Was/Is Morrissey Racist?

Conversely, the NME probably hate black people more than they hate Morrissey.

One of Dirty Pretty Things is a black. FACE.

A number of today's most promising bands teamed up to form a super group in honour of Love Music Hate Racism.

Members of BABYSHAMBLES, REVEREND AND THE MAKERS, THE VIEW and THE NOISETTES and an ex ARCTIC MONKEY all joined forces to perform a live set at the carnival in London's Victoria Park.

According to NME magazine, the collective sand hits including HELINSKI's AMPERSOUND and THE VIEW's SAME JEANS, before closing the set with a rendition of BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN's hit DANCING IN THE DARK.

THAT'LL show the BNP who's boss.

As Tony Benn, the former Labour MP, took to the stage, Rain’s pal, a DJ called FX, asked: "Who’s that? A politician or something?"

HISTORY MAKING EVENT POWER TO THE PEOPLE ETC ETC

somebody's friend in not recognising Tony Benn film, shocka at 11...

Surely Tony Benn looks like someone's brother?

rain as in the korean guy?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2010/sep/03/morrissey-china-subspecies-racism

jeez morrissey

well that's settled then

what an asshole

bumped the wrong thread
chinese ppl are the most disgusting savages in all the world imo

Frankly, Mr Cankly

lol

"The similarity between China and the UK is that the population are not allowed to say what they like.

So what if he called the Chinese a subspecies? Is he not allowed to come to his own conclusions? Not allowed to speak what he thinks? Are we not allowed to either agree or disagree with him?

The scandal here is not that he said what he did, but that there is 'uproar' that he said what he did. Quite pathetic. The UK takes another small step down the road to doom. I wonder what we will not be allowed to say next."

when will these fucking shit-sucking cuntbirds stop coming out with this bullshit. How is Morrissey "not allowed" to say this? No-one is "not allowed" to disagree or agree with him. It's because we have an approximation of freedom of speech that we are allowed to discuss this argh

Sorry I know you all know this can't help it

Haha, I didn't realise you were quoting there, I thought you were posting your own opinions. I was like WHAT?!

Is

"It isn't the Greeks, it's the Chinese he's after."
"I'm not after the Chinese!"
"I don't care who he gets so long as I can have a go at the Greeks. They invented gayness!"

Moz will need to do this at his next concert imo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvLjuHGfUUw

Really smart to use the language of racism in your arguments for treating other beings with fairness and compassion. Top job, you fucking donut.

Something seemed to happen with him from the mid 90s til now.

yeah, in terms of public statements but also lyricism. i honestly wonder if he "gets" the relationship between songwriting and his persona anymore. i wonder if his *judgement* was better from 83-93, or if the times just suited him better, and he's now the awkward, blunt person he always was, but times have changed.

his androgynous/phranc/feminism ideas probably sounded right in the 80s. but not sure that he's ever known how to deal with other *larger* issue since immigration / perceived "foreign threat" issues since, or that he would've been able to in the 80s. Just out of his depth?

(i understand that gender / sexuality are potentially large, but they're expressed in terms of body...now he's dealing with "political" societal issues, which, arguably he doesn't have a great capacity to articulate - as a lyricist or "public figure."). Unformed thoughts.

I maintain that in addition to his blatant racism, the vast majority of his output has been garbage from day one.

Morrissey, a vegetarian and animal rights advocate who last year abandoned the stage at the Coachella festival in California because of the smell of cooking meat

this must be a really tough life

Nowhere near as good as The Cure.

I maintain that in addition to his blatant racism, the vast majority of his output has been garbage from day one.

― olivia tribble control (kkvgz), Friday, September 3, 2010 6:15 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

plus nowhere near as good as the cure

I maintain that in addition to his blatant racism, the vast majority of his output has been garbage from day one.

― olivia tribble control (kkvgz), Friday, September 3, 2010 6:15 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

― having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Saturday, 4 September 2010 02:38 (24 minutes ago) Bookmark

plus nowhere near as good as the cure

OK I'm a big Cure fan but you are all fucking nuts.

i'm not even a big cure fan, but morrissey is british seinfeld musician 2 me

irish blood, english heart

THERE IT PROVES IT HE HATES WHITE PPL

Slow news day in the UK.

s'ok there was a football match in the evening

additionally, oasis still exists. i suspect another Q cover in the making?

http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/628/jmst2.gif

I maintain that in addition to his blatant racism, the vast majority of his output has been garbage from day one.

― olivia tribble control (kkvgz), Saturday, 4 September 2010 02:15 (9 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

can get behind this entirely

I maintain that in addition to his blatant racism, the vast majority of his output has been garbage from day one.

― olivia tribble control (kkvgz), Saturday, 4 September 2010 02:15 (9 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yup

additionally, oasis still exists.

Not really the thread for it, but I periodically see Noel wandering about, in fact to the extent that he's started to recognise me (not in any head-nodding sort of way, but in a sort of glance of suspicious recognition - it must be hell being famous in some ways). Whenever I see him, he's just mooching about, wandering the streets with the comportment of a man who has absolutely nothing to do, never with anyone, never exuding any purpose, looking down side streets with equal uninterest, extensively studying shelves in the supermarket with a sort of desultory indifference, that sort of thing, a portrait of velleity, of volition in its lowest form.

Here's a case where being right all along is a total bummer. I really liked The Smiths, too.

the internet reacts

ps dudes, the cure suck

What is it about Twitter that makes everyone think they're Tim Vine?

briefly out-trended by brian sewell

My father had to deal with Morrissey. My grandfather had to deal with Morrissey. My great grandfather had to deal with Morrissey. My great great great great great great. When it's gonna stop!?

If you think this is racism, you should probably think about hanging yourself

Morrissey is a hero to some but he never meant shit to me, you see
Straight up racist that sucker was Simple and mellow

Yeah, mother fuck him and Elvis Costello

seem to remember reading about a fringe theory in china contending that the ancestors of han chinese became isolated from other populations by topography/ice age and evolved slightly different characteristics, which would make them a subspecies i guess? so maybe this trolling redeploys that idea but cuz of the context and his earlier racist trolling, ppl are assuming he understands subspecies as 'defective subgroup', and then he'll say nah i wasn't saying defective lol why are you getting so upset

such a hateful cunt and i dunno why he does it? just incredibly and pointlessly vicious and embittered

Subspecies = clearly, definable - not just racist - but fascist talk.

There are no subspecies of man. What a fucking prick.

such a hateful cunt and i dunno why he does it?

lol this reads like an alternate universe smiths lyric

You can even imagine the tune!

so I broke into the palace
with a sponge and a rusty spanner
she said "Eh, I know you, you're a racist cunt"
I said "I know, you should hear my take on China"

Subspecies = clearly, definable - not just racist - but fascist talk.

There are no subspecies of man. What a fucking prick.

― Duran (Doran), Saturday, 4 September 2010 14:50 (14 minutes ago)

see i'd guess he's too cynical to honestly believe in eugenics / wacky biological racism, but he'll deploy it insincerely because it's incredibly offensive

why does he feel the need to be so despised though? whether it's trolling or str8 fascism it's as loathesome as could be