What Is Rockism ?

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Condescension toward bros as a class is absurd. I’m trading in my outdated late-00’s hipster costume for some sperrys in solidarity.

Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 19:15 (seven years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MT3NVv7IZ8Q

5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 20:07 (seven years ago)

the Nautica wearer, the Karl Kani bear
Mr. Get Jig the fly bear
Notorious, ready to die bear

No Smockin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 20:09 (seven years ago)

won't someone please think of the bros

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 20:22 (seven years ago)

I’m doing it. Without irony. While comfy in nautica.

Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 20:24 (seven years ago)

https://i.ibb.co/dMskzqk/FB-IMG-1544656107811.jpg

Ra's al Gore (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 23:18 (seven years ago)

Brogrammer was robbed

Spirit of the Voice of the Beehive (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 23:25 (seven years ago)

LOL IRL

underqualified backing vocalist (morrisp), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 23:28 (seven years ago)

Rivers: There was this one time in Japan that was really emotional for me because this is when I was first starting to figure all this stuff out about being really aggressive. I'd been in Japan for a week and every night there were ten or fifteen girls in my room and nothing happened because I wasn't confident enough to say "Let's have sex or get out of the room." So finally, at the end of my stay there I said, "Whoever wants to stay in the room has to take their clothes off and get on the bed."and most of them left but four of them stayed. It was a very difficult step for me to take but I hadto take it. It was the truth about what I wanted.

cool story bro

― Οὖτις, Wednesday, December 12, 2018 11:19 AM (three days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

um this is h0t as fuck lol. almost as good as some of mingus's stories

esby, Sunday, 16 December 2018 02:06 (seven years ago)

hm something tells me you didn’t make it to the end of his book. ffs that’s almost like saying “lol dude malcolm x was a badass dope dealer with an awesome conk, love those old stories !!”

budo jeru, Sunday, 16 December 2018 03:50 (seven years ago)

also mingus’s stories are way more depraved, interesting, and far darker and more insightful than anything this idiot has to say. are you high

budo jeru, Sunday, 16 December 2018 03:53 (seven years ago)

somehow weirdly I thought that was about Sam Rivers and was v surprised to hear he had that many groupies in Japan

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Sunday, 16 December 2018 03:59 (seven years ago)

lol

budo jeru, Sunday, 16 December 2018 04:11 (seven years ago)

Actually it was Joan Rivers.

Anne Frankenstein (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 16 December 2018 04:33 (seven years ago)

also mingus’s stories are way more depraved, interesting, and far darker and more insightful than anything this idiot has to say. are you high

― budo jeru, Saturday, December 15, 2018 8:53 PM (forty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i said 'almost'

esby, Sunday, 16 December 2018 04:39 (seven years ago)

I doubt Weezer does any roundhouse kicks to people in cowboy boots ala Dickie Betts.

earlnash, Sunday, 16 December 2018 05:02 (seven years ago)

um this is h0t as fuck lol. almost as good as some of mingus's stories

― esby, Saturday, December 15, 2018 8:06 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol...

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Sunday, 16 December 2018 06:36 (seven years ago)

looks like ilx has a new bad boy deej

Trϵϵship, Sunday, 16 December 2018 06:38 (seven years ago)

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61vr%2BT2ougL._SX355_.jpg

brimstead, Sunday, 16 December 2018 07:22 (seven years ago)

My fantasy would be a roomful of people leaving me alone, so I can sleep for 9 hours straight.

#dadjoke #happytodoit

underqualified backing vocalist (morrisp), Sunday, 16 December 2018 07:23 (seven years ago)

https://jezebel.com/the-united-states-of-bros-a-map-and-field-gide-1550563737

― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine)

this is good but "portland bro" actually lives in beaverton

errang (rushomancy), Sunday, 16 December 2018 07:57 (seven years ago)

10 years ago, I worked at a 7 night a week karaoke bar and there was a group of bro regulars (boat shoe and polo bros) who would come in and drink Bud Light and Jaeger and take turns night to night singing "Africa." No idea if it had permeated bro culture at that point or if it just had special meaning to them but they seemed to love it unironically.

louise ck (milo z), Sunday, 16 December 2018 20:45 (seven years ago)

Apparently "SNL" had a sketch about Weezer last night -- characters debating their greatest "era," etc.(?) Are they, like, "canonical" now?

underqualified backing vocalist (morrisp), Sunday, 16 December 2018 20:52 (seven years ago)

The sketch doesn’t really depend on that distiction

ebro the letter (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 16 December 2018 21:33 (seven years ago)

*distinction

ebro the letter (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 16 December 2018 21:33 (seven years ago)

Right, in theory the sketch could have applied equally to people talking about Seventeen Seconds vs. Disintegration, or Fables vs. Up.

