POLL: "Never Tear Us Apart" (INXS) vs. "Everybody Hurts" (R.E.M.)

Poll: "Everybody Hurts" video vs. Van Halen "Right Now" video.

^^^ key questions of, well, hm, "our time" doesn't seem quite right

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Maybe P Gabriel's "Don't Give Up" vs. "Everybody Hurts" would've been more of a competition.

I love NTUA and hate EH. I hated Everybody Hurts when I was a wallowing teenager, which I was when it came out and I still hate it now. Dunno just grates on me, always has.

I'm also the weirdo whose favorite song on the album is Ignoreland, so.

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I also like Ignoreland and not sure why it's so bad and hated but I don't really like that album much at all so

Ignoreland is a needed respite/counterpoint in AFTP

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fwiw songs I like off AFTP:

Drive
Ignoreland

songs I think are OK

The Sidewinder Sleeps Tonite
Man On The Moon
Monty Got A Raw Deal

songs I don't like

everything else

I'm conflicted about 'Drive' because it lied to me. The rest of the album just isn't as good.

I've said this before, but I started reposting on ilx again because I was so confused about the glowing reviews/remembrances about ATFP on its anniversary. That album is so meh bleh. I was trying make sense of this stupid reality I was living in.

ts: ignoreland vs electioneering

anyway, nightswimming is grebt, man on the moon and find the river are good, sidewinder and drive are okay, the rest are whatevs and occasionally worse

Is "Ignoreland" hated? I always liked it.

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Glad you made it to this thread, mookieproof! It owes its existence to you

Anyway, I’d place “Man on the Moon” far higher on the “never need to hear again” scale than “Everybody Hurts.”

I have recently come to like « Try not to breath » following a thread linking to an interview about how the song was built.
Basically regarding AFTP, I like the beginning and the end but the middle drags a little.

Oh, "Man on the Moon" is very skippable.

there's a really good 25-minute AFTP documentary called Unearthed on YT for anybody interested

i'm more into the mumble & kudzu REM, but still think AFTP is stone cold classic start to finish

The R.E.M. guys looked so grizzled to me in those Anton Corbijn liner-note booklet photos, but they were probably like f’in 32 years old.

This thread is beginning to bum me out. AFTP is REM’s best album, or at the very least the best of their albums that feature enunciation. I think it is one of the unassailable classics of the decade.

yes! AFTP is definitely a classic, their best album since their debut full-length imo, but their earliest "mumble & kudzu" records (Chronic Town EP, Murmur) are also classics and will always be my favorites because I heard them first

I'm going Never Tear Us Apart because of the whirl of memory it stirs up with me and Claire Eldridge at the centre of it, dancing at the swimming club disco.

I like Try Not to Breathe, Find the River and NIghtswimming. Drive is fine. Man on the Moon was overplayed and it wasn't good enough to withstand that. Plus, I hate Andy Kaufman. The rest of the album is completely meh.

Star Me Kitten gave 11-year-old-me the fear

They should've gone full on Santo and Johnny on that song. Instead it bores the shit out of me.

I've never understood the "best album" thing. I may have thought about AFTP more than any other record over the years, so perplexing is this notion. I almost sold my copy early on. Previews on radio suggested a serious decline, but I was still pretty loyal in 1992 and bought it anyway. But the endless bars of thin, nothingy guitars going around in circles really bummed me out. The string arrangements were welcome but still insufficient to make certain tracks add up to much. I eventually took to programming a 25-minute album I did kinda like if I could avoid the rest. (I may have included "Man on the Moon" once, but it hasn't proved especially durable.)

Try Not to Breathe / The Sidewinder Sleeps Tonite / New Orleans Instrumental No. 1 / Sweetness Follows / Nightswimming / Find the River

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*sad montage of frowning Buck/Berry/Mills/Stipe*

When your day is long... and the night... the night is yours alone...

Wow. Everybody Hurts pulled in a lot more than expected.

^^^

I was expecting an even more brutal stomping.

Sometimes you kick... sometimes you get kicked.

"But if I hurt you
I'd make wine from your tears"

my whole life i didn't know what he was singing there, just looked it up

I also couldn't parse those lyrix for a long time (but eventually learned them somewhere).

terrible line lol

https://66.media.tumblr.com/11c3aac1f638a12bb36635d5eba52177/tumblr_oh1vghbW3c1r4poono1_250.gif

AH TOLD YOU

(it's a great line obv in the context of this big dumb dramatic awesome song that isn't even sure what it's about)

lol

I guess I can understand people not liking AFTP that much today

I remember the fever for the album at the time though

It was buzzbin popular when it came out. It seems a lot more popular now.

Well it’s 4x platinum

I think I bought a Dig album around that time. It was like, the height of MtV alternativeness. I was obsessed with REM in jr high/hs, but gah this album sucked.

I don't remember that. I remember loving Night Swimming, Man on the Moon, Try Not to Breathe

Why is no one ITT reminiscing on their relationship w/“Kick”?

because we are gracious & REM fans seem to need the toom

*room

BUT IF YOU WANNA KNOW

My best friend brought me back a bootleg cassette of Kick from her family holiday in Bali when I was in sixth grade (or maybe seventh?). we listened to it over and over

It still sounds exactly like my memory of 1987/88

Especially “New Sensation” — THAT sounds like summer to me

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and Never Tear Us Apart reminds me of these hardboiled sweets i loved at that time...i ate a whole bag in one sitting & i had a stomachache & i must have been listening to this song bcz i always think of those sweets now whenever I hear it