yes mtv.com was doing daily music news and d'oh for overlooking that in my last post. sonicnet was a way better mousetrap, and we taught mtv a lot of stuff and they taught us some stuff too, two very different worlds, and in the end we were indeed redundant because their name was on the door and they weren't all that interested in extending their brand; they liked it just where it was.
(i wound up elsewhere at mtv networks and i'm a big fan of the company in general, for reasons having little to do with that particular experiment. and i still will maintain that sonicnet/atn's late-'90s news model was influential in a number of ways. now back to your regularly scheduled pitchfork thread.)
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 03:39 (five years ago) link
I’m gonna take you the matt- y es I will, fcc - and I’m gonna figure out who you are! and I’m not gonna handle with care-as the traveling wilburys might say!
― i stan corrected (morrisp), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 04:26 (five years ago) link
(sorry for typos, I’ve had a few beerz, lol)
― i stan corrected (morrisp), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 04:34 (five years ago) link
Treeship's mom has got it going on
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 04:41 (five years ago) link
*i* might be stacey blyth, you never know.
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 04:44 (five years ago) link
xp love that crazy gal
― macropuente (map), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 04:48 (five years ago) link
7.5 ref
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 04:58 (five years ago) link
Schreiber has quit? Shit, cat.
― Position Position
new board description. please. it's only right and natural.
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 05:05 (five years ago) link
my only interaction with ryan schreiber was on twitter, when i was like 20 or something and i suggested a game changer for his company would be to randomly give an album the score of 10.1 to dispense with the toxic idea that an album could be "perfect" or that "perfection" was even a noble goal. he responded with something like "..."
anyway, rest in hell, monster
― Trϵϵship
lmfao
ikr
― jaymc, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 05:08 (five years ago) link
The reality of my childhood was that I always connected with music more than [I connected with] people.
who edited this
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 05:15 (five years ago) link
that bracket does not need to be there. that is the extent of my p4k dunking. I never wrote for or pitched to the site, but they did expose me to a significant amount of the bands and albums I still love and I still check it every day. 8.6
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 05:18 (five years ago) link
Also, it looks like sonicnet.com was trying to cover everything under the sun whereas early Pitchfork was relentlessly "underground" focused. It was the sense of a community apart from the mainstream that was a big draw.
irony of ironies here
― Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 12:46 (five years ago) link
xpost Ian, I don't think we were ever the target audience for pitchfork. I never read it unless a specific reason came up and I am honestly surprised they are still around.
― Yerac, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 15:00 (five years ago) link
I would assume that bracket is there so the sentence doesn't get parsed as "I always connected with music more than other people did."
― theorizing your yells (katherine), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 15:03 (five years ago) link
^Yeah, I agree... I might have just put “with” in the bracket, but I see why it deemed necessary for clarity.
― i stan corrected (morrisp), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 15:17 (five years ago) link
i agree with flappy bird it's unnecessary, the meaning is apparent
― rip van wanko, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 15:32 (five years ago) link
A more elegant solution may have been to switch a few words around — “...connected more with music than people.”
― i stan corrected (morrisp), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 15:36 (five years ago) link
i don't find this to be particularly noble behavior! but i guess i am not suf's pr
Seems like a good day to tell one of my favorite @ryanpitchfork stories and one that really shows how his personal championing of artists has made such a difference over the years - back in 2003 I had just started working with an unknown Brooklyn singer-songwriter named Sufjan— Force Field PR (@forcefieldpr) January 9, 2019
― alpine static, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 19:31 (five years ago) link
oh, i guess you will have to click thru for thread/story
and people were asking why he is so bad and hated
― twitter is bad not good (||||||||), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 19:42 (five years ago) link
It’s funny to me that the Hand of God came down and changed the score from a 7.4 to an... 8.5
― i stan corrected (morrisp), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 20:31 (five years ago) link
He was thinking strategically. Had to leave room to give Illinois a 9+, then sustain a backlash long enough to ensure maximum impact of the big comeback album after Suf's mom died a decade later.
Schreiber plays indie rock 3D chess.
― alpine static, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 22:50 (five years ago) link
just the idea of a Sufjan Stevens album makes me carsick
― Rhine Jive Click Bait (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 10 January 2019 00:00 (five years ago) link
why
― alpine static, Thursday, 10 January 2019 00:23 (five years ago) link
it's just very beige and precious and consistently hits whatever the opposite of my pleasure spots are
― Rhine Jive Click Bait (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 10 January 2019 00:44 (five years ago) link
I blame pfork for its proliferation
do you think this means Schreiber has fuck you money now?