But it wasn't, because "has Weezer gone soft / sold out / jumped the shark" or whatever is a comparatively current topic (indeed, ILX discussed it at length just this summer). Other mainstream white middle-ager bands' career arcs are not - or not as much - topics of current discussion.

Anne Frankenstein (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 17 December 2018 00:53 (seven years ago)

Tried to watch the SNL Weezer skit, but the uploader has not made this video available in my country. That's not fair, we're very concerned about rockism too.

clemenza, Monday, 17 December 2018 01:03 (seven years ago)

i was also unable to watch it in my country

esby, Monday, 17 December 2018 01:18 (seven years ago)

I just watched it, and I’m not even sure I really get what the “joke” is supposed to be... just the randomness of a big dinner-party argument over Weezer?

underqualified backing vocalist (morrisp), Monday, 17 December 2018 07:25 (seven years ago)

yea. i thought it was p funny that they'd get that niche (lmao arguing about 'Pacific Daydream' and 'Raditude')

flappy bird, Monday, 17 December 2018 17:55 (seven years ago)

I feel like this dude is really brimming w/personality: https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/snl-weezer-rivers-cuomo-768140/

underqualified backing vocalist (morrisp), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 20:33 (seven years ago)

It does seem like the sketch captured something about the way some fans feel about Weezer — this intense loyalty to specific parts of the catalog. Why do you think that is?

Well, let me ask you, as an outsider, do other artists have this kind of intensely opinionated and passionate and conflicted following?

I don’t think so. I don’t hear people having the same kind of debates about, say, Pearl Jam or Radiohead that they do about your band.

I wish I knew why. It’s almost worthy of an academic study to figure out what’s going on in the psyche of these few hundred thousand people. I feel like it must come back to something in the four of us, or something in me. There’s some character flaw or some quirk of my personality that is permitting a vacuum, where a normal band leader would be projecting some kind of stronger leadership. Or maybe he’d just be a more consistent artist stylistically.

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omar little, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 20:57 (seven years ago)

I don’t think so. I don’t hear people having the same kind of debates about, say, Pearl Jam or Radiohead that they do about your band.

Radiohead and Pearl Jam didn't start to totally suck like Weezer

No Smockin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 21:10 (seven years ago)

nor have they always sucked like Weezer either

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 21:19 (seven years ago)

lol otm

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 21:26 (seven years ago)

actually wait I don't care about Radiohead or Pearl Jam either, but neither of those have been as actively offensive as Weezer

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 21:26 (seven years ago)

the lebowski fest of bands, total bacon

omar little, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 21:27 (seven years ago)

It's true, 50-75% of Radiohead's catalog wasn't seemingly ghost written by a bunch of middle schoolers.

Evan, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 21:28 (seven years ago)

50-75% of Radiohead's catalog isn't songs.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 21:39 (seven years ago)

Thank God, few things are as boring as bands that never stretch songs until they break.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 21:43 (seven years ago)

songs could be anything man, think about it

No Smockin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 21:44 (seven years ago)

I did and it broke me.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 21:45 (seven years ago)

Right. Not songs; they're cacophonous yet tranquil, experimental yet familiar, foreign yet womb-like, spacious yet visceral, textured yet vaporous, awakening yet dreamlike.

Evan, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 21:47 (seven years ago)

This thread has achieved escape velocity.

glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 21:50 (seven years ago)

somehow both as smooth as the gleaming facade of a sleek new coupe and as weathered as the prematurely aged face of a train hobo

omar little, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 21:52 (seven years ago)

ok lol

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 21:53 (seven years ago)

50-75% of Radiohead's catalog isn't songs.

― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, December 19, 2018 4:39 PM (fourteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

now that's what i call rockism (TM)

Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 21:54 (seven years ago)

or maybe poptimism

Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 22:04 (seven years ago)

Could it be that… they're one and the same? mindblown.gif

pomenitul, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 22:08 (seven years ago)


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