Rolling Stones: Classic or Dud

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I will say, there have been long stretches of time when I have absolutely loved the stones, and other times when I have been more ambivalent, but none of the shows I saw were remotely memorable.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 10 December 2018 22:58 (seven years ago)

Stones and Company featuring John Mayer

calstars, Monday, 10 December 2018 22:59 (seven years ago)

I guess with the Stones, for me, much of the appeal is in the playing, and, much as I appreciate Satisfaction and other hits, I really only love the playing on Beggars Banquet, Let it Bleed, Sticky Fingers and Exile on Main Street, and when I saw them a few years back that's not exactly how they were playing

which is to say while they have good songs I think the magic's in the playing, and while the songs remain the same the playing doesn't (although they were not bad, just not magical)

niels, Monday, 10 December 2018 23:06 (seven years ago)

I heard "Start Me Up" blasting from a car the other day. That is one hot hot performance

brimstead, Monday, 10 December 2018 23:17 (seven years ago)

yeah Beast of Burden rules too, guess I came off a bit too exclusive

niels, Monday, 10 December 2018 23:18 (seven years ago)

Haven't they been good-not-great live for almost forty years? I don't remember glowing reviews of the Steel Wheels and '81 tours.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 December 2018 23:33 (seven years ago)

there have been hopeful glimmers of some sort of return to form, but yeah, by and large they have been pretty much by the numbers since the 80s.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 10 December 2018 23:44 (seven years ago)

https://variety.com/2018/music/news/how-the-rolling-stones-shes-a-rainbow-got-a-seven-figure-synch-renaissance-1203092132/

underqualified backing vocalist (morrisp), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 16:58 (seven years ago)

wow that variety article makes me want to die

No Smockin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 17:04 (seven years ago)

it reads like an abkco press release ffs

kinda horrifying to think that boomer classics not only never faded away after release but now we get to live through yet another revival as the barely-animated corpses who wrote those classics squeeze some more cash out of them for their 50th anniversaries

fans annoyed as emily atack screams over nick knowles' kumquat (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 17:10 (seven years ago)

hey no one's buying Mick Jagger solo albums at Best Buy anymore

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 17:11 (seven years ago)

hey no one's buying Mick Jagger solo albums at Best Buy anymore

Fixed

Infidels, Like Dylan In The Eighties (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 17:17 (seven years ago)

Fwiw, this isn't even the first time "She's A Rainbow" has been used in ads. Apple licensed it to help launch the iMac, which was where I first heard the song.

Infidels, Like Dylan In The Eighties (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 17:19 (seven years ago)

Yeah, I was gonna say I remembered it on some advert at the back end of the '90s/beginning of the '00s, but couldn't remember what it was for. Also recall 'You Can't Always Get What You Want' on another ad around the same time.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 17:25 (seven years ago)

i would like to cosign ums ie that article makes me want to die also

u_u

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 17:43 (seven years ago)

in other news, happy birthday keef

http://i.imgur.com/ZqLDJji.jpg

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 17:52 (seven years ago)

what the fuck is "the synch community"

L'assie (Euler), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 17:55 (seven years ago)

wow that variety article makes me want to die

― No Smockin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown)

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 17:57 (seven years ago)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synchronization_rights

omar little, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 17:57 (seven years ago)

GREAT keef pic!

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 17:57 (seven years ago)

what the fuck is "the synch community"

it's what happens when corporations eat a word that used to mean something

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 17:59 (seven years ago)

I thought it might be some kind of amateur thing, calling it a "community", but I guess she just means ad companies lol

L'assie (Euler), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 18:00 (seven years ago)

Ok this might be a hot take and I like the Stones but...have they ever been great live? Like maybe in the Jones era in the 60s? Whenever I dip into even peak-era live stuff I am always disappointed

chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 18:10 (seven years ago)

Get thee to the Marquee Club!!
Also the live in Brussels show
and there’s another one I am forgetting

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 18:13 (seven years ago)

idk what is happening here (but i like it like it yes i do) (sorry)

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/09/27/19/2CC276D400000578-0-image-a-65_1443377434228.jpg

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 18:15 (seven years ago)

xpost
The 71 Marquee gig? I feel like I listened to that and it didn't do anything for me

chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 18:16 (seven years ago)

The Ladies & Gents set is good, as is the Some Girls '78 set.

Infidels, Like Dylan In The Eighties (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 18:20 (seven years ago)

xpost huh. welp

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 18:21 (seven years ago)

Some Girls 78! Yes. Love that.

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 18:21 (seven years ago)

The thing is, live Stones rarely have the transcendent quality live like, say, The Who had for so long.