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 10 January 2019 01:11 (five years ago) link
I've heard of it. On what, fuckface?
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, January 9, 2019 8:23 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
dailymotion.com, dickwad
― flopson, Thursday, 10 January 2019 02:57 (five years ago) link
btw site is good for most old sitcoms
― flopson, Thursday, 10 January 2019 02:58 (five years ago) link
wrong thread lol
― flopson, Thursday, 10 January 2019 03:06 (five years ago) link
This is an extremely murky article in (I guess?) the “allegations-of-impropriety” genre: https://pitchfork.com/news/superorganisms-mark-turner-sought-restraining-orders-against-two-women-who-spoke-out-against-him/
― i stan corrected (morrisp), Thursday, 10 January 2019 04:26 (five years ago) link
Not feelin’ the obligatory Chainsmokers slam
― i stan corrected (morrisp), Thursday, 10 January 2019 04:36 (five years ago) link
No one expected Taggart and Pall to crack open a copy of bell hooks’ The Will to Change: Men, Masculinity, and Love between albums, but the Chainsmokers’ determination to double down on their reputation for toxic masculinity is impressively disturbing.
― i stan corrected (morrisp), Thursday, 10 January 2019 04:38 (five years ago) link
so have they reduced the number of daily reviews to two?
― groovemaaan, Thursday, 10 January 2019 16:03 (five years ago) link
Sure seems that way
― enochroot, Thursday, 10 January 2019 16:05 (five years ago) link
they didn't get back to the usual 4 per day until Jan. 18 last year
― We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Thursday, 10 January 2019 16:07 (five years ago) link
this is the slow season for album releases
― We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Thursday, 10 January 2019 16:08 (five years ago) link
yeah this week's new release list is pretty slim pickings
https://www.pauseandplay.com/new-releases-jan-11-2019/https://www.metacritic.com/browse/albums/release-date/coming-soon/datehttps://www.albumoftheyear.org/upcoming/
― maura, Thursday, 10 January 2019 16:59 (five years ago) link
Yeah, they've done this for at least a couple of years now. They used to not post any reviews for 3-4 weeks in December/January. Also they made a bigger deal of their year-end lists (big banner on the main page, I think they even used to roll them out 10 or 20 albums/songs at a time, though I may be wrong about that)
― intheblanks, Thursday, 10 January 2019 17:18 (five years ago) link
no you're right, it used to be a week long rollout
― flappy bird, Thursday, 10 January 2019 17:21 (five years ago) link
which, to go back to earlier in this thread, is another part of what made pitchfork outlast their peers imo: the whole "canon-building as event" thing, in the form of long ranked lists of mostly indie rockers
― intheblanks, Thursday, 10 January 2019 17:27 (five years ago) link
Well, the "new tracks" page seems to be finished. Nothing at all since December 4 and it's now January 10.
Shame, that page introduced me to some absolutely incredible music.
― does it look like i'm here (jon123), Thursday, 10 January 2019 17:38 (five years ago) link
https://oct.co/essays/having-beer-with-how-dress-well-tom-krell
Already resisted posting this once but I just realized they spelled it “Nihlism”
― You can't see it but I had an epiphany (Champiness), Saturday, 12 January 2019 17:39 (five years ago) link
twitter is starting to realize that october sucks, i guess
just been shown how Pitchfork makes its money now, which is selling its position as An Hip Millenial Influencer to push things like an Anheuser InBev radicalization engine dressed as a pinteresting cool magazine called "October", and its the saddest fucking thing i've ever seen pic.twitter.com/0UEhrOt9YB— ཊལབསརངཧ (@David_Rudnick) January 11, 2019
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 12 January 2019 17:49 (five years ago) link
I guess this is more "I'm dumb, pt. 4532687" but I can't be the only person who did a double-take at the current top headline
― resident hack (Simon H.), Monday, 14 January 2019 19:06 (five years ago) link
If you’re talking about this:https://pitchfork.com/features/profile/earl-sweatshirt-does-not-exist/Then yeah the few seconds it takes to look down and see the “Interview” tag are confusing ones
― You can't see it but I had an epiphany (Champiness), Monday, 14 January 2019 21:31 (five years ago) link
grimes dies in tragic car accident:the interview
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 15 January 2019 00:11 (five years ago) link
lol
― You can't see it but I had an epiphany (Champiness), Tuesday, 15 January 2019 00:12 (five years ago) link
too soon ;_;
― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 15 January 2019 00:12 (five years ago) link