Dave Matthews Band : Name Your Reasons Why They Are So Bad & Hated.

oh no

Blood through my veins for you
You alone have all of me

there are no innocent 'boat tourists' imo

first of all, they're covered in feces

Just Googled the lyrics to that "Rapunzel" song -- OMG

I had to stop halfway thru

(Where's the PMRC when u need them?)

always thought he was singing about bugles

https://www.seattlemet.com/articles/2018/11/20/the-sainthood-of-dave-matthews-has-been-indefinitely-postponed

https://entertainment.theonion.com/dave-matthews-band-apologizes-after-tour-bus-dumps-anot-1830712805

https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2003/11/10/rock-the-vote-this-week-i/

By Peter P.M. Buttigieg,
November 10, 2003
This week, I picked up a new album by Dave Matthews, prophet of the carefree joy of my high school years. But unlike the cheerful strains of late-nineties-Dave, the solo project Some Devil is a sober, even grim reflection of how much the world has changed in a few short years. The man who brought us the playful riffs of “Too Much” and “Everyday” is now promoting the album’s first single, “Gravedigger.” Matthews is not the only one undergoing a tonal shift; if you’ve paid attention to Radiohead this year, you know that they have grown not only darker, but more explicitly political. In titling their new project, for example, they replaced the cryptic inclinations that brought us previous efforts like or Kid A, and called this one Hail to the Thief.

Music is always regarded as an index of the times, so a glance at what’s changed in our short student lifetimes could tell us a thing or two. And indeed, there are some lessons in even a casual overview of what has happened to campus music trends just in the last few years.

...

Then all hell broke loose. Just as we were adjusting to the fact that our country could function even if the president didn’t completely know what he was doing, a team of Saudis with box cutters torpedoed our innocence. Right then, like our cell phones, our culture stopped working for a minute. What sense could the old Dave Matthews make when Dave Letterman was weeping on air?

an incoherence of daves

he would probably make a better prez than music writer

I would bet my house he owned at least one Dispatch album in college. Or downloaded one from Napster, is probably more like it.

the P.M. stands for "Patchouli Man"

if mayor pete wasn’t cancelled before, he sure is now

go on pete, you are forgiven

https://variety.com/2019/music/news/mayor-pete-buttigieg-phish-inauguration-1203193074/

Asked about his college days, he cited “a lot of Dave Matthews in my life back then, a fair amount of Phish kind of thing. But also again the classics. I thought I was gonna be Jimi Hendrix on the guitar.” The hosts then produced a Les Paul, on which he strummed a snippet of “Hey Joe.”

Ah yes, the les paul. Cassic jimi hendrix guitar.

https://i.imgur.com/JyD6WHE_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

RUNDMB

Y'know...it's one thing to stand at a remove of a couple decades and snicker at a vague recollection of DM and his B, but I've had a few of his songs pop up over the past week (in a general '90s playlist) and...yeah, this shit was real real bad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FqsQE5oRNE

The only DMB reappraisal I will fuck with is that his shit was so heinous that if we had one terminator to send back and the question is do we send it back for DMB or Trump I'm going to need five minutes to think about it.

BREAKING: Amazon's new CEO's favorite band is DMB https://t.co/fPqhxlEatt pic.twitter.com/mo9KLboVIO

— Caroline O'Donovan (@ceodonovan) February 2, 2021

guillotine

'Jassy Thang' a believable DMB song title

https://preview.redd.it/ixufs6a7e5g71.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=f88d0cb69098bc0a9751617a7057b3260ef7133e

speaking of 800 lbs of shit, i have contemplated reviving this thread to talk about how before these crowded streets is a good record and the lillywhite sessions is an excellent one

Sure, Jan.

every(?) jam band has exactly two good records

grateful dead: u know
phish: billy breathes, story of the ghost
dmb: before these crowded streets, lillywhite sessions (counts even tho it was shelved)

I do kind of like that theory. Like, if you just keep playing and recording eventually you're going to do something good, like monkeys with white baseball caps sitting at type writers.

By the way, the other day, yesterday, and saw a young couple walking down the street holding hands. She was head to toe goth, with black fishnets and a black hat obscuring her face. He was just a preppy dude in jeans and a DMB t-shirt. I assume they were in love.

my boyfriend is not "preppy," he was a crust punk for like five years ok

then he got sober, embraced his inherited wealth, and found dave

Don't forget about Rift, Brad!

Also, I had never seen the location of the poo dumping before. I don't know why, but I had always imagined it from a more significant elevation. Like, "oh, the boats look like tiny little dots down there - we just didn't see them." Maybe at the edge of a cliff. Obviously not taking into account Chicago's geography. Nope, that was just right on their heads. Wow!

I'll plug Ryley Walker's cover of the Lillywhite album, it's really good even if you hate Dave.

Before These Crowded Streets is darker-edged than most of his stuff, I like "Don't Drink the Water", which has his attempt at death growls

Death Matthews Band would be kinda cool

the alanis morissette feature on "spoon" is my favorite singing she's ever done

in fact most of the guests on that record add a lot to it, cf. kronos quartet on "the stone," his best song

i will say i dislike the goofier musical interludes on the album but it's a tapestry man

So Brad did hear the Ryler Walker album jon mentioned?

did you*

yes i thought it was really good!

every(?) jam band has exactly two good records

grateful dead: u know
phish: billy breathes, story of the ghost
dmb: before these crowded streets, lillywhite sessions (counts even tho it was shelved)

IIRC Steve Lillywhite was the producer for Billy Breathes as well

I am billy breathing

my boyfriend is not "preppy," he was a crust punk for like five years ok

― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Sunday, August 8, 2021 11:54 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

then he got sober, embraced his inherited wealth, and found dave

― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Sunday, August 8, 2021 11:56 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

lmao, these posts have a deeply comforting familiarity to them.

the narrator from The Stone is singing to his inherited wealth

A Dave-head coworker posted the lyrics of “Don’t Drink the Water” (in honor of Indigenous Peoples’ Day), but the title just made me think of when they dumped poop in a river.

LOL

Weirdly enough, I love "Under the Table and Dreaming" and "Crash". And I shall not be moved.

haha hard not to make that association.

I started listening to Crash the other night after reading that (pretty good, actually) Sunday Review at Pitchfork, and was shocked to know how much of that still lives in my head even though I hadn't listened to it in probably 20 years. That album was inescapable for me, given that I was a sophomore at a Big Ten school when it came out and 95% of the people I hung out with loved DMB. I went to quite a few shows while I was in school, mostly out of obligation to my friends and it being just "the thing we did", but completely quit listening to DMB pretty much the instant I graduated, not even intentionally, I just couldn't be bothered.

I didn't know they did a Sunday review for "Crash". Thank you for alerting me, and good on them.

Link is here for those who are curious https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/dave-matthews-band-crash/amp/