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"Not surprisingly, the title had no single explanation. It was either a play on their alter egos - Ranaldo, Gordon, Moore, and Shelly, respectively - or, as Moore told writer Alec Foege, it was inspired by the time Yoshimi P-We, the drummer of... the Boredoms, was in the company of Moore and Gordon and was approached by autograph-seeking kids. "No - no star!" she said, in broken English."

- David Browne, Goodbye 20th Century: A Biography of Sonic Youth, pp. 267-268

I'm still waiting to learn how "experimental jet set" is a play on words

That’s a great Yoshimi story

I think maybe there was a joke that SY had become the 'experimental jet set' after signing to DGC? I don't see a play on words either.

I guess because it's a combination of "experimental jet" and "jet set"?

^ that, yeah

The Kinks 1964-1971 > The Beatles

agree

Ramsey Lewis's 1970s albums are AT LEAST as good as Herbie Hancock's work from the same era, and in the latter half of the decade, they're better.

Yeah, I dove deep into Duke’s MPS catalog a couple of years ago; great stuff, sadly overlooked now.

he's great in Zappa's band too

Bad Bunny album is boring af

Maybe you were expecting J Balvin

Post a controversial music opinion: thoughtless music is worse than bad music.

The Kinks 1964-1971 > The Beatles

― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, December 15, 2018 5:47 PM (one week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i def agree with this

Tracks >>>>>>> Playlists > Albums

food >>>>> meals

ALL ALBUMS, ALL THE TIME.

A man after my own heart.

I just have no time for albums in my life now. 3 or 5 minutes can get my complete attention. Why do I then need to hear another 11 tracks from the same artist, of which at least half will be filler? I still love many LPs, but just feel like I've had my fill of them, that is until the theoretical day I get an hour to sit and listen undisturbed, which may never come.

I know you are a good person but that sounds like violence to me.

which at least half will be filler?

life is filler

it's about the notes they don't play

Take "If you are feeling sinister".

...please!

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I just have no time for albums in my life now. 3 or 5 minutes can get my complete attention. Why do I then need to hear another 11 tracks from the same artist, of which at least half will be filler?

I can understand this POV from someone who only listens to pop music, but it doesn't apply to the genres I listen to at all.

'I just have no time for full compositions in my life now. 3 or 5 minutes can get my complete attention. Why do I need to hear another 11 movements from the same composer, of which at least half will be filler?'

I chose to read that post as a surreptitious allusion to György Kurtág's 12 Microludes for string quartet.

Funnily enough, I was listening to a version of Morton Feldman's For Bunita Marcus earlier today that was split into 22 tracks, instead of being a single 75-minute piece. I was idly wondering whether it had been optimized for playlists or something nonsensical like that.

Marc-André Hamelin's record is split into 36 tracks, one for each page. Pourquoi pas?

*recording

This is a bit of a tangent, but having just stumbled on Norman Lebrecht's review of said recording, I am consistently amazed at how insufferable and frankly useless his opinions can be. For instance, quotes such as 'Contemporary composers are not, on the whole, the most considerate members of the human species' would fit snugly in the rolling worst music writing thread.

Music’s fine, I guess. Not great. My imo.

I don't know if I really even believe this but what the hell:

EPs >>>>> albums

Glad to have provided an apparently genuinely controversial music opinion.

But this is funny

grawlix (unperson) at 9:07 26 Dec 18
I just have no time for albums in my life now. 3 or 5 minutes can get my complete attention. Why do I then need to hear another 11 tracks from the same artist, of which at least half will be filler?
I can understand this POV from someone who only listens to pop music, but it doesn't apply to the genres I listen to at all.

If you were listening to popular music of 1909-1921, I expect that much of it wasn't released in album form in the first place?

Very little of it, and none originally on LPs of course.

(Obv, if you mean that you were listening to Ives and Stravinsky, they were mostly not releasing albums either but listening in 3-5m chunks might not always make the most sense.) xp

As it's original recordings only, the only music of that sort I hear is heavily mediated by the limitations of recording media and studios at the time, which doesn't mean there's none, but it's not in the form anyone would expect to hear it now.

György Kurtág's 12 Microludes for string quartet.

― pomenitul, Wednesday, December 26, 2018 3:20 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

somebody reads the new yorker

I always enjoy remembering that an "album" used to be a bound group of sleeves housing multiple 78s
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Lol did Alex Ross recently publish a piece on Kurtág's Fin de partie or something? Nah, I'm gonna play my hipster card and say that I've been into Kurtág since the early 2000s when I first heard the Keller Quartet's ECM disc of his works for string instruments.

xp

i was mostly jk but yeah ross wrote about his new (and first) opera, which uses text from beckett's "endgame" ... which of course reminded me that i've been enjoying kurtág since, well, fine, i actually just learned about him two days ago. joke's on me :)

also yes that album shit is what i came to post about in the first place. i'm so happy CDs exist for classical music. imagine living a million hours from the nearest symphony orchestra and having to settle for the 36 x 10" 78rpm box set of, say, some brahms piece or whatever

xp

his new (and first) opera, which uses text from beckett's "endgame"

...which is called, yeah, "fin de partie"

boy do i feel dumb

I'm just happy people are talking about Kurtág. :)

And yeah, I wouldn't like classical music nearly as much if I could only attend local concerts. Because they're expensive and because their range tends to be fairly limited. We really are blessed to have access to all this stuff, and so readily. Back in the 19th century, Liszt's piano transcriptions (of Beethoven's symphonies, for instance) supposedly served a pragmatic purpose in addition to their aesthetic value, although I can't imagine many people were able to perform them given how fiendishly difficult they are! I guess there must have been cases where only a piano virtuoso was available and not a full symphony orchestra…

Tracks >>>>>>> Playlists > Albums

― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, December 26, 2018 12:30 PM (seven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

for certain genres--electronic music, rap, pop--totally agree. I'm a huge house / techno fan, but the (admittedly self-imposed) pressure to listen to an entire house or techno album is the pits

rock and jazz, eh, not so sure

playlists are the worst

my playlists are the shit

dx7 electric piano sound is good

the mediums for techno and house is the 12" and the dj set, of course albums are going to be potty