https://www.popmatters.com/tv-on-the-radio-vs-the-village-voice-truly-racist-2495813736.html
So should we instead wonder if the cover was an unintentional racial swipe? Perna angrily compares the cover to recent lynching incidents. Look at it this way- if you were in cartoon on the cover of a well-known publication and someone was running you over, how would you feel about that? Most likely, you'd be pretty angry. The cover was meant to show Dylan symbolically beating TVOTR in the Pazz poll but the question then is this: was the way they depicted it appropriate? They could have had Dylan and a TVOTR member in a ring with the latter getting punched or even just some grand illustration of Dylan to show that he won. The fact that they went for a conflict cover where Dylan whups up on someone is more dramatic than just having a picture of himself alone. It's likely that ANY photo of Dylan attacking/hitting someone in the band would have brought about the same response. Also, consider it an interesting irony that if many of the younger writers/voters hadn't gravitated to the Idolator poll this year, TVOTR probably would have beaten Dylan in the Pazz poll itself and the illustration would have looked very different as such.
well now
― We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 19:19 (five years ago) link
That cover is terrible on so many levels.
― underqualified backing vocalist (morrisp), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 19:26 (five years ago) link
Rolling Stone's 20 Best Metal Albums of 2018
Normally wouldn't care but my boys Frontierer got in again!
― avoid drinking on an empty liver (fionnland), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 19:39 (five years ago) link
fuck, completely forgot about that Portal album.
― resident hack (Simon H.), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 19:40 (five years ago) link
My first reaction was to think racism but this cover is actually quite funny.
― Nabozo, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 19:44 (five years ago) link
xxxpost: But the album is called "blood on the tracks" not "blood on the ropes", which could have worked for the box analogy...
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 19:49 (five years ago) link
the album was called "Modern Times." If they wanted to reach back 30 years for a boxing reference instead there's "Hurricane."
― We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 19:53 (five years ago) link
oh yes you're right... I'm not very well versed on Dylan sorry... I assumed the album that won that year was blood on the tracks.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 19:59 (five years ago) link
im having great dissonance w the name "dan weiss"
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 20:18 (five years ago) link
How soon we forget
[village voice cover]
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 20:20 (five years ago) link
That gq intro is hilariously well timed for the recent posts about poptimism v rockism
― rob, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 20:24 (five years ago) link
hyden's argument about man of the woods is pretty interesting to me
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 12 December 2018 20:32 (five years ago) link
it goes in circles for way too long; it's a one-sentence argument (MOTW is emblematic of 2018 because Justin Timberlake release an album everyone forgot about his flannel shirts collection).
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 20:37 (five years ago) link
well whatever it's something he prob did for free for a place he doesn't work at... it's more interesting as an argument than like 95% of all EOY blurbs tho
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 12 December 2018 20:44 (five years ago) link
There is some great dissonance on the Dan Weiss album, it's true.
― Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 20:45 (five years ago) link
lmao @ steve hyden deliberately humiliating himself
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 20:49 (five years ago) link
not that that isn't his primary mode
And culture writers will write anniversary pieces that attempt to link Timberlake's "log cabins and facial hair" iconography to the rise of white nationalism during the early years of the Trump administration.
i guess this is interesting but it's more likely that no one will ever write about this album again
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 20:51 (five years ago) link
I remember when JT was supposed to ride a starring role in a Woody Allen picture and an album into a new era of ultra prominence.
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 20:54 (five years ago) link
i mean he could be wrong! he could also be right? in any case it was nice to see some space on one of these lists devoted to a line of argument about a record that isn't one of the same 25 records all websites are currently talking about
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 12 December 2018 20:55 (five years ago) link
This is a great song and cute video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baj6llvgpWA
― 5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 20:56 (five years ago) link
oh wait, i forgot about the faucet line, yeccchh
― 5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 20:57 (five years ago) link
Hyden is good sometimes but he really needs to try reading something besides Chuck Klosterman.
