somebody else talk about Kate. I feel like I'm spamming the thread.)

Remasters of Lionheart, Never for Ever, The Red Shoes, Aerial, and 50 Words for Snow are finally available on Spotify now (not sure about other streaming services). In some cases they replaced the originals, in others they're doubled.

No idea if The Kick Inside, The Dreaming, Hounds of Love, and The Sensual World will soon join them.

I've been listening to the re-done Red Shoes, I think I like it a bit more than the original. Or maybe I'm just coming around to the album regardless of mastering. The Aerial with whatshisname removed and replaced with someone else actually sounds worse to my ears.

whatshisname removed and replaced with someone else

Wait what?

Rolf Harris has a few voiceovers on the original Aerial but he turned out to be a pedophile so they removed his bits and replaced them with (I think) her son doing some narration instead. But it seems like the entire mix is slightly different to me... that could be my imagination though.

They replaced Rolf Harris with Kate's son live vocals from Before the Dawn (he played the part of The Painter in the performance). So it's now a studio/live mash-up.

i like bertie's voice more than Harris'.

I've been listening to the re-done Red Shoes, I think I like it a bit more than the original. Or maybe I'm just coming around to the album regardless of mastering.

i listened to both last night and i almost prefer the director's cut version, but i think i have to replace 'lily' with the original version, something is lost in the new vox. i think i also prefer the orig 'rubberband girl.' but overall the sequencing and the addition/subtraction of tracks is an improvement.

He's on The Dreaming as well, isn't he?

yeah but just playing digideroo; could be anyone.

"i listened to both last night and i almost prefer the director's cut version, but i think i have to replace 'lily' with the original version, something is lost in the new vox. i think i also prefer the orig 'rubberband girl.' but overall the sequencing and the addition/subtraction of tracks is an improvement."

confused by this. You mean the versions of the songs on Director's Cut, or the version of Red Shoes that was released along with DC? Because the only difference there is that it was remastered. the versions on actual Director's Cut: that doesn't count as a new version of the album to me.

i thought of it as a reconfiguring of the red shoes since that's the album it has the most tracks in common with, but yeah i guess there was no real reason for me to think of it that way