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Peak Serpico Springsteen

That's so funny; I just walked by a framed "Serpico" still (here at work) and made the same connection.

https://i.imgur.com/xNFHnHZ.jpg

What bands are famous for playing long shows?

The Cure's standard show length is 3 hours

(I saw TMBG the other week play 2 hours 50, but including an intermission; more extended stage raps due to jetlag than extended jams.)

I forgot that i had seen the cure before you mentioned that

If 3h is long, I think that's standard for Rush too? At least it was in the Vapour Trails era.

Its kind of standard these days for bands that don't tour with opening acts.

Legacy bands with deep cuts, for sure.

Guns 'N Roses plays for 3 1/2 to 4 hours these days.

A million x-posts

Pretty sure both of the Rush concerts I saw were in the three-hour range. Saw the Cure once too, Bloodflowers era, but left before the end.

Leonard Cohen played 2 1/2 hours when we saw him which isn't as long but for a guy who was 75 or 76 at the time it's pretty impressive.

So I guess Guns n Roses is the best band

it’s hard to hold a candle in the cold november rain

Hero

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/arts-post/post/worlds-longest-concert-will-last-639-years/2011/11/21/gIQAWrdXiN_blog.html?utm_term=.00d699b59333

that’s not a “concert”

Shhhh!

i don’t get Durutti Column

just sounds like guy noodling on reverby guitar

then you get it

i really like the durutti column but when i saw him live it was bad

oh yeah, i have a great challop: my bloody valentine first reunion tour sucked ass, they were the sloppiest, most garbage band I've ever seen

all the songs pretty much have leads that they were playing from tape (or whatever) and they frequently got so out of time with the prerecorded music that they were full bars or so out of time with it

My challop: that kind of rhythmic freedom is exactly what their music needs.

Not controversial: Durutti have had a lot of mediocre albums.

The Martin Hannett produced The Return of the Durutti Column (1980) and Vini Reilly (1989) are all-time greats in the pantheon of modern instrumental "rock", but neither reach the heights of the "Lips that Would Kiss" tribute to Ian Curtis, and I haven't felt compelled to relisten to the intervening or later albums.

Clarification: Hannett had no part in Vini Reilly, but this album is the one where Reilly discovered samplers, and there's some lovely vocal contributions/expropriations.

Music For Airports is boring. I like Eno, I like ambient music (not a huge fan though) but I don't really like this

tbf Eno wasn't trying to be exciting there

Not very controversial.

Piano Magic were one of the greatest bands of the nineties/noughties.

there are exactly three Spice Girls songs ever worth hearing again and the rest are utter rubbish

Wannabe, 2 Become 1, Goodbye(?)

You misspelled "Stop."

PEOPLE OF THE WORLD
EVERY BOY AND EVERY GIRL

Viva Forever!

Oh yeah, “Stop” is good too

DON'T WANNA KNOOOW ABOUT THAT LOVE THANG!

Wannabe, Say You'll Be There and 2 Become 1

a much lower strike rate than All Saints or even Eternal tbh

Those tracks are still great, but c'mon... 'Love Thing', 'Stop', 'Too Much', 'Viva Forever' ...

"Stop" is just a really boring pastiche and "Too Much" and "Viva Forever" are just really sludgy, inert songs that don't play to their strengths as a group or as individual singers. I've never knowingly heard "Love Thing" mind you

and importantly, it isn't just that those not-good songs are simply not good: ones like "Spice Up Your Life" and "Mama" are actively bad

spice up your life is actively good tho

importantly

it's not really though - where those early singles were like real situations of friendship, intimacy, trust, etc, "Spice Up Your Life" sounds like a hard sell for a branding project, albeit one where a line like "yellow man in Timbuktu" seems to have been overlooked

'Spice Up Your Life' was written and recorded in an afternoon, and is all the better for it. Have a look at 'Recording' here, it's a bizarre story

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spice_Up_Your_Life

"Chicago Sun-Times critic Jim DeRogatis was unimpressed with the lyrics, yet when comparing it to Aqua's "Barbie Girl", he found that its "unifying sentiment is more admirable"

:D

spice up your life bangs

meant bangs as a verb, but feel free to take the whole sentence as a command

It sounds like you’re sarcastically admonishing a long-dead rock critic to be more “poppist”

After being in love with rap for my whole life, 2018 has been the first time that I've felt like it has a very bad year for rap music. Dumb beefs, pointless deaths, lazy + phoned-in songs, bloated albums, and infuriating politics have become the centre of all discussions, with genuinely interesting and exciting music seeming to disappear completely. This is also a call for me to be proved wrong, please, if you do think there have been genuinely great things about in rap in 2018.