― evol j, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 20:58 (five years ago) link
"Breeze Off the Pond" was a legit good album track.
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 21:00 (five years ago) link
idk man. i've compained about Hyden's style but he's going on his third book and I'm gonna be unemployed and possibly done with music writing in like 20 days, so don't fix what ain't broke, I guess...
― 5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 21:00 (five years ago) link
for what it's worth I have had the "wait lmao MAN OF THE WOODS" "lol that came out this year didn't it" "man." "of the woods" conversation twice this month
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 21:48 (five years ago) link
spin's top 51 albums of the year... featuring contributions from several posters itt. please click... it's all on one page
https://www.spin.com/featured/best-albums-2018/
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 12 December 2018 22:02 (five years ago) link
oh uh i guess i wrote a blurb for a no. 1 album for once, sorry ahead of time for how that reads
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 22:05 (five years ago) link
Cool format. I found a few write-ups by ILM posters pretty quickly, LOL (nice work, folx)
― underqualified backing vocalist (morrisp), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 22:05 (five years ago) link
j/k i was very proud to contribute i've just also been a mess bc year-end writing is like scraping an empty metal barrel for hours at a time xp
wow, nice job -- so easy to navigate
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 22:07 (five years ago) link
nice to see that Trouble album on a list.
― calzino, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 22:10 (five years ago) link
damn, can you unfuck the lists in the archive with that format
― 5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 22:10 (five years ago) link
i'm glad caution ended up so high, i really regretted not having it on my ballot
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 22:12 (five years ago) link
That Malkmus album... oy. Of the albums I seriously engaged with this year (admittedly, not a huge number), that's gotta be at/near the bottom.
― underqualified backing vocalist (morrisp), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 22:14 (five years ago) link
mariah album was something i thought was pretty nice & then didn't stop listening to for like 3 straight weeks
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 12 December 2018 22:32 (five years ago) link
right?????
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 22:33 (five years ago) link
same
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 22:34 (five years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, December 12, 2018 4:32 PM (eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
It sneaks up on you.
― Groove(box) Denied (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 22:42 (five years ago) link
wrote about robyn/sophie/janelle, super happy to do so
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 22:43 (five years ago) link
[Re: Mariah, actually bought a copy at Target a few days ago, it's taken up residence in the car CD player. (I wish I'd voted for it.)]
Determined to finally listen to that Robyn album sometime before the end of the year
― Groove(box) Denied (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 22:44 (five years ago) link
Learned to like the Carey album on a road trip Thanksgiving weekend.
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 22:46 (five years ago) link
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine)
loved your Robyn blurb
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 22:47 (five years ago) link
Something I’ve been wondering about before and was reminded of again while going over that Aquarium Drunkard list: Why is that these music loving people only bother with African pop music when it’s a) very old or b) made in the diaspora? I mean, you know you’re gonna lap that stuff up when the curated comps come out in 2050, so why not just engage with it now and enjoy it while it’s hot?!
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 23:00 (five years ago) link
xp — thanks!
the sophie album was the one I was most surprised by, particularly the middle which is a huge departure from her old stuff
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 23:01 (five years ago) link
breastcrawl i’m nodding but also kind of guilty of that myself
― my name is leee john, for we are many (NickB), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 23:07 (five years ago) link
(also sorry for blowing my quota of kate bush references, in my defense robyn directly cited a specific album as an influence, and if “is it cold in the water” doesn’t earn the comparison nothing does)
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 23:08 (five years ago) link
I mean, you know you’re gonna lap that stuff up when the curated comps come out in 2050, so why not just engage with it now and enjoy it while it’s hot?!
this is otm and not only for african music.
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 23:09 (five years ago) link
Has Nicki Minaj turned up on any lists yet?
― Groove(box) Denied (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 23:10 (five years ago) link
Whoa, I hadn't heard of this "Ohmme" duo... this is great
― underqualified backing vocalist (morrisp), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 23:15 (five years ago) link