Awesome Audiophile Snake Oil

The ELACs are really nice, the bookshelf model (B6.2) for $250 off Amazon is pretty reasonable.

As for using old receivers with new speakers, i've noticed that many new speakers are rated at 6 ohms impedance or even 4 whereas my old Marantz amp is designed for 8 ohm speakers. Is this a problem?

that's what I was wondering, too. the amplifier in my receiver is rated at: 100 Watt - 8 Ohm - 20000 Hz - THD 0.09%

and most of the speakers I've checked out are rated at 6 ohms

this is all kind of mysterious to me, to be honest, and i don't have the time or energy to do a deep audiophile dive on what it all means. should i find speakers rated for 8 ohms or just deal w/ the mismatch?

ok, i looked thru my receiver's manual, and it has this:

https://ptpimg.me/5s3x3u.png

i assume this is referring not to "individual speakers A and B" but to "speaker _system_ A and/or B"

so i would guess that if i get two speakers rated at 6 ohms, I could set the speaker impedance selector to the left position (which is more speakers rated 4 or 6 ohms) and be fine...?

er, which is *for speakers rated 4 or 6 ohms

got a brand consultant to design a sick visual identity

Isn't a crucial part of the snake-oil aesthetic the complete absence of sick visual identity? You don't buy Shakti Stones because they look cool or they're marketed well, you buy them because they REALLY WORK.

xxxxxxp I have Elacs, great for the price.

hmm good point, that's even easier. The Archie McPhee store has loads of like medical/scientific surplus bottles and I can just set up a website with a terrible shopping cart interface and fill the bottles with…I dunno, expired moisturizer?

honestly you could just put in WD40 and sell it as something to slather on your speaker/component connections and it wouldn't do any harm

perfect

hello I only lurk on this thread normally but wanted to say that unless you have a tube/valve amp then minor deviations from states impedance shouldn’t cause a problem

yeah iirc speakers don't have constant impedance anyway

thanks! i found a few articles that suggested the same -- that most widely-purchased consumer amps and speakers are broadly compatible despite the ohm-age unless you really crank your speakers up to an incredibly high volume.

i also read that if you empty a can of wd40 into each speaker and shake the around, you really improve their reproduction of high-hats and cymbals.

ok not audiophile snake oil but those console record players things above were stuck in my head, then my gf walked into a vintage market thing last weekend and uhhhhh i walked out having bought this thing (and i didn't know what thread to brag/lament about it in?)

https://i.imgur.com/p94G4aB.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/m9OrqbO.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/GXgCfrL.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/3nRNFvN.jpg

holy moses

ooooh lord wow

Hey that owns though, what a singular piece of garbage

geniunely don't know if i am excited about this or mad about it, it arrives saturday

worst part is i gotta move the fake-fireplace-mantel thing we JUST got for free from friends who were moving and i have no idea where to put it. what kind of fucking monster has two fake mantels in their 2nd floor apartment

have always thought one of those type things would make a funny stand for a little dj setup at a party or whatever.

Perhaps you could stack them into a Mantleplex

Holy shit, amazing

will that is something v special

Can imagine Don Draper or Sterling Cooper holding court while Mancini spins on the turntable.

Do you have those pix all in one imgur gallery? Because I'd love to share it.

i'm about to!

does this work? https://imgur.com/a/b7AVXfI

That works. Such a stunner, thanks!

i'll get more pics when it's in my home! (that's it still at the store. arrives friday)

SEX BOMB SEX BOMB ITS A SEX BOMB

from a headphone review:

"OMG these are fun. I’ve never heard songs with such control and resolution. They seem to “pace” songs better than I’ve heard from any other headphone or IEM."

also the cover art is more beautiful, and the songs on each album are in a better sequence than with any other headphones

my wife didn’t leave me when I hear music this way

lol silby

haha a+

Just saw another FB ad for those ATX consoles wherein the comments someone shared that the company quoted them $6500 for a system.

At the heart of the master clock generator is a crystal oscillator, encased in in a temperature- controlled box, the “oven”, to maintain the best and stable performance under an ideal temperature condition for crystal oscillation. This oven-controlled crystal oscillator (OCXO, for short) generates an extremely accurate 10MHz clock signal which is within ±3 ppb of frequency temperature characteristics and within ±0.1 ppm of frequency precision.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MTP5PBZ/ref=sr_1_27?ie=UTF8&qid=1547581875&sr=8-27&keywords=teac+receiver

At the heart of the master clock generator is a crystal oscillator

oh no shit?

in the heart of the generator
there's a crystal oscillator
but there's never been one zanier than...
DUCKULA

what the fuck do you even plug a standalone clock generator into on your fuckin hifi, let alone need a $1500 box to keep your $0.50 crystal at a constant temperature

huh. not too often you see this kind of talk from a big namebrand thingy.

I don't know this brand b/c I don't actually know hifi shit at all but it's weird that they apparently sell a bunch of reasonably priced components and also a stupid $1,500 box

if you can, why not?

I really need to find a way to invest in the business of selling $4 of parts in a $9 box for $1,500 to credulous douchebags

I think those clocks are important for mastering, getting the CD to talk to the CPU in a manner that allows the whole enterprise to function -- I think they're mainly for mastering engineers

I could be wrong but I know timing stuff is part of that whole aspect of the process of getting a record from tape to WAV to release

predicating your product on rare sub-millisecond glitches being human perceptible is something, for sure

right, like, the stability of the random 10Mhz crystal that costs $0.37 when you buy at least a thousand I looked up on digikey is ±50ppm or something, so like…at worst you get 9,999,500 cycles in a given second instead of 10 million or something. That's 0.05% error I think.

I think a timing error at the mastering or production level would cost more than this machine, so (if that is in fact the use of this machine) if I were delivering files for production I'd err on the side of the too-accurate insurance policy

I think one of these also powered the Enterprise.

The CG-10M is a master clock generator that brings out the best performance from USB DACs, network players, CD players and any other kind of device that supports a 10MHz clock input.

this part of the description makes me think it's being marketed to consumers. the two products it mentions in the compatibility section appear to be desktop headphone amplifiers, not meant for production but listening

fwiw here's a technical article on the subject https://www.soundonsound.com/techniques/does-your-studio-need-digital-master-clock

looks like their conclusions are that even in production work, an external clock is still of dubious benefit

was about to post the same link lol

I want the analog master clock. It moves smoothly thru time instead of leaping from millisecond to millisecond. Much smoother — anyone with ears can hear the difference! Crisper highs, rounder lows, more articulate high mids, and the low mids just caress you.