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The joy division opinions upthread are very weird to me.

Trϵϵship, Monday, 7 January 2019 03:15 (five years ago) link

mountain goats is emo they might be giants

but mountain goats is less emo than they might be giants!

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 7 January 2019 03:36 (five years ago) link

kraftwerk is corny and unenjoyable imo. there are a million other german bands/artists from the 70s that i'd rather listen to

marcos, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 16:10 (five years ago) link

ok tour de france is cool but imo the 70s stuff for which they are very famous is not good

marcos, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 16:13 (five years ago) link

I agree tbh, at their best they're the best tho

My bf, over my shoulder, "ooh look at you having an opinion. Getting the opinion machine all revved up"

flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 16:17 (five years ago) link

Die Meinung Maschine

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 16:20 (five years ago) link

kraftwerk is corny and unenjoyable imo

computer world is corny and enjoyable

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 16:48 (five years ago) link

yeah, I thought "corny" was their most charming attribute.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 17:04 (five years ago) link

otm!

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 17:05 (five years ago) link

they're also rather sweet

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 17:05 (five years ago) link

Computer World is my favouritest of their records tbh

flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 18:41 (five years ago) link

same

brimstead, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 19:49 (five years ago) link

Yep

Gavin, Leeds, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 20:52 (five years ago) link

I remember that I found Autobahn rather ridiculous when it came out. It sounded very much like a flash in the pan. And I would have never guessed that this rather slight piece of music would have been the future. These days besides the nostalgy I quite like the soothing and trance-inducing effect it has when I listen to it. But you are right the tune is the epitome of corny. I have still to listen to it when I drive on the Autobahn which used to bore me a lot but which I almost love now. But I even prefer French and American highways as they are even more monotonous as the speed differences between the cars are almost nil.

Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 21:48 (five years ago) link

I remember that I found Autobahn rather ridiculous when it came out. It sounded very much like a flash in the pan. And I would have never guessed that this rather slight piece of music would have been the future.

lol and this is exactly how i felt reading about this record as a pivotal moment in electronic music and then buying it, putting it on and hearing this dinky little tune stretched out to 23 minutes

marcos, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 21:57 (five years ago) link

"Autobahn" is pretty much classic-era Kraftwerk's worst song/album, though. Radio-Activity and The Man-Machine and Trans-Europe Express are all much, much better.

grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 22:00 (five years ago) link

Kraftwerk were kinda shit and the influence of dub on electronic music gets overlooked cause of Eurocentricity

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 22:00 (five years ago) link

Radio-Activity is a fairly engaging listen as a whole, but the only pre-Computer World song that I have a need for in my life is "The Robots"

flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 22:07 (five years ago) link

Y'all need the Ralf + Florian album.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 22:09 (five years ago) link

Y'all need the Ralf + Florian album.

Nah, fuck that hippie bullshit.

grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 22:10 (five years ago) link

This thread has taken a most unfortunate turn

Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 22:10 (five years ago) link

hippie bullshit is....great

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 22:12 (five years ago) link

this is the best hippie bullshit you'll ever hear

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToiLyjxABM0

tylerw, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 22:16 (five years ago) link

hippie bullshit is....great

It can be. I love Can. But that's not what I come to Kraftwerk for, and it's not where their talents lay.

grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 22:17 (five years ago) link

If it were hippie bullshit, I wouldn't have liked it.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 22:20 (five years ago) link

Can, whom I like a lot, tend to be baggier.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 22:20 (five years ago) link

Faust is the (often very good!) hippie bullsh*t

i stan corrected (morrisp), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 22:27 (five years ago) link

hippie bullshit is....great

It can be. I love Can. But that's not what I come to Kraftwerk for, and it's not where their talents lay


I am exactly the opposite. I find Kraftwerk before they got into electronics much more interesting. In that clip upthread they consist of two thirds of the later Neu! and they are brilliant. When Hütter came back the band was more or less lost for me. I only discovered the early Kraftwerk much later.

Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 22:32 (five years ago) link

I like efficient German engineering Kraftwork too! They were just generally really great

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 22:35 (five years ago) link

First one I heard was Computer World probably around 2004 and to me it was laughably dinky and slight

next year I'd purchased Minimum-Maximum and suddenly everything about the band made sense

frogbs, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 22:44 (five years ago) link

"tin machine" is david bowie's finest rock song

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 23:48 (five years ago) link

It's not a bad song! My Bowie controp is that Reeves was his finest guitarist-for-hire

flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 10 January 2019 00:20 (five years ago) link

ok these are two actual controversial opinions

oof

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 10 January 2019 00:22 (five years ago) link

amon duul ii is underrated hippie bullshit

errang (rushomancy), Thursday, 10 January 2019 00:36 (five years ago) link

^ truth. keith forsey (who wrote "flashdance (what a feeling)" and "don't you (forget about me)") drummed for them

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 10 January 2019 00:54 (five years ago) link

Underrated by who?

Never Turn Your Back On Virginia Woolf (Tom D.), Thursday, 10 January 2019 01:38 (five years ago) link

R. Kelly's music was always shit, regardless of his status as a sexual predator.

Alex in NYC, Thursday, 10 January 2019 22:16 (five years ago) link

hi, Alex!

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 January 2019 22:18 (five years ago) link

this must be some kind of killing joke

Rhine Jive Click Bait (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 10 January 2019 22:58 (five years ago) link

syd > frank ocean

maura, Friday, 11 January 2019 04:57 (five years ago) link

I agree w that actually

resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 11 January 2019 04:58 (five years ago) link

Same

Number None, Friday, 11 January 2019 08:56 (five years ago) link

most artists >>>>>>>> Frank Ocean

boxedjoy, Friday, 11 January 2019 10:11 (five years ago) link

I posted the following already in the Abba vs. B-52's thread but as Tom D. pointed out, it belongs here:

My favourite Abba song was always this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEbZqnC2oN4

I think it is an outlier in their oeuvre. So much punch, so much drive, almost a punk song from 1973. After that it was all downhill.

Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Friday, 11 January 2019 10:31 (five years ago) link

the riff in Ring Ring reminds me of Suicide.

fetter, Friday, 11 January 2019 11:10 (five years ago) link

Eric Clapton peaked in Cream and everything since has been less a downhill slide than a plunge into an abyss of mediocrity. Everything good about Derek and the Dominoes is despite, not because, of him.

Plinka Trinka Banga Tink (Eliza D.), Friday, 11 January 2019 14:05 (five years ago) link

controversial?

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 January 2019 14:25 (five years ago) link

On that note: George Harrison's entire solo career is overwhelmingly mediocre

Paul Ponzi, Friday, 11 January 2019 14:28 (five years ago) link

Both on-topic and both wrong, but I am thrilled to see ppl taking the thread seriously

Twas in the fleek midwinter (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 11 January 2019 14:37 (five years ago) link


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