Post a controversial music opinion

and here i thought you had the final word with "i have explained myself enough."

Love you guys anyway

Also not a fan of "clutch empty milk bottles to their hearts" btw

I have a controversial music question...

I haven't listened, and I'm not qualified to really judge either way, but would Lil Peep be rated as highly right now if he hadn't died?

i thought he was super important before he died so... it wouldn't be the same but yeah

OK thanks. I really had no idea!

yeah if anything he hasn't gotten the due he deserves in death, he died too young for a true martyr bump

all the lil rappers are bad

(taking this back to real controversial content)

who was the first lil rapper anyway, lil bow wow?

kim!?

Lil Kim that is

idk Lil Bow Wow is '93 or so, isn't that before her?

wiki says his first album was 2000 and he was 13
unless he recorded before that?

Besides, he shed the 'lil' a couple of years later.

lil kim released hard core in 1996, when bow wow was...9
so i think she was first of the two but maybe there was another lil before kim that i am forgetting/not aware of

There was also Lil' Keke. But I agree with LL, I think Lil Kim was the first.

Lil' Rodney Cee from the Funky 4 + 1

Hmm maybe Bow Wow Wow was the reason for confusion! Ha

i knew there would be one before her i just am not familiar with who that is
thank you ilm

from lil bow wow's wiki

In 1993, he performed at a concert in Los Angeles, and was noticed by rapper Snoop Dogg, who subsequently gave him a stage name, "Lil' Bow Wow".[4]

The best album Mick Jones made was B.A.D’s ‘Megatop Phoenix’.

Lil' Rodney Cee from the Funky 4 + 1

oh shit that's right! good lookin out

hs is great so may have to retract my controversial music opinion

TS: Big Rappers vs. Lil Rappers

Soft Machine wasn't truly great until Robert Wyatt left the band

Gong wasn't truly great until Daevid Allen left the band

(I am OK with the idea that these are a coincidences, as I enjoy both Wyatt and Allen quite a bit. But I much prefer the albums without them)

There is something pitiable and maybe even tragic about people in their forties and fifties who are still obsessed with the Misfits and the Ramones

or shellac and autechre

Eh, people are attracted to different things. People could conceivably like the music even if the lyrics don't have significance for them in their forties and fifties.

I consider everyone on ilx pitiable and tragic

is that really a musical opinion

or a controversial one?

that too

The best album Mick Jones made was B.A.D’s ‘Megatop Phoenix’.

it's top 3 for sure

nothing per se bad abt being pitiable and/or tragic

or vain, erudite and stupid

I always wondered about that title. Does each word describe a specific band member? Bruce is definitely "erudite"

similar question (as long as I'm derailing): was "experimental, jet set, trash and no star" meant to describe the individual members of Sonic Youth? If so, I'd guess Lee, Kim, Thurston, Steve, respectively

p sure Thurston confirmed that explicitly in an interview (at least, that's my memory)

can't tell if you guys are joking but there's no comma after "experimental" and experimental jet set is a play on words

idgi

"Not surprisingly, the title had no single explanation. It was either a play on their alter egos - Ranaldo, Gordon, Moore, and Shelly, respectively - or, as Moore told writer Alec Foege, it was inspired by the time Yoshimi P-We, the drummer of... the Boredoms, was in the company of Moore and Gordon and was approached by autograph-seeking kids. "No - no star!" she said, in broken English."

- David Browne, Goodbye 20th Century: A Biography of Sonic Youth, pp. 267-268

I'm still waiting to learn how "experimental jet set" is a play on words

That’s a great Yoshimi story

I think maybe there was a joke that SY had become the 'experimental jet set' after signing to DGC? I don't see a play on words either.

I guess because it's a combination of "experimental jet" and "jet set"?

^ that, yeah

The Kinks 1964-1971 > The Beatles

agree

Ramsey Lewis's 1970s albums are AT LEAST as good as Herbie Hancock's work from the same era, and in the latter half of the decade, they're better.

Yeah, I dove deep into Duke’s MPS catalog a couple of years ago; great stuff, sadly overlooked now.