Infidels, Like Dylan In The Eighties (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 18:22 (seven years ago)

that is very true. I think the Stones def were way better in the studio than they ever were live. Or at least the studio showed off their arrangements a lot better.

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 18:25 (seven years ago)

if that 1978 set is the small club gig I'm thinking of, it's fantastic

sleeve, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 18:28 (seven years ago)

The thing is, live Stones rarely have the transcendent quality live like, say, The Who had for so long.

― Infidels, Like Dylan In The Eighties (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, December 18, 2018 6:22 PM (eleven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah, The Who were four individuals that always used to somehow coalesce into one unstoppable entity such was the degree to which they could somehow read each others minds musically.

With The Stones, they were always sloppy - they either somehow managed to sloppily make it come together or make an awful hash of it, depending on what mood they were in.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 18:41 (seven years ago)

Also, The Who had a superior rhythm section - their bassist is one of the greatest rock bassists of all time and they had a drummer that didn't sound lumpen and could actually perform a good sounding drum fill.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 18:47 (seven years ago)

Ok this might be a hot take and I like the Stones but...have they ever been great live?

I was gonna bring this up so glad someone else did cuz I think the answer is actually no, they were never consistently great live, even during their (multiple) peak periods. they were *always* sloppy, occasionally really hitting their stride for great moments, but they were hardly a lean, live performing unit and there are *tons* of shitty performances of theirs widely available that demonstrate this. they were def better in the studio.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 18:54 (seven years ago)

Also, The Who had a superior rhythm section - their bassist is one of the greatest rock bassists of all time and they had a drummer that didn't sound lumpen and could actually perform a good sounding drum fill.

― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, December 18, 2018 6:47 PM (seventeen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

?? don't disagree about moon, but charlie watts was (is?) a great drummer, easily my favorite musician in the stones

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 19:07 (seven years ago)

I mean when I think about the Stones live I think about two things: one a dude getting killed at a concert & two them getting torched live so bad by the Who that their roadie buried the tape in his barn.

chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 19:09 (seven years ago)

It is just weird to me that a band I love doesn't have a live record from the era that I like more than the studio albums

chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 19:10 (seven years ago)

I think about the Stones live I think about two things

thought for sure one of these would be getting hilariously pwned by James Brown on the T.A.M.I. show

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 19:16 (seven years ago)

Ha, there is that too!

Oh and stealing Stephen Stills's idea of wearing a Jets jersey.

chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 19:18 (seven years ago)

Every time I contemplate seeing the present-day stones (one "last" chance to see the legends) I think of Buzz Osborne's description:

I could not be bothered to see them live now. I saw them in the early ’80s and it sounded like amplified motocross. They’d literally be halfway through a song before I could tell what it was. “Oh, it’s ‘Satisfaction.’” It was this horrendous cacophony, which is good on one side, but that’s not what they were trying to do.

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 19:48 (seven years ago)

The '89 and '94 tours were much better. Everything I've seen of the '81 tour is hopped up and cynical, i.e. "Let's hurry the fuck up, we got chicks and blow waiting."

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 20:01 (seven years ago)

Oh and stealing Stephen Stills's idea of wearing a Jets jersey.

― chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, December 18, 2018 1:18 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"I invented wearing football jerseys in rock n' roll" - Stephen Stills, the original Kanye

No Smockin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 22:08 (seven years ago)

"I invented wearing football jerseys in rock n' roll" - Stephen Stills, the original delusional hack

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 22:09 (seven years ago)

Stills seeing Jagger wearing that jersey and biting his knuckle in rage is beautiful image

chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 22:14 (seven years ago)

"I invented wearing football jerseys in rock n' roll" - Stephen Stills, the original delusional hack

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 22:09 (four minutes ago) Permalink

Tbf Stills also said that "Ohio" was a good song but needed another verse to really be considered a classic song like "For What It's Worth" which was written by Stephen Stills

chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 22:16 (seven years ago)

Jagger wore the pants too

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/80/5e/7c/805e7c06fab7adb1ff3914799b1df15f.jpg

Infidels, Like Dylan In The Eighties (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 22:17 (seven years ago)

Is that a Walter Payton jersey? Shouts to another fan of inhalants!

chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 22:18 (seven years ago)

LOL

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-mIl4WHHqtf4/TtUmqkn-BJI/AAAAAAAANY4/sXVC0vSexuY/s320/CelebRookie81Jagger.JPG

Infidels, Like Dylan In The Eighties (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 22:19 (seven years ago)